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Old 07-24-2012, 02:34 PM   #15
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Hello Apex Chase,

I understand you like selling a particular brand, but Twice the gains..... Sorry but no intake system produces dbl the power. Anybody claiming double the power is just ridiculous.

For those that can read the Jannetty testing the AIRAID and the CAI both did very well. It really comes down to appearance, Fit & Finish, and the Warranty offered on the product.


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I like selling products that I know will impress my customer so that they come back to me for their next upgrade. My statement that the CAI system produces close to double the gains is spot on and reflects not only what I have seen in my own experience but also what the Jannetty tests you mentioned have demonstrated. Since you brought up his test specifically and I mentioned average HP and peak torque, lets look at those numbers.

Cold Air Inductions

average HP: 4.4 (w/ scoop: 13.8)
peak TQ: 10.4 (w/scoop: 13)

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average HP: 2.3
peak TQ: 5.9

Concerning appearance, fit & finish, and the warranty I could not agree more.
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Old 07-24-2012, 02:39 PM   #16
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I like selling products that I know will impress my customer so that they come back to me for their next upgrade. My statement that the CAI system produces close to double the gains is spot on and reflects not only what I have seen in my own experience but also what the Jannetty tests you mentioned have demonstrated. Since you brought up his test specifically and I mentioned average HP and peak torque, lets look at those numbers.

Cold Air Inductions

average HP: 4.4 (w/ scoop: 13.8)
peak TQ: 10.4 (w/scoop: 13)

Airaid

average HP: 2.3
peak TQ: 5.9

Concerning appearance, fit & finish, and the warranty I could not agree more.
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Old 07-24-2012, 02:47 PM   #17
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Old 07-24-2012, 02:54 PM   #18
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With scoop u have to relocate the washe bottle right
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Old 07-24-2012, 02:57 PM   #19
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With scoop u have to relocate the washe bottle right
I don't believe you "have" to, but it would be senseless not to since it opens up so much more volume in the air box and cuts down on the restriction of airflow. I am sure Chase from Apex will chime in on this one as he sells the items you are talking about.
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Old 07-24-2012, 03:01 PM   #20
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I installed my CAI w/ scoop & bottle relo kit last week = Great product, really woke up my car!
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Old 07-24-2012, 03:02 PM   #21
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With scoop u have to relocate the washe bottle right
It either has to be eliminated all together or relocated. Removing the stock washer tank is what opens up the channel to the bottom of the intake and the scoop directs the air into said channel.
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Old 07-24-2012, 03:21 PM   #22
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I went with the black powder coat CAI cold air with scoop, It was like the second coming of Christ!
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Old 07-24-2012, 03:22 PM   #23
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I was told by jannety racing of to bother with the Airaid to go with cai I have my car tuned. Y him now how much am I going to see mpg or hp from Airaid to cai
I can't understand what is being said here.

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"The AIRAID does not ingest underhood air as it is enclosed when you close the hood. The AIRAID also breathes through the OEM scoop for true cold air. We utilize the hood as the seal so we can use allot larger filter with allot more surface area, which equates to more airflow, better filtration, and longer service intervals."

I for one did not consider the oem scoop sufficient to draw unlimited air from the outside. Of course I have no data to back this up but I am comfortable that MY intake has 100% unrestricted airflow and all from the outside of the engine compartment. jmo.
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Concerning appearance, fit & finish, and the warranty I could not agree more.
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Old 07-24-2012, 03:24 PM   #24
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David,

I would have to agree with most of your post, obviously we are both going to have a different stance regarding our designs and effectiveness, which I can appreciate. As far as bashing others products, I completely agree, thats not the road we take either, we prefer to let our high quality products do the talking for us. My point to the OP was to take a look at the 2 intakes, and obviously a visual inspection to both systems would tell you the main differences. Both of our products are made with different materials, have a different design, and different features. Obviously one of the main things that seperates our product from the the majority of our competitors (hence my 90% comment) is the fact that we offer an enclosed and insulated airbox design, not considering the hood as an effective lid.

That being said, although I did find some obvious CAI Inc. fans comments above to be funny, I do believe that letting the products and consumers do the talking for a company is the way to go. And have nothing but a mutual for you and your company. Hopefully that clarifies a bit.
Thank you for the response
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Old 07-24-2012, 03:28 PM   #25
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Airaid is garbage...

Love the bluntness
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Old 07-24-2012, 03:36 PM   #26
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to David@Airraid heres something you can read. http://www.camaro5.com/forums/announcement.php?f=78. As a vendor you should be a little more professional.

kcox2010 get the cai or the vararam best know 2 intakes for the ss.
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Old 07-24-2012, 03:41 PM   #27
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What the difference between the two intake I have a great deal on a Airaid right know thanks
We offer and stock both intake systems. They are both great systems with vastly different designs. The Airaid utilizes a composite intake tube that was molded to flow air exactly the way they wanted it to, a composite air box that utilizes the factory scoop and a seal that seals to the top of the hood. The filter on the Airaid system is in my opinion 2nd to none and the components used in their kits are excellent. I've seen 11-14 RWHP gains consistently with the Airaid systems on our DynoJet 224xLC on an otherwise stock Camaro SS.



The CAI is a very nice looking system and performs excellent. It utilizes a mandrel bent aluminum tube that is ceramic coated or powder coated black, an air box with a lid which looks excellent and a washable reusable filter. The components in the CAI kit are nice and the installation is straight forward. I've seen gains of 12-15 RWHP with this system on our dyno on an otherwise stock Camaro SS.



The bottom line is at the end of the day these are both excellent systems and it comes down to what you're looking for in an intake system. I'd be happy to answer any questions you might have with real world hands on experience with both systems.

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Old 07-24-2012, 03:42 PM   #28
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to David@Airraid heres something you can read. http://www.camaro5.com/forums/announcement.php?f=78. As a vendor you should be a little more professional.

kcox2010 get the.
Well thanks for the heads up, but all I was doing was defending the product, and will continue to do so when blatant myths and misconceptions are told about the product.

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