July 2012 Camaro Sales and Production Figures (and vs. Mustang & Challenger)

[fbodfather]

Originally Posted by PistonsFan

Has a lot to do with the incentives.

$3,000 in incentives on the Mustangs vs $0 on the Camaro. That has a strong effect on sales. I'm surprised Ford has kept those incentives for so long this year. Sales will drop when the incentives go away. (once the 2012 inventory is depleted)

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...true - plus one needs to look at the volume of Mustangs being put into Fleet (mostly rental) - it's sizeable.

[cbass]

Originally Posted by fbodfather

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...true - plus one needs to look at the volume of Mustangs being put into Fleet (mostly rental) - it's sizeable.

It's not just incentives. MSRP mustang vs Camaro the mustang is cheaper for what you get. Invoice price compared to MSRP is also twice as much on the mustang giving dealers more room to negotiate. That makes the mustang $5-7K cheaper than a camaro before healthy incentives from the mustang. That's a good chunk of change if you are on a budget. Then you need to take into consideration that the mustang has been getting fantastic reviews from magazines.

I think the changes in the form of the coyote motor have really helped mustang sales even with a almost 10 year old design that is getting stale.

Hopefully the 1LE will perform well and get camaro sales up.

[Enator]

Or maybe because of good commercial

[z28racer]

Fords sales numbers came out two days ago and they are hurting real bad globaly.

[Kdogg]

Originally Posted by cbass

It's not just incentives. MSRP mustang vs Camaro the mustang is cheaper for what you get. Invoice price compared to MSRP is also twice as much on the mustang giving dealers more room to negotiate. That makes the mustang $5-7K cheaper than a camaro before healthy incentives from the mustang. That's a good chunk of change if you are on a budget. Then you need to take into consideration that the mustang has been getting fantastic reviews from magazines.

I think the changes in the form of the coyote motor have really helped mustang sales even with a almost 10 year old design that is getting stale.

Hopefully the 1LE will perform well and get camaro sales up.

Wow that's strange. I built both cars on line and the Stang was always more,rather it be V6 or V8 . Was also more for comparable cars on the ford and Chevy lots,at least here in central Ohio .

[Kdogg]

Originally Posted by babytiger

The Challenger is done after this year, correct? Or this that still rumors?

The Challenger will be replaced with the Baracuda name when it gets it's next redo in 14.

[1CamaroSS]

Interesting to see the real numbers. I have read on many threads that lots of people see more stangs around than Camaro's. I guess it depends on where you live. Thanks for sharing!

[cbass]

Originally Posted by Kdogg

Wow that's strange. I built both cars on line and the Stang was always more,rather it be V6 or V8 . Was also more for comparable cars on the ford and Chevy lots,at least here in central Ohio .

What did you build? 2013 mustang GT + track pack vs 2013 1SS + 1LE = $3500 less for the mustang MSRP and that's MSRP. The 2013 also had HID standard. On the camaro it's a $1350 option.

[rez333]

Around where I live, I see more Camaros and Challengers than the current gen Mustangs. It's funny how many Challengers I see given the sales numbers.

[lurker]

Originally Posted by PistonsFan

Has a lot to do with the incentives.

$3,000 in incentives on the Mustangs vs $0 on the Camaro. That has a strong effect on sales. I'm surprised Ford has kept those incentives for so long this year. Sales will drop when the incentives go away. (once the 2012 inventory is depleted)

I don't think it has that much to do with the incentives. They need to get rid if the '12s because they brought out the '13 so early. Be interesting to see the '12 vs '13 new sales. There's just enough change on the '13 that some folks (like me) would buy a new '12 instead because I don't like what they did. Same goes the other way... some folks like the '13 that much better that they'll forego the bigger reate on the '12. Rebates may make a difference to a handful of folks, but only the ones that are truly 'on the fence' and really don't care about styling. People that like the Mustang are gonna buy it... people that like the Camaro are gonna buy it. And of course, there are folks that won't even consider Ford, or won't consider Chevy.

[Fenderaddict2]

Originally Posted by CamaroKevin

It's probably just the new features on the 2013 Mustang: new grill, new tail lights(LED's) touchscreen, etc. 2013 Camaro should catch up. They're just beginning to show up @dealers.


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And the fact that the novelty of the Camaro is finally wearing off, and people are realizing it is here to stay. I am actually quite shocked by the number of '13 Mustangs I've been seeing on the road.

[JoansDriver]

Originally Posted by shaffe

Looks like the mustang is starting to slowly close the gap on YTD sales.

Thats a good thing for both, bc that means competition is tight and competition leads to better vehicles

Indeed. Although, I think all three (Challenger included) are fantastic cars. If we are to get "better" vehicles, I can't wait.



z/28 please...

[77rs]

I may have been seeing things this morning, but I could almost swear I saw a new challanger ragtop! Was I seeing things?? Or are they a new model?? (it was before my coffee)

[squat]

Originally Posted by 77rs

I may have been seeing things this morning, but I could almost swear I saw a new challanger ragtop! Was I seeing things?? Or are they a new model?? (it was before my coffee)

Any ragtop challenger you see is a result of the aftermarket. There are a few companies that do the conversion, so it's possible you did see one.