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prostreet67 · 06-01-2009, 04:48 PM

yup

Dakota Kid · 06-01-2009, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by arozar

Give me ONE example as to when the government has run anything successfully?

Amtrack, Social (in)Security, Medicare, the post office, DMV, Education??????

He can't, because there are no examples.

Black5thgen · 06-01-2009, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Dakota Kid

NO I am NOT fine with AIG, see, as an American, I am against bailouts. I don't give AIG a penny of my money.

"Jap" companies? You may be showing your bias...the Japanese have perfected the art of auto making, we could learn a lot from them.

Loan? So.....when do you think GM will "pay back" the monies they have been given? Honestly? Man, take the blinders off. Since when should poor performance and customer service be rewarded.

Are these the same masters of the auto making art that are subsidized by the Japanese government and are given handouts to be able to price their cars under ours on U.S. soil. Case in point, the Prius. All development costs were covered by the government. Then you want to bitch about what the U.S. government does with your tax dollars? Here's a little secret for you, once you pay your taxes it's no longer your money. The government can do what ever they choose to do with it. Did your taxes go up this year in order to give GM money? Didn't think so, quite bitching about where your tax dollars go. It's not your money anymore.

sabrescamaro · 06-01-2009, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Dakota Kid

NO I am NOT fine with AIG, see, as an American, I am against bailouts. I don't give AIG a penny of my money.

"Jap" companies? You may be showing your bias...the Japanese have perfected the art of auto making, we could learn a lot from them.

Loan? So.....when do you think GM will "pay back" the monies they have been given? Honestly? Man, take the blinders off. Since when should poor performance and customer service be rewarded.

Honestly, just admit it..you are a Chevy fanboy and that is what you like. Just admit it, and you may actually get an ounce of respect here.

So I'm not an American because I agree with the bailouts? Fine, that's what you think. I'm glad we have leaders that are smart enough to realize that the economy will go with these companies. Yup, you found my bias. I think that Jap cars are garbage. I've never driven one that I found worth buying, which is saying a lot with my dad owning two jap-car dealerships. I am not a "fanboy" and I don't have any blinders on. I know what product I like, and that happens to be great American cars. I also love European cars. I'd be just as pissed if Ford (who got billions of dollars a few years ago), Chrysler, Mercedes, BMW, Lotus, Porsche, Lambo, Bugatti, or anything that makes products that I like went out of business. This one just touches me closer. My dad's biggest dealership is an American car company, and my city's economy is largely based off of car manufacturing. It would be ridiculous if I were okay with that many Americans losing their jobs because I wouldn't buy a car -- even if my family wasn't in the business.
BTW, it sounds like I'm calling you dumb through a lot of this, and that is not at all intended. I talk in a demeaning way without realizing it a lot of the time. I just have a different opinion than you do, I don't judge your intelligence at all.

arozar · 06-01-2009, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Black5thgen

Are these the same masters of the auto making art that are subsidized by the Japanese government and are given handouts to be able to price their cars under ours on U.S. soil. Case in point, the Prius. All development costs were covered by the government. Then you want to bitch about what the U.S. government does with your tax dollars? Here's a little secret for you, once you pay your taxes it's no longer your money. The government can do what ever they choose to do with it. Did your taxes go up this year in order to give GM money? Didn't think so, quite bitching about where your tax dollars go. It's not your money anymore.

Just roll right over for them huh?? Gorge Washington would be proud of you!!

camaro5 · 06-01-2009, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Design1stCode2nd

I've been seeing a lot more of these kinds of stories. Doesn't mean it will happen but GM and the US economy is in a bad way as we all know. So if GM goes tits up in the next 12 months and you haven't bought a Camaro would you still?

Yes.

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sabrescamaro · 06-01-2009, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Black5thgen

Are these the same masters of the auto making art that are subsidized by the Japanese government and are given handouts to be able to price their cars under ours on U.S. soil. Case in point, the Prius. All development costs were covered by the government. Then you want to bitch about what the U.S. government does with your tax dollars? Here's a little secret for you, once you pay your taxes it's no longer your money. The government can do what ever they choose to do with it. Did your taxes go up this year in order to give GM money? Didn't think so, quite bitching about where your tax dollars go. It's not your money anymore.

Those are great points.

Black5thgen · 06-01-2009, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by arozar

Just roll right over for them huh?? Gorge Washington would be proud of you!!

If you want to start a revolution then I'm right behind you. If not and you don't agree with me then tell me a better county to reside in.

sabrescamaro · 06-01-2009, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Dakota Kid

He can't, because there are no examples.

Oh, yeah. So because I wasn't looking right when he posted it that means that I don't have a response? You're ridiculous. And GM is not government run. They gave ford money years ago -- when the economy was pretty fine --, and it looks pretty good now. Just because they were given money, does that mean it's run by the government? Didn't think so. And why would you hope that the bailout isn't successful? So that you can say "I told you so!" That's just stupid. There will be tons of people without jobs, but don't fret, you'll have been right about something (probably the first time for you).

Hylton · 06-01-2009, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Black5thgen

If not and you don't agree with me then tell me a better county to reside in.

lupo271 · 06-01-2009, 05:00 PM

yes yes yes yes

sabrescamaro · 06-01-2009, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Hylton

Sounds good to me, I already have a house and a condo up there

Black5thgen · 06-01-2009, 05:07 PM

I doon't knoo aboot that.

camaro5 · 06-01-2009, 05:11 PM

Eh?

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