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Location: Western Burbs of Chicago
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Wet/Snow traction
Hi all, new forum member from Chicago. I don't yet have a Camaro, doing my homework first.
I originally posted this message in the Midwest Regional forum, but thought I may get some great responses from this area of the country as well. I've tried doing some searches on the forum for this, but wasn't having much luck. I'm looking to go the 1LT automatic route (2013 MY). This would be my first RWD vehicle, having come only from FWD imports and currently an AWD Acadia. This next car would be my daily driver rain, snow, or shine. My commute is extremely short at only 5 stop and go miles and limited turns. My lack of RWD experience has me a bit hesitant, but I really want a sportier vehicle (hitting my mid-life crisis at 34! ), and want to stay with GM. So I'm looking for some insight/experiences from current owners driving on wet roads, and various depths of snow.
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Drives: 2017 NGM I4 1LT Coupe Join Date: May 2012
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Drives: Black 2010 2LT/RS Camaro Join Date: Apr 2010
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I'll agree with KD. I have an LT automatic with the 20" wheels and the sport tires. In the winter, I switch over to my Perrelli Scorpion Snow and Ice tires on my 18" wheels. I drive carefully but I have full confidence in my car. Last winter wasn't bad at all. The winter before, that was a different story. I pushed the car in an empty parking lot with about 1" or 2" of fresh fallen show, and I had a difficult time getting it to break free. The same was free on my home street on a different occasion.
On the other hand, during the really bad storms we had in 2010-2011, I didn't go anywhere...not that many people were driving on those days As for the rain...I'm driving a RWD car? Are you sure??? The car is amazing! Get good snow tires!
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Thanks KDimond and Molloni. Great responses from both of you and gives me much more confidence. Of course as KD noted, common sense would prevail in all situations. I'm pretty cautious in bad weather as it is.
The 1LT has 18" all season tires according to the Chevrolet website, but no mention of specific brand/model. I suppose if the weather is bad enough, I'll simply call in sick or take a vacation day and go sledding with the kids (or steal the wife's Traverse and leave her stranded for the day ).
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you know something...I have a FWD Grand Prix GXP..its nice in the snow but I tell you I have had Mustangs and Camaro's and all you need is a good set of snow tires and some sandbags in the trunk over the axles.
You will do fine. I personally like RWD in the snow better. I get what people talk about with FWD. But having steering and power in the same 2 wheels it is missing something I liked about having a RWD car in the snow. But get some snow tires and do not fear. Where I lived and grew up it was up hill both ways! lol..but really it was hilly and well, had no issues with my Camaro and Mustangs. Just gotta know how to drive and WHEN to not drive. |
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Drives: 2017 NGM I4 1LT Coupe Join Date: May 2012
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ohh there is..black ice..
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But that stuffs fun to drive on there's nothing like casual driving and then your rear end deciding it wants to go first. All kidding aside black ice effects every car the same AWD, FWD & RWD it's a hazard any person lives with in the snowy regions be lucky we don't live in western montana where they get fog that freezes your windshield in 5 secs like you get when it rains and then freezes here in the winter.
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best option IMO...buy a beater and save your very important investment from the troubles of winter....i take my car out in the winter on only TWO occasions...inspection (january) and if the road is salt free and dry
The Pirelli's that come stock on the 20'' option are HORRENDOUS in cold weather...remember these are SUMMER tires and are not designed for sub-50 degree weather...wet or dry...here are some issues: 1: They throw TPMS lights when below 40 degrees 2: The cold makes these tires rock hard...and traction suffers 3: Cold weather + Summer tires = quicker wear....i noticed a huge jump in wear last winter because I drove my car more due to the lack of snow 4: The wear on the Pirellis is bad anyways...i mean come on 27k on a set of tires from the factory? I have General GMAX AS01 All Seasons on my car now and I can tell you the summer performance matches if not exceeds the Pirellis in dry AND wet conditions. I also don't have to worry about driving in cold weather and if I get caught in a freak snowsquall. New England is notorious for winter surprises. Reminder IMO...cold weather and summer tires are not a combination you want to run with...not only will it cost your wallet...it could cost you your life or your cars life
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What everyone else said - WINTER TIRES.
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You might need some practice driving a rwd car in poor conditions. If you can ask a friend with a rwd car or truck and have at it in an empty, snowy parking lot. Its good practice to learn how to counter steer and power out of a fish tail.
I used to drive a rwd S10 with bald tires, no weight, and an open rear in the snow. I got stuck a couple times but I quickly learned from my mistakes. I will say that once I learned how to drive it properly, I rarely had an issue. Sent from my Nexus S 4G using Tapatalk 2
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IMGMT, I purchased two extra Heritage rims and installed Falkin 235/18's in the rear, I was amazed how well the Camaro handled in the snow, I left the BF Goodridge in the front. ( the reason I chose the falken was becausre the tread pattern was very simular to the BF Goodridge.
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