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b_williams_82 · 08-15-2012, 05:19 PM

Took my ZL1 to our local collision center (I DO NOT LIKE THIS DEALERSHIP, but they're local) to check out the spotting in my car..

I've tried washing, polishing compounds, bug and tar remover, and also the latest, clay bar!! The collision center tried a couple 3M products they had, and were also unsuccessful by hand!!

They are thinking wet sanding it to see if it's just in the first couple layers of clear...... Is this something I should do with a dealership I trust to do it right?? Or can just about any collision center with half a brain be able to wet sand and not mess up my paint?? The last time I had this go round with this dealer they messed up the whole paint job on a brand new pickup I had! Ended up having to go to arbitration, and ended up getting the whole truck reprinted!! The truck turned out great, however that particular GM collision center is 200 miles away!!

So should I just trust the dealer that's 200 miles away? Or give the local dealership a shot again, but this time with a $55K sports car rather than a $25K truck? Only advantage I see for the local dealership, is I could check on it daily!! Thanks for any help!

hognutz · 08-15-2012, 05:47 PM

I got most of mine out with maguires ulitimate compond not the polish but the compound. then I used the polish. in the right light I can still see some but it is night and day over when the car was deliverd. I rubbed it out by had though I am sure with a buffer it would have came right out but I am stupid and would most likely burn the paint somewhere. I am not sure if there is something a tad more agressive out there but if there it it would do the trick for sure.

I know you should not have to do it yourself but I don't trust people anymore so I will just take car of this myself.

Wetsanding will definatly do it but if you got so far you are SOL so make sure you take it somewhere that will really treat the car right. I am more a large hammer kind of person so I usually let my dad someone who knows what the word finness even means do that kind of stuff.

I am going to go back in the right light and try the compount with more elbow grease and see if I can get it all out.

9secs · 08-15-2012, 06:33 PM

Any half decent paint guy should be able to wet sand something like that NP. They should be at least average or above average to work at a dealer...but im sure theres plenty of exceptions.

ZL1LEGEND · 08-15-2012, 06:49 PM

Wet sand as a last resort. Can't imagine te spots won't come out. If wet sand hit it with 2000+ grit. Nothing less. GM historically has some thin clear. But I agree with the comment above. A decent paint guy should have no problem.

bmbbl be · 08-15-2012, 07:25 PM

i would pm dylan at adams ...send him some pics...he can tell you what to do

b_williams_82 · 08-15-2012, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by bmbbl be

i would pm dylan at adams ...send him some pics...he can tell you what to do

Thank you!! Just sent him a pm! We'll see what he comes back with!! Hope I can get it solved quickly!! I do know that I purchased a paint sealant that was put on the car two days before I picked it up, and the next day after I got it, we drove it the 1500+ miles back home!! So I'm wondering if whatever it was that they put on the clear coat and paint, maybe it wasn't cured enough to take on that kind of drive yet!!

OldScoolCamaro · 08-15-2012, 08:24 PM

...OK, go to Area 51, put out another SOS....and wait and see.....you never know....

b_williams_82 · 08-15-2012, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by OldScoolCamaro

...OK, go to Area 51, put out another SOS....and wait and see.....you never know....

Haha. Area 51 is too far for me to care to go to fix my issue. But thanks!

JT3640 · 08-16-2012, 08:50 PM

The clay bar didn't help me but I had a couple of swirl scratches that I put on the paint myself with the wrong compound and I used a product from maguires that worked great. I'm sure there is something that I will eventually find that will work its getting closer at least....

Zee-Ell-One · 08-16-2012, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by JT3640

The clay bar didn't help me but I had a couple of swirl scratches that I put on the paint myself with the wrong compound and I used a product from maguires that worked great. I'm sure there is something that I will eventually find that will work its getting closer at least....

What the hell are all the spots y'all are speaking of?

b_williams_82 · 08-17-2012, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Zee-Ell-One

What the hell are all the spots y'all are speaking of?

Here's mine and this is just the driver side. Looks the same on the passenger side!!

Taser Deployed · 08-17-2012, 01:24 AM

Is it just me or does it look like your paint is more faded towards the edge? There has to be something you can use to get those spots off before you go the route of wet sanding.

b_williams_82 · 08-17-2012, 08:48 AM

It's just the picture and the way it focused. I see what you're talking about though. I have a couple idea's I'm going to try myself before letting the dealership touch it!!

phantom · 08-17-2012, 04:07 PM

Where you all driving these cars, I've got 2100 miles on and not a spot. I haven't smoked the tires, could that be the issue?

08-15-2012, 05:19 PM	#1
b_williams_82 Drives: 2013 ZL1 #142 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: NM Posts: 759	What to do!! Took my ZL1 to our local collision center (I DO NOT LIKE THIS DEALERSHIP, but they're local) to check out the spotting in my car.. I've tried washing, polishing compounds, bug and tar remover, and also the latest, clay bar!! The collision center tried a couple 3M products they had, and were also unsuccessful by hand!! They are thinking wet sanding it to see if it's just in the first couple layers of clear...... Is this something I should do with a dealership I trust to do it right?? Or can just about any collision center with half a brain be able to wet sand and not mess up my paint?? The last time I had this go round with this dealer they messed up the whole paint job on a brand new pickup I had! Ended up having to go to arbitration, and ended up getting the whole truck reprinted!! The truck turned out great, however that particular GM collision center is 200 miles away!! So should I just trust the dealer that's 200 miles away? Or give the local dealership a shot again, but this time with a $55K sports car rather than a $25K truck? Only advantage I see for the local dealership, is I could check on it daily!! Thanks for any help! __________________ Order # QHQWJF Current Status: 4200 VIN 142 1100, (04/25/12): 2000, (05/21/12): 2500, (5/22/12): 3000, (5/22/12): 3100, (5/31/12): 3300, (5/31/12): 3400, (6/7/2012): 3800, (6/15/2012): 4000, (6/15/2012): 4104, (6/15/2012): 4106, (6/19/2012): 4150, (6/19/2012), 4200, (7/16/2012), 4300, (7/18/2012), 4B00, (6/15/2012) , 5000, (7/25/2012) 6000, Delivered to the customer (8/2/2012)

08-15-2012, 05:47 PM	#2
hognutz Drives: 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: tangent or Posts: 2,985	I got most of mine out with maguires ulitimate compond not the polish but the compound. then I used the polish. in the right light I can still see some but it is night and day over when the car was deliverd. I rubbed it out by had though I am sure with a buffer it would have came right out but I am stupid and would most likely burn the paint somewhere. I am not sure if there is something a tad more agressive out there but if there it it would do the trick for sure. I know you should not have to do it yourself but I don't trust people anymore so I will just take car of this myself. Wetsanding will definatly do it but if you got so far you are SOL so make sure you take it somewhere that will really treat the car right. I am more a large hammer kind of person so I usually let my dad someone who knows what the word finness even means do that kind of stuff. I am going to go back in the right light and try the compount with more elbow grease and see if I can get it all out. __________________ 2016 2SS 2020 super duty on 37's

08-15-2012, 08:24 PM	#7
OldScoolCamaro Drives: Camaro's, always have, always will. Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Home of the brave Posts: 4,851	...OK, go to Area 51, put out another SOS....and wait and see.....you never know.... __________________ In Scott We Trust...all others must show proof.

08-17-2012, 08:48 AM	#13
b_williams_82 Drives: 2013 ZL1 #142 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: NM Posts: 759	It's just the picture and the way it focused. I see what you're talking about though. I have a couple idea's I'm going to try myself before letting the dealership touch it!! __________________ Order # QHQWJF Current Status: 4200 VIN 142 1100, (04/25/12): 2000, (05/21/12): 2500, (5/22/12): 3000, (5/22/12): 3100, (5/31/12): 3300, (5/31/12): 3400, (6/7/2012): 3800, (6/15/2012): 4000, (6/15/2012): 4104, (6/15/2012): 4106, (6/19/2012): 4150, (6/19/2012), 4200, (7/16/2012), 4300, (7/18/2012), 4B00, (6/15/2012) , 5000, (7/25/2012) 6000, Delivered to the customer (8/2/2012)

08-15-2012, 06:33 PM	#3
9secs Drives: some Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: sc Posts: 30	Any half decent paint guy should be able to wet sand something like that NP. They should be at least average or above average to work at a dealer...but im sure theres plenty of exceptions.

08-15-2012, 06:49 PM	#4
ZL1LEGEND ZL1 - The Legend Returns! Drives: 2013 ZL1 Camaro Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 265	Wet sand as a last resort. Can't imagine te spots won't come out. If wet sand hit it with 2000+ grit. Nothing less. GM historically has some thin clear. But I agree with the comment above. A decent paint guy should have no problem.

08-15-2012, 07:25 PM	#5
bmbbl be Drives: 2010 CAMARO SS Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: ohio Posts: 1,360	i would pm dylan at adams ...send him some pics...he can tell you what to do

08-16-2012, 08:50 PM	#9
JT3640 Drives: 2012 ZL1, 2012 QX56 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Ontario Posts: 130	The clay bar didn't help me but I had a couple of swirl scratches that I put on the paint myself with the wrong compound and I used a product from maguires that worked great. I'm sure there is something that I will eventually find that will work its getting closer at least....

08-17-2012, 01:24 AM	#12
Taser Deployed Drives: 2012 Blk ZL1 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 938	Is it just me or does it look like your paint is more faded towards the edge? There has to be something you can use to get those spots off before you go the route of wet sanding.

08-17-2012, 04:07 PM	#14
phantom phantom Drives: 2012 ZL1 CRT 6M Join Date: May 2009 Location: depere, wi Posts: 143 View My Garage	Where you all driving these cars, I've got 2100 miles on and not a spot. I haven't smoked the tires, could that be the issue?