Introducing the JacFab CAI system! Dyno numbers, and videos inside.

[IndeedSS1]

Originally Posted by SUKXOST

okay okay.....I think I MEANT more of a traditional aftermarket coned filter for performance. Not saying this drop in version isnt getting good #'s, I'd just love to see a comparo

That would be pointless as it would just be another one of those type boxes.

Look a the dirt pattern on a filter from one of those Cone-N-the-Box intakes and you'll see where the majority of the air flows through.

[IndeedSS1]

Originally Posted by axis

Isn't the VR filter a oval shapped filter as well? I know they were at one time but they may have changed.

VR has had a flat filter for as long as I've been running one.

The oval filter is just a flat filter folded up to fit in a limited place

Seriously though, I'm not sure if you know how much time Jason has spent testing and tweaking to bring a different option that is a true performer, because he felt there had to be something better. On this subject I totally get where he is coming from.

[DRKS1D3]

Another great thread started by the OP in regards to intake performance. RacnJsn's R&D and thorough explanations of his hypotheses should make decisions a lot easier for most folks on which product they intend to utilize on their car. Great job, the product looks terrific!

[Jason@JacFab]

Originally Posted by axis

1) If you build the OEM location CAI RIGHT, it doesn't matter what shape your filter is, as long as it's free flowing. 2) I know the Halltech has a HUGE velocity stack encorporated onto the end of the pipe. Their filter has a spike that directs the air to the intake mouth but it's smoothed by the velocity stack as it enters the tube. I'm thinking the CAI brand has something similar but not as pronounced as the Halltech. The reason why the Camaro OTR's don't utilize a cone isn't because a flat panel is better, but because you can't physically fit one in the space provided. Halltech uses a oval filter in their Corvette intakes and they are known to work extremely well. 3) Isn't the VR filter a oval shapped filter as well? I know they were at one time but they may have changed.

3) I won't go into the "ram air affect" since it's a marketing gimmic and seems that any obstruction in the path of the air will nullify any affect you could possibly see.

4)I do like the look and construction of your intake though.

1) You are correct, but why not make one that's even more free flowing than the next? This is what I was trying to achieve, and according to my flow testing of the other intakes I have had, I have achieved that (so far).

2) Cone filters with the inverted cone (spike) end are superior in flow to a cone filter with just a flat closed off end from what we've found. We use S&B filters with the inverted cone end on a lot of the go-kart stuff we do here. They pick up power every time according to our DynoJet 168. Of the tube & cone style inakes I have flow tested, the Halltech flows the absolute best (of the tube & cone filters that I have tried, I have not tried them all, nor to I plan to. I just acquired the most popular brands for testing).

3) The OTR Camaro VR unit uses a flat filter.

4) Thank you.

Originally Posted by IndeedSS1

VR has had a flat filter for as long as I've been running one.

The oval filter is just a flat filter folded up to fit in a limited place

Seriously though, I'm not sure if you know how much time Jason has spent testing and tweaking to bring a different option that is a true performer, because he felt there had to be something better. On this subject I totally get where he is coming from.

Originally Posted by DRKS1D3

Another great thread started by the OP in regards to intake performance. RacnJsn's R&D and thorough explanations of his hypotheses should make decisions a lot easier for most folks on which product they intend to utilize on their car. Great job, the product looks terrific!

[Bo White]

I dont see an issue with the hood up on this test, both the OEM and JacFab intakes are enclosed anyway.

[Jason@JacFab]

Originally Posted by RyanBoles

If you need a test mule for a humid southern climate im down (in MS)! Just throwing the dog a bone!

We have confirmed intependent testing lined up to take place in Missouri (dyno), Texas (SOTP, and driving impressions confirmed, have not talked about dyno), and we will be sending one to Lethal Racing to dyno on one of their Night Fury cam installs to see what the intakes max. potential would be on a modded out cammed car.

Once that testing is completed, and we get the intakes back that have been discussed to come back, they may be sent out to different locations for further testing/impressions.

[hapisok]

Originally Posted by RacnJsn95

We have confirmed intependent testing lined up to take place in Missouri (dyno), Texas (SOTP, and driving impressions confirmed, have not talked about dyno), and we will be sending one to Lethal Racing to dyno on one of their Night Fury cam installs to see what the intakes max. potential would be on a modded out cammed car.

Once that testing is completed, and we get the intakes back that has been discussed to come back, they may be sent out to different locations for further testing/impressions.

thats what i call true independent testing. well done sir!

[pnyklr]

Good stuff for sure.

Any ball park on when this might be available to the general public?

-Funk

[Jason@JacFab]

Originally Posted by pnyklr

Good stuff for sure.

Any ball park on when this might be available to the general public?

-Funk

It's probably going to be at least a couple of months before they start going out the door slowly.

I'd like to wait until I get some of the independent testing dyno results, and impressions before I start sending them out the door, and put what I deem to be a final portential hp/tq gain to it... I'm very interested to see the dyno results from the Missouri testing with a scoop and the washer bottle relocated, and the Lethal Racing results.

The "Name That Intake!" contest will start shortly after I hear back from the testing, which I'll probably let run for 1-2 weeks, then start producing the production lids with the intake name on them. The winner of this contest will receive a *FREE* intake in their choice of black or silver powdercoat finish.

[RyanBoles]

We have confirmed intependent testing lined up to take place in Missouri (dyno), Texas (SOTP, and driving impressions confirmed, have not talked about dyno), and we will be sending one to Lethal Racing to dyno on one of their Night Fury cam installs to see what the intakes max. potential would be on a modded out cammed car.

Once that testing is completed, and we get the intakes back that have been discussed to come back, they may be sent out to different locations for further testing/impressions.

Theres no DYNO local to me but I will be gald to do a SOTP and general effectiveness, the weather here is always humid and so far since Isac came through its rained every other day just about, thanks again!

[ssmike]

Originally Posted by RacnJsn95

It's probably going to be at least a couple of months before they start going out the door slowly.

I'd like to wait until I get some of the independent testing dyno results, and impressions before I start sending them out the door, and put what I deem to be a final portential hp/tq gain to it... I'm very interested to see the dyno results from the Missouri testing with a scoop and the washer bottle relocated, and the Lethal Racing results.

The "Name That Intake!" contest will start shortly after I hear back from the testing, which I'll probably let run for 1-2 weeks, then start producing the production lids with the intake name on them. The winner of this contest will receive a *FREE* intake in their choice of black or silver powdercoat finish.

I"d like to start the contest early, how about "JacFab" cai. lol! I win already! I'll take a black one please sir!

[Jason@JacFab]

Originally Posted by IndeedSS1

I suggested "Put that cone up your...", but was told it was too wordy.

Yeah, I don't know about that one... Pretty tough to fit all that on the lid.

[IndeedSS1]

Originally Posted by RacnJsn95

Yeah, I don't know about that one... Pretty tough to fit all that on the lid.

[axis]

Originally Posted by Higgs Boson

You may or may not know this but Jason has purchased and "flowed" most of the popular intakes out there. He knows exactly how much CFM they can move.....Different filter shapes, tubes, etc etc.

If I still had my SS, this is the intake I would get.

I'm well aware of his test. My point was, if your engine flows X cfm and you have a panel filter that flows 10X cfm, then a cone that flowed 6X cfm, which one is going to produce better HP results? Both are flowing WELL over what the engine could use. Basically, at what point does the filter stop being the restriction? Somewhere along the line you have to start looking at design and not just at filter flow numbers.