Car Broke Down Tonight...

[FINALLYSATISFIED]

I just read on what happened to your vehicle. Hopefully everything gets fixed and like new and to your satisfaction. Good to hear that you weren't injured as well, keep us updated!

[atma]

Originally Posted by Mr. iNCREDIBLE

I for one didn't imply to "dog" him, however sometimes one needs to think through the issue, remove emotion and use a little logic to understand why things are the way they are, why the dealer/GM makes the decision it does.

Emotion causes you to get hung up on feeling (the OP even stated as much) and sometimes fail to see the reasoning or logic in a given situation.


Yeah I feel for him, as a youngster I had more than my fair share of WTF this isn't fair B.S. from dealers over warranty stuff.

Use it as a learning experience, and file it away.. Critical Thinking skills are something you have to learn.. It takes time, but getting emotional over stuff like this will never get you anywhere.

I understand his frustration, as I for one was simply pointing out that technically speaking he is getting a new transmission, the only thing on it that won't be "new" is the casing, all the internals will be.. So getting upset about that part of it makes the situation seems worse that it is..

I also pointed out that he needs to be sure to ask about warranty, because he is a youngster the dealer might try and fly some B.S. past him.

READ and UNDERSTAND all the paperwork BEFORE you sign and agree when picking up the car..

you certainly were not one of the posters to which I referred. you were being objective and offering a different point of view in a constructive way. I'm not saying everyone should tell him what he wants to hear, by any stretch. sometimes the unfortunate possibilities are still possibilities.

my personal opinion is that if GM built the original tranny and GM built the reman tranny from all new internal parts, it's pretty much the same thing as getting a new tranny. I will say my sister-in-law had a Honda Accord built during a 3 year period when apparently they were building absolute bs trannies. turned out ppl were havin' all kinds of transmission problems after just a few years and Honda refused to call it a manufacturers issue. She had to keep getting new transmissions installed and each one lasted the same amount of time and ended up with the same problem as the original. if they can offer you a solution that keeps your car on the road and you feeling secure, that seems like an ideal solution IMO.

i'm hopin' everything works out for ya, OP. when's homecoming? has the dealership told you anything more definitive yet?

[MS3DALE]

Originally Posted by atma

you know, for a young kid with his first new car that he loves and obviously does his best to take care of as much as he possibly can he seems to be taking this relatively well. He's upset, as he has a right to be. he's finding out opinions on what his options are, as I believe any of us would. He's frustrated but not out of line, I think most of us could agree. So why is it that it seems a few people need to poke their head in and kinda dog on the OP a bit? you see a man burnin' and think "what a great opportunity to get rid of some of this extra gasoline!" c'mon guys, have a li'l compassion and some tact...

I too am not "dogging him",I'm just stating facts

[MS3DALE]

Originally Posted by camaroitalia

Everyone else was saying the value wouldnt change? but putting it like that i guess it will never be truly numbers matching, everything on it is stock.

You'll be fine,todays cars don't have "numbers matching" items anymore.
My opinion,These cars won't go up in value like the ones in the '60's & '70's did,they simply make too many of them,and there too expensive new to begin with.

[shrinkdoc]

Originally Posted by Mr. iNCREDIBLE

hmm let me think this through, since a few people aren't capable of doing so.

new transmission = New case, all new internal parts

Reman transmission = used case, all new internal parts

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so we are getting all bent out of shape over the fact that the casing is used? Factory Reman means all the internals are new..

Now the only other difference would be that the new is built on an assembly line by a computer/robot, and the reman is probably built on a bench by a body..

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beyond that, 1 mile or 99,999 miles, your existing transmission is used correct? you have driven the car, you stated 2,500 miles correct?

so GM is replacing a used transmission with a used transmission, seems fair to me, as long as that reman transmission comes with a warranty that is equal to the exisiting 5/100K (and not some 12 month 12K warranty) then I fail to see the issue...

now if they tell you that the reman transmission no longer falls under the 5/100K and after 12K you have no warranty on it, then yeah I can see getting all bent and twisted.

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insofar as the OPs story, well only he knows the truth, I wasn't there so I have no clue.. nor will I venture to guess

No...just visually worn parts are new, not all.

[shrinkdoc]

Originally Posted by MS3DALE

You'll be fine,todays cars don't have "numbers matching" items anymore.
My opinion,These cars won't go up in value like the ones in the '60's & '70's did,they simply make too many of them,and there too expensive new to begin with.

What do you mean they make too many of them? They used to sell over 200,000 camaros a year compared to todays 90,000.

[shrinkdoc]

Originally Posted by atma

you know, for a young kid with his first new car that he loves and obviously does his best to take care of as much as he possibly can he seems to be taking this relatively well. He's upset, as he has a right to be. he's finding out opinions on what his options are, as I believe any of us would. He's frustrated but not out of line, I think most of us could agree. So why is it that it seems a few people need to poke their head in and kinda dog on the OP a bit? you see a man burnin' and think "what a great opportunity to get rid of some of this extra gasoline!" c'mon guys, have a li'l compassion and some tact...

Yep...sounds like he is learning about the real world...the hard way. The kids growing up.

[cowboy74]

ican throw ya'll for a stranger loop along the same lines diff type failure tho my parents had a 91 caprice bought it usedin 93 still had part of the factory warrenty on it heres where it gets strange the pinion kept going out dealer kept trying 3 times to put the reg pinion in for a 4 door sedan come to findout the whole time the thing had the wagen rear diff in it and they never could get it fixed car ended up traded not long after 4th attempt but yeanumbers matching is whatmost want down the line but hey if yahave major failure andremanis the only way to go ya can have it documented like i have seen in barrett jackson many time when folks show that a major part was replaced early in the vehicles life good luck on ya situation and keep ya head up

[Chevrolet Customer Svc]

Originally Posted by camaroitalia

Yupp, my camaro with only 2,000 miles broke down tonight. Wtf! Stopped at a redlight and started seeing smoke, i thought it was dust from outside. So I rolled up the windows and friggin smoke starts coming in through the vents then I noticed my hood was popped (idk if that is a safety feature or something, idk how it got open) and smoke was pouring out of the engine bay. I tried moving it out of the way, I had to floor it and it would red line just to get it to move (its an auto). I was able to get it off the side of the road while putting up a bypass into a corn field. Opened the hood fully and smoke started pouring out and I saw about a gallon of fluids coming out of the car, I had a line of it following me . I believe the transmission coolant line completely exploded then causing the radiator to pop. Im lucky someone did not hit me at the intersection. Its just hard for me to believe a new car with that low of miles, ive never even been over 75 mph and this would happen. Its my first car as well, literally scared the hell out of me. I thought it was on fire from all of the smoke surrounding me... it eventually got towed tonight to the dealer. I am going in the morning to figure this out.


Cool thing though a fellow camaro owner in 2nd gen z28 pulled over to see if I needed help, I appreciated that.

I apologize for the frustrations you may be experiencing with this concern. If you could please PM the case number, I will be able to check to see if this is being handled properly.

I look forward to your reply.

Brandon
Chevrolet Customer Service

[atma]

Originally Posted by MS3DALE

I too am not "dogging him",I'm just stating facts

c'mon man. you thought I meant you?!? if i ever break down, i'm hopin' it's in your neighborhood! i've seen 1st hand what a truly generous and helpful person you are! always appreciate the great info, as well!

[Mr. iNCREDIBLE]

Originally Posted by Chevrolet Customer Svc

I apologize for the frustrations you may be experiencing with this concern. If you could please PM the case number, I will be able to check to see if this is being handled properly.

I look forward to your reply.

Brandon
Chevrolet Customer Service

and there it is..

[Scalded Dog]

Except in the case of collector-grade vehicles, "matching numbers" are rarely a concern, beyond the easily seen VINs. Most Camaros, as much as we love and adore them, are not going to be "collector cars," especially after being daily drivers of basic assemblyline lineage. And--- correct me if I am wrong--- I've never known the trans to be a "numbers- matching" part... and I have never known anybody who ever looked for a number on a trans. Trannies have always seemed like a component part: easy come, easy go...

[Scrappy Doo]

OP, it's been a few days, what is the update?

[camaroitalia]

Originally Posted by Scrappy Doo

OP, it's been a few days, what is the update?

I have not heard anything back from the dealer. I am going to PM the customer service rep my case number when I get home... As of now, GM called me back yesterday and they said they talked to my dealer and everything seemed ok, this does not mean I will be getting new parts as i requested; as of yet.. I am going to stop by today and check on it and the allignment of the panels. If it is not to my satisifaction, I am not accepting the car. My family and I have discussed and as of now, I am going to sell the car after it is fixed. My father is an engineer dealing with industry powered machining. He and the service rep were arguing back and forth over everything since they do not seem to give a rats ass about my car. Especially like letting it sit over the weekend in a gigantic puddle of all of the fluids continuously leaking out of the car therefore having bare contact on the parts.

What if they do not fix the allignment of the panels? I do not have to accept the car if it is not to my satisifaction, correct?

I am searching for a new four wheel drive vehicle now.