Anyone ever played with an o4 mach 1

[knownfear]

Today it's only 88 but the humidity is 58%. Feels hot, but could be worse.

[easymech2000]

wow there is a whole lot of bolt-on discussion here kinda funny. i have vids of both my camaros running my good friends 04 mach1 and a vid of my 02 ultra z vs a 10 2ss i won all but the car with exhaust only runs consistant 13.1's. thats on street tires not radials... all in all i think it would be a drivers race...btw 84ttopgt on youtube will show you vids for proof.

[Bob Cosby]

Originally Posted by easymech2000

wow there is a whole lot of bolt-on discussion here kinda funny. i have vids of both my camaros running my good friends 04 mach1 and a vid of my 02 ultra z vs a 10 2ss i won all but the car with exhaust only runs consistant 13.1's. thats on street tires not radials... all in all i think it would be a drivers race...btw 84ttopgt on youtube will show you vids for proof.

Uh....what?

[easymech2000]

srry i now realise that the message wasnt all that clear, let me explain again my friends 04 Mach1 with exhaust and tune ran against my 2000 z28 (modded) and my 2002 z28 (completley stock). for referance for you guys with fifth gen camaros there was a vid of my 2002 against a 2011 2ss camaro. the end is my buddy's page on youtube thats 84ttopgt srry for the confusion

[Bad70supreme]

I have said it before, a Bolton Mach is not beating a well driven ls3. I have raced a few of them and they have no top end! With full exhaust, intake, tune, and drag radials and I have seen these cars run low 13s at 107-108 to high 12s on a good run. Not saying that mid 12s can't be done but it not typical. Put headers on a ls3 and you have a mid 12 sec car out of an SS, trapping 111-112 with a solid driver! If this is a roll race then the Mach has no chance.

[08-G35s/6MT]

Interesting.

[Grabber]

If a Mach 1 with FULL BOLT-ons is only trapping 107-108 I would say that is a HORRIBLE driver.

I trapped 107 STOCK. No top-end? LOL.

Most full bolt-on Mach 1's I see are trapping 111-113 with Drag Radials. That is definitely on par with a Stock SS.

[big hammer]

Originally Posted by Grabber

If a Mach 1 with FULL BOLT-ons is only trapping 107-108 I would say that is a HORRIBLE driver.

I trapped 107 STOCK. No top-end? LOL.

Most full bolt-on Mach 1's I see are trapping 111-113 with Drag Radials. That is definitely on par with a Stock SS.

lol

[Bad70supreme]

Originally Posted by Grabber

If a Mach 1 with FULL BOLT-ons is only trapping 107-108 I would say that is a HORRIBLE driver.

I trapped 107 STOCK. No top-end? LOL.

Most full bolt-on Mach 1's I see are trapping 111-113 with Drag Radials. That is definitely on par with a Stock SS.

107 stock Must be in some perfect DA... just like stock ls1 cars all trap 110 LOL. In the real world of racing at a 1000-2000ft Ls1 cars trap 105-108 for a strong car and machs 103-105 stock.... bolton cars I seen running 108ish with ls1s running 110ish. This is typical for what I have run into, and what my ls1 cars ran. The Machs I have lined up with I killed on the topend... they seem to run hard up till mid track when they fall off.

[easymech2000]

Originally Posted by Bad70supreme

I have said it before, a Bolton Mach is not beating a well driven ls3. I have raced a few of them and they have no top end! With full exhaust, intake, tune, and drag radials and I have seen these cars run low 13s at 107-108 to high 12s on a good run. Not saying that mid 12s can't be done but it not typical. Put headers on a ls3 and you have a mid 12 sec car out of an SS, trapping 111-112 with a solid driver! If this is a roll race then the Mach has no chance.

while im no professional at quoting numbers and times with such wide variables ie driver, track condition, vehicle condition, "bolt ons", all im saying is from the vids ive been telling you about id disagree. he posted a video of his car against the same LS3 2ss camaro that my LS1 camaro beat and he won. with bolt ons there would have been no chance for the new maro. they are good competition is all im saying, it wont be an easily won race.

[Grabber]

Originally Posted by Bad70supreme

107 stock Must be in some perfect DA... just like stock ls1 cars all trap 110 LOL. In the real world of racing at a 1000-2000ft Ls1 cars trap 105-108 for a strong car and machs 103-105 stock.... bolton cars I seen running 108ish with ls1s running 110ish. This is typical for what I have run into, and what my ls1 cars ran. The Machs I have lined up with I killed on the topend... they seem to run hard up till mid track when they fall off.

Seriously dude?

I ran at Byron, in Late August. It was over 100 degrees, DA was over 3,000+. Let me rephrase. My Mach was not stock. It had SLP Axle Backs. Which add 3-4 MPH, and a few tenths according to your analysis.

Real world of racing? LOL. Preach much?

My 3rd pass of the day I ran a 13.3 @ 106.93 in my Mach, with heavier wheels. Same day, my friends 07 GT with 3.31 Gears, bone stock, ran 13.4 @ 104.

It doesn't take an expert driver to run a good time. Just one that knows what RPM to try and shift at, and one that knows the difference between hitting the gas and coasting

Most LS1 cars I've seen trap 106-108. Never personally seen an LS1 trap 110, or higher than 110.

Then again, don't all Stock LS3 Camaro's run 12.5 @ 114? They must on this site. Same thing according to C5, there isn't such a thing called a good or strong running mustang. They are all slow, regardless of driver, weather conditions, modifications, etc.

:Shrug:

[Bad70supreme]

I go by what I see with my own eyes in person! 107 in a 100 degrees in a stock mach.... so are stock machs are faster then ls1 F bodys now?

[Bad70supreme]

I mean hell at 3000ft... you had a 110 bone stock mach running at 500ft then... probably not!

[Grabber]

Originally Posted by Bad70supreme

I go by what I see with my own eyes in person! 107 in a 100 degrees in a stock mach.... so are stock machs are faster then ls1 F bodys now?

No, but, they are not "far off" as you claim them to be. You insinuate they will get DESTROYED BY BUS LENGTHS with a stock LS3. Do you not go to the track often? I've seen about 3 dozen stock Mach 1's run, and times range from 13.1 - 15.5 depending on the driver.

Originally Posted by Bad70supreme

I mean hell at 3000ft... you had a 110 bone stock mach running at 500ft then... probably not!

I don't believe in DA correcting my car, sorry but, that is pretty gay. I run what I run, end of story. If your car DID NOT PHYSICALLY RUN THAT TIME, DON'T CLAIM IT. "wink wink"

It would be more like 108-109 in negative DA, as that has happened ONCE before, I repeat, ONCE. Same with Stock LS1's, trapping 108-110 happening here and there.

It's fine, I get it, you think all mustangs run like shit, and are not capable of running good times. Cool.