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Old 09-29-2012, 04:03 PM   #435
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simple, you just wait for one of those to go by and then drive in his tracks

anyway, my 14 yr old beater car just passed inspection so I don't have to worry about driving the camaro in the snow this winter.
Only problem about following someone else's tracks is if he goes off the road guess where your going.
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Old 09-29-2012, 10:45 PM   #436
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Let's see a RWD Camaro do this...

Why put yourself at a disadvantage? IMO, when it comes to driving in winter/snowy conditions, the Camaro is just not the right tool for the job.

As my Dad said in the early '60s, when positraction was becoming popular on two-wheel drive pick-ups, "it just gets you further off the road before you get stuck." Common sense and proper equipment, properly applied with respect for the laws of physics, will enable you to safely handle YOUR vehicle. However, you're still at the mercy of the other guy who may or may not employee those same qualities.
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Old 09-29-2012, 11:29 PM   #437
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Snow tires are your only option if you will be driving on ice/snow. Don't even think about driving past October on pzeros or in snow with all weather tires. They simple aren't good on ice slush and such in NJ
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Old 09-30-2012, 08:17 AM   #438
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Let's see a RWD Camaro do this...

Why put yourself at a disadvantage? IMO, when it comes to driving in winter/snowy conditions, the Camaro is just not the right tool for the job.

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Old 10-01-2012, 01:30 AM   #439
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Let's see a RWD Camaro do this...

Why put yourself at a disadvantage? IMO, when it comes to driving in winter/snowy conditions, the Camaro is just not the right tool for the job.

Well, if you absolutely, positively have to drive up a snowy hill ... yes, a Camaro is a bad choice. But 99.94% of people don't have to drive in those conditions unless they choose to. Of course, for some people its not an option, but for the folks that don't live out in the boonies and/or have jobs where they are allowed to show up late/take the day off due to extreme weather, its simply a non-issue. For the rest, AWD/4x4s are definately a need. But otherwise, traction control & winter tires make a pretty good team (and they cost a whole lot less than a truck)

If your typical winter driving conditions range from cold wet pavement to a few inches of snow, for superior performance go with a performance car with winter tires (a Camaro will do quite nicely). What will stop sooner? A 4000 lb Camaro, a 5000 lb crossover or a 6000 lb SUV? Camaro. What will turn better? A 4000 lb Camaro, a 5000 lb crossover, or a 6000 lb SUV? Camaro. Why is it important to think about what will stop or turn better? Because when there is a red light, a stuck car ahead of you, a kid playing in the street, or a car skidding through the intersection -being able to accelerate in a straight line better does not help you at all. Being able to stop or navigate around the obstruction does. Hey, if nothing else it makes the guy behind you at fault for rear-ending you rather than putting you at fault for rear ending the next guy.
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Old 10-01-2012, 08:06 AM   #440
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My Jeep is only about 200 lbs heavier than my Camaro (which is really sad when you think about it). When I had the V6 Camaro, I drove it through one winter (albeit on all seasons). The next year, I drove the 4x4 Jeep. It was so much better, I can't even describe it. It was so nice to not have to worry about snowstorms and all the associated mess. Now when they forecast snow, I say "bring it!" To me, that peace of mind is worth the extra cost.
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Old 10-01-2012, 12:01 PM   #441
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My Jeep is only about 200 lbs heavier than my Camaro (which is really sad when you think about it). When I had the V6 Camaro, I drove it through one winter (albeit on all seasons). The next year, I drove the 4x4 Jeep. It was so much better, I can't even describe it. It was so nice to not have to worry about snowstorms and all the associated mess. Now when they forecast snow, I say "bring it!" To me, that peace of mind is worth the extra cost.
Hmmm tell that to the Jeep Liberty that passed me on a curve in the hwy last year and proceeded to skid right off the road, AWD and 4x4 will help get you going but its the right tires having the ability to grip that keep you on the road and help you stop.

I can say, as no one was hurt, it sure was nice to be able to stop in my SS Camaro M6 and help the Jeep get back on the road.

Driving a Camaro on all seasons where you're from is so not a good idea they are not meant for the temperatures! I get really tired of people telling me these cars are no good in the winter and then telling me they were either running Pzero summer or all seasons.
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Old 10-01-2012, 12:27 PM   #442
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Go for the V8, with snow, you need the power to push it out of the way.
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Old 10-02-2012, 07:52 AM   #443
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Hmmm tell that to the Jeep Liberty that passed me on a curve in the hwy last year and proceeded to skid right off the road, AWD and 4x4 will help get you going but its the right tires having the ability to grip that keep you on the road and help you stop.

I can say, as no one was hurt, it sure was nice to be able to stop in my SS Camaro M6 and help the Jeep get back on the road.

Driving a Camaro on all seasons where you're from is so not a good idea they are not meant for the temperatures! I get really tired of people telling me these cars are no good in the winter and then telling me they were either running Pzero summer or all seasons.
He probably was in the 4x4 invincibility mindset. I see a lot of idiot SUV drivers in the winter.

I've got AT tires on mine that are rated for severe winter weather (with the mountain/snowflake symbol) on my Jeep, and while a Camaro may do OK with snow tires on plowed roads, there's no way it's outperforming a Jeep. Heck, I don't even need roads. The real problem with the Camaro is its ground clearance. I'm sure it does pretty darn good with snow tires, but I'm just sayin', if you have a choice, there are much better options.
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Old 10-02-2012, 10:31 AM   #444
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I am not sure what all the hubub is about with camaros and snow. I am 45 years old and never had a 4wd vehicle until I was about 32. I have traveled anywhere I wanted to go in snow at any given time with an american rear wheel drive car. I have never even owned a front wheel drive in my life.
Of course you have to be cool when driving in the snow no matter what kind of vehicle it is but with the stabilitrac and traction control it can only be better then any car ive ever driven in the snow before.
Especially with snow tires on it. I got lucky last year here in Jerzey because the only snow we got was in october and melted in a day, but i drove my PZeros all year with out any trouble, are they slipperier in the cold ? well duh of course they are they are summer tires.
I just picked up a set of used SS wheels a couple weeks ago and am going to put on some Blizzaks for this winter as I dont think Ill be as lucky as last year but I am actually looking foward to getting out in some snow with this car and having some fun.
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Old 10-02-2012, 10:34 AM   #445
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Cool vid ET.

I only have a 5 mile commute so the Camaro will get driven this winter with snow tires. I've had a Jeep and other vehicles in the past but just went 4 years driving a RWD TBSS and I was fine (for my commute).
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Good luck to all. Maybe we'll get another winter without much snow like last year. A lot depends on where you live and how good a job the city does at clearing the roads. Sometimes my street doesn't even get touched by a plow until well after a snow storm hits.

Please people, don't drive on Pzeros in snow. I did drive mine last winter when the roads were dry, but it was in the 30s and 40s. It's extremely easy to break traction when the tires are cold and hard. That's on dry roads. Driving in snow with the Pirellis is just asking to get stuck, wreck your car or worse.
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Old 10-02-2012, 05:54 PM   #447
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My Camaro will be getting driven in Chicago in snow and ice this winter. It just makes no sense for me to buy a beater that I will end up probably having to sink cash into, and then have it sit outside and brush and scrape ice off of it every morning. My last car was FWD, but before that I always had RWD Lincolns, and never had a problem in the winter.

I was looking into getting Blizzaks. My Chevy dealer said they can mount and balance them for $10 per tire. (unlike some horror stories on here, my Chevy dealer is ok). So it does not even make sense to spend money on a 2nd set of rims. Especially since the 45th rims are unique.

My question is, are Blizzaks on the rear sufficient since the car is RWD, or do I need to get all seasons or Blizzaks for the front too? I had never heard of summer only tires before, and was not happy to find out that the Camaro has them.
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Old 10-02-2012, 06:24 PM   #448
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My question is, are Blizzaks on the rear sufficient since the car is RWD, or do I need to get all seasons or Blizzaks for the front too? ...
Your back tires get you moving. Your front tires steer and stop you. You do the math ...
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