Shno's House of Z

[JusticePete]

Originally Posted by 2cnd chance

Pete, Your thoughts?

http://camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=253642

We have logged so many miles of overly aggressive driving and testing without an incident it doesn't appear to be a statistically significant. That doesn't change the fact it is a VERY expensive incident. The L/28 did a nasty spin into turn 1 at Eagle Canyon that I think was televised. The car is fully Pedderised and then some with a few parts not yet available to the public. That is just one of too many race car to lawn mower or road grader moments that occur during high performance driving, but the bags did not deploy. We did have the bags deploy on the L/28 at the LPE Nationals at Norwalk. While Danny was flying out of a turn the driveshaft failed violently banging against the tunnel. The bags deployed as the computers read the information as an impending rollover.

We have pulled 1.4+ G peaks in turns without an airbag deployment. We have spun at high speeds. Whenever Danny Popp autocrosses, the run is at the very outside edge of control with violent changes in direction, sudden and aggressive braking, acceleration and steering wheel inputs. Until the drive shaft broke, the bags did not deploy in the L/28. When I look at the videos of a couple of rollover bag deployments I see the wheels appear to be turned close to wheel lock and a shudder side to side in both cars just before the bags deploy. The shudder combined with a close to wheel lock steering angle is what I consider the trigger. I have seen numerous 5th Gens go off track. I have seen numerous 5th Gens AC and Road Course without incident. I saw a 5th Gen so out of control at C5 it did a 180 and hit a 55 gallon drum. No bags.

[2cnd chance]

Interesting thanks.

[OldScoolCamaro]

...bottom line is Pete is burning it up and we are not worthy.....

[Number 3]

Read through that thread. It's tough to comment because it is a crappy situation for the owner to have that happen.

But on the other hand if the car rolled or was in a side impact (SIAB) or side collision (pole or tree or another car) and the airbags did NOT go off they would be complaining about that too.

It doesn't sound fair when you say the car performed as it was designed and you are stuck with the repair bill.

It is a difficult situation for sure. GM said the car is track capable and from what we've seen and heard, it certainly is and then some. But there are probably overlap conditions where the car is at the outside of the envelope and approaching what the sensing system indicates may be a crash event.

Also, keep in mind, it isn't only a roll over. It is also trying to determine a side impact event. So being hit or sliding into a pole for example can and should in some cases deploy the airbags.

Hard to say, but it is one of the risks of taking a street car to the track. It isn't a race car. It has to act like the law requires for a street legal car.

So it did what it was designed to do. But from experience at another OEM, you simply can't comprehend every possible crash or crash similar event a car or truck will experience. It's just not possible.

[JusticePete]

While we are on bags full of hot air, a 3rd party candidate has entered the Presidential Race

[JusticePete]

Originally Posted by Mark487

I'll have a cup of Camaro SS, and a sandwich with lots of info about the Z28 on it.

Welcome to Shno's House! Our LS7 Z/28 is going to be AWESOME!

[2cnd chance]

Originally Posted by JusticePete

Welcome to Shno's House! Our LS7 Z/28 is going to be AWESOME!

You mean AWESOMER!

[JusticePete]

Originally Posted by 2cnd chance

You mean AWESOMER!

That too!

[LOWDOWN]

Originally Posted by 2cnd chance

You mean AWESOMER!

There's a Snowbelt translation for that word...and it happens every June 21st...

Ah! Summer!

[JusticePete]

Originally Posted by LOWDOWN

There's a Snowbelt translation for that word...and it happens every June 21st...

Ah! Summer!

I have distant memories of something called a snow belt

[LOWDOWN]

Originally Posted by JusticePete

I have distant memories of something called a snow belt

Thanks for that, Pete...

The nice part about the snowbelt is, you're only faced with TWO seasons, defined as:

1) Winter

2) Road Construction

[JusticePete]

Originally Posted by LOWDOWN

Thanks for that, Pete...

The nice part about the snowbelt is, you're only faced with TWO seasons, defined as:

1) Winter

2) Road Construction

We do have road construction, if that makes you feel better

[htron50]

Originally Posted by JusticePete

Welcome to Shno's House! Our LS7 Z/28 is going to be AWESOME!

Cammed Up to about 550 HP?? Super hard to get!!

[OldScoolCamaro]

...I have been overloaded with Major League Baseball Playoff's, NFL Football, hot air, and copious amounts of adult beverages since Sunday...what an October!