was anyone able to beat an SS?

[got adrenalin?]

was anyone able to beat an SS?
Ya ... my dad .... after my brother backed into his Cadillac ... i think he used a hammer .... jk

[motorhead]

I honest can't believe that someone would try to say a win isn't a win. Maybe the SRT8 charger should be faster by the numbers ,but guess what it wasn't. Maybe the SRT8 guy needs more seat time. But really, that doesn't matter a win is a win. I watched a 2300 4 banger turbo ford probe go a low 8 sec ET two weeks ago that was impressive. Does it make me want a 4 banger turbo? No. It's just not my cup of tea ,but way bust someones balls for doing what they love and succeeding at it. I think it's pretty funny that the OP put the Charger on the trailer so to speak.

In saying all of that though, I do believe that small displacement motors will see more respect when we start seeing them in topfuel dragsters and topfuel funny cars and running the times that they currently do.

[GretchenGotGrowl]

Originally Posted by motorhead

I honest can't believe that someone would try to say a win isn't a win. Maybe the SRT8 charger should be faster by the numbers ,but guess what it wasn't. Maybe the SRT8 guy needs more seat time. But really, that doesn't matter a win is a win. I watched a 2300 4 banger turbo ford probe go a low 8 sec ET two weeks ago that was impressive. Does it make me want a 4 banger turbo? No. It's just not my cup of tea ,but way bust someones balls for doing what they love and succeeding at it. I think it's pretty funny that the OP put the Charger on the trailer so to speak.

In saying all of that though, I do believe that small displacement motors will see more respect when we start seeing them in topfuel dragsters and topfuel funny cars and running the times that they currently do.

Well put. To each his own.

BTW, we are starting to see more and more 4 banger dragsters. Some of those ecotec's are damned impressive.

[L99CAMA2011]

Originally Posted by motorhead

I honest can't believe that someone would try to say a win isn't a win. Maybe the SRT8 charger should be faster by the numbers ,but guess what it wasn't. Maybe the SRT8 guy needs more seat time. But really, that doesn't matter a win is a win. I watched a 2300 4 banger turbo ford probe go a low 8 sec ET two weeks ago that was impressive. Does it make me want a 4 banger turbo? No. It's just not my cup of tea ,but way bust someones balls for doing what they love and succeeding at it. I think it's pretty funny that the OP put the Charger on the trailer so to speak.

In saying all of that though, I do believe that small displacement motors will see more respect when we start seeing them in topfuel dragsters and topfuel funny cars and running the times that they currently do.

You see this is the thing that bothers me, why do you guys feel offended because I have an SS and I spoke out against a run with a V6 vs a V8 ,do you know my favorite car has a flat 6 and honestly and really I think of all the cars I've owned the less cylinder cars actually impressed me more than the Camaro SS. Honestly I see the Gen 5 SS as the slowest per hp car I ever owned and I really see 2012 V6s as high 13s cars out the box, so again don't get offended because I own an SS. I am also not a fan of the pushrod so for that sorry V8 guys I honestly think this engine sucks buy I still like my SS because it runs well. I also am not a fan or happy with all the power loss from heat that this LS3 suffers. Even my 2007 GT didn't feel that much different when heat set in. They were times I swear that my 6.2 was putting out 200hp and not 400. You shouldn't let the fact you have a V6 where there is a V8 option get to you because V6 owners still have other advantages over V8 owners like handling. Also I bet your V6 doesn't have a big heat soak issue like the V8s. I go to the track and hear guys say the heat is killing my runs but they still only lose like .2 secs or so. V8 pushrod more like 1 second from my viewing.

[sycraft]

Originally Posted by jdenotter

I just cant see why someone buy a V6 and putting a bunch of money into it just to beat a stock V8. Seems like you would of just bought a V8 to me. I know the argument is to make something with less go faster but seems like it would be cheaper to buy a V8 then to FI a V6 to reach the same HP.

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in my 2012 Camar which is still la which is still less than a Camaro SS and that includes my supercharger so I am very happy with mine

[motorhead]

Originally Posted by GretchenGotGrowl

Well put. To each his own.

BTW, we are starting to see more and more 4 banger dragsters. Some of those ecotec's are damned impressive.

It's an old school thought that technology is starting to squash. We used to put the biggest motor in the lightest car to go fast. That's because the big motors back in the day were the only ones that made real power. Well fast forward to 2012. Now we have technology that causes a grey area about what is needed to go fast in the motor department. Really these are good times to be a motorhead. There are more options for people than ever before. I also think it's cool that someone with an SRT8 Challenger, ZL1 Camaro, or yes even the mighty 2013 GT500 has to think twice before lining up next to certain 4 bangers and 6's because you never know what might be going on under there these days.

[speedygonzales]

I apologize for not posting directly to the OP's request but this argument has gotten out of hand.

Originally Posted by jdenotter

I just cant see why someone buy a V6 and putting a bunch of money into it just to beat a stock V8. Seems like you would of just bought a V8 to me. I know the argument is to make something with less go faster but seems like it would be cheaper to buy a V8 then to FI a V6 to reach the same HP.

The current difference in MSRP between the V6 and V8 is a little over $9000.

And let's not forget the fuel mileage difference. My wife get's 29 Highway and in the 20's city with a 6sp manual.

Then there's the insurance rates. Mod all you want, the V6 will always be cheaper.

Need I say more.

[V6owner]

This thread got wayyyyyy off the original question the OP asked....

[motorhead]

Originally Posted by L99CAMA2011

You see this is the thing that bothers me, why do you guys feel offended because I have an SS and I spoke out against a run with a V6 vs a V8 ,do you know my favorite car has a flat 6 and honestly and really I think of all the cars I've owned the less cylinder cars actually impressed me more than the Camaro SS. Honestly I see the Gen 5 SS as the slowest per hp car I ever owned and I really see 2012 V6s as high 13s cars out the box, so again don't get offended because I own an SS. I am also not a fan of the pushrod so for that sorry V8 guys I honestly think this engine sucks buy I still like my SS because it runs well. I also am not a fan or happy with all the power loss from heat that this LS3 suffers. Even my 2007 GT didn't feel that much different when heat set in. They were times I swear that my 6.2 was putting out 200hp and not 400. You shouldn't let the fact you have a V6 where there is a V8 option get to you because V6 owners still have other advantages over V8 owners like handling. Also I bet your V6 doesn't have a big heat soak issue like the V8s. I go to the track and hear guys say the heat is killing my runs but they still only lose like .2 secs or so. V8 pushrod more like 1 second from my viewing.

I'm not offended that you have an SS. I'm offended that you could be so obtuse to say a win isn't a win in heads up drag racing just because the other guy had a faster trap speed. I've been going to the drags for over twenty-five years and I've near heard anyone make that argument.

[GretchenGotGrowl]

Originally Posted by L99CAMA2011

You see this is the thing that bothers me, why do you guys feel offended because I have an SS and I spoke out against a run with a V6 vs a V8 ,do you know my favorite car has a flat 6 and honestly and really I think of all the cars I've owned the less cylinder cars actually impressed me more than the Camaro SS. Honestly I see the Gen 5 SS as the slowest per hp car I ever owned and I really see 2012 V6s as high 13s cars out the box, so again don't get offended because I own an SS. I am also not a fan of the pushrod so for that sorry V8 guys I honestly think this engine sucks buy I still like my SS because it runs well. I also am not a fan or happy with all the power loss from heat that this LS3 suffers. Even my 2007 GT didn't feel that much different when heat set in. They were times I swear that my 6.2 was putting out 200hp and not 400. You shouldn't let the fact you have a V6 where there is a V8 option get to you because V6 owners still have other advantages over V8 owners like handling. Also I bet your V6 doesn't have a big heat soak issue like the V8s. I go to the track and hear guys say the heat is killing my runs but they still only lose like .2 secs or so. V8 pushrod more like 1 second from my viewing.

Not sure how this got all turned around. No one is hating on anyone for having a V8 or an SS. We are just answering the OPs question and pointing out that a win is a win. No one said his car had a higher HP car than his opponent or that it trapped higher, just that he won.

On a side not, yes the LLTs suffer from terrible heat soak as well. Some of it is solved with the manifold isolators, but it is still and issue.

[GretchenGotGrowl]

Originally Posted by motorhead

It's an old school thought that technology is starting to squash. We used to put the biggest motor in the lightest car to go fast. That's because the big motors back in the day were the only ones that made real power. Well fast forward to 2012. Now we have technology that causes a grey area about what is needed to go fast in the motor department. Really these are good times to be a motorhead. There are more options for people than ever before. I also think it's cool that someone with an SRT8 Challenger, ZL1 Camaro, or yes even the mighty 2013 GT500 has to think twice before lining up next to certain 4 bangers and 6's because you never know what might be going on under there these days.

Yeah, and you had to have a lot of HP to push a two or three speed down the track and get a good ET. Now we have 6+ speed transmissions so it is more about power under the curve (broad is better than just low-end torque) when it is matched with the gearing.

[BaylorCamaro]

Originally Posted by L99CAMA2011

Grow up I am not hurt in anyway about a V6 beating a V8 so all you 12 year olds with V6s shut up and grow up.

You're coming in here discounting that the Charger was beat, that's like trying to convince Einstein that 2+2 = Banana. You're the one that needs to grow up based on what you've said in here.

Originally Posted by L99CAMA2011

And honestly don't call me dumb I don't have a V6 and is pissed that it isn't a V8 .

Based on the amount of grammatical errors and blatant ignorance you have, calling you dumb is a compliment.

Originally Posted by L99CAMA2011

and that LLt doesn't substitute for ZR-1 so get another Avatar looser.

I don't understand, it isn't supposed to be ZR-1. I have an LLT powered Camaro. So I'm not supposed to put LLT badges on my LLT powered vehicle?

Originally Posted by L99CAMA2011

You see this is the thing that bothers me, why do you guys feel offended because I have an SS and I spoke out against a run with a V6 vs a V8

LOL what? Absolutely NO ONE here is offended that you have an SS. It's the fact that just about everything you say makes me scratch my head and wonder WTF. You could have a Honda Civic Rice burner, but if your posts actually made a lick of sense no one would care what YOU drive.

Originally Posted by GretchenGotGrowl

Not sure how this got all turned around. No one is hating on anyone for having a V8 or an SS. We are just answering the OPs question and pointing out that a win is a win. No one said his car had a higher HP car than his opponent or that it trapped higher, just that he won.
On a side not, yes the LLTs suffer from terrible heat soak as well. Some of it is solved with the manifold isolators, but it is still and issue.

NOW, back to the OP question. Yes there are several people that are running super chargers, turbos, or spray that have taken down a stock and even moded SS. Heck I even beat an SS when I was N/A, however that was because the driver was new and had a bad launch. However I think we have established that a win is a win, you can have the most badass one bajillion horsepower car but if you cannot get traction at all or have no idea how to drive it, then what's the point? The driver mod is just as important as what's under the engine, especially true the more power you add.

[L99CAMA2011]

Originally Posted by speedygonzales

I apologize for not posting directly to the OP's request but this argument has gotten out of hand.



The current difference in MSRP between the V6 and V8 is a little over $9000.

And let's not forget the fuel mileage difference. My wife get's 29 Highway and in the 20's city with a 6sp manual.

Then there's the insurance rates. Mod all you want, the V6 will always be cheaper.

Need I say more.

That's weird, Geico quoted me more for the V6 options and I told them that was bull, how can the same body with a more economic engine be more to insure. I hate Geico.

[L99CAMA2011]

Originally Posted by BaylorCamaro

You're coming in here discounting that the Charger was beat, that's like trying to convince Einstein that 2+2 = Banana. You're the one that needs to grow up based on what you've said in here.



Based on the amount of grammatical errors and blatant ignorance you have, calling you dumb is a compliment.



I don't understand, it isn't supposed to be ZR-1. I have an LLT powered Camaro. So I'm not supposed to put LLT badges on my LLT powered vehicle?



LOL what? Absolutely NO ONE here is offended that you have an SS. It's the fact that just about everything you say makes me scratch my head and wonder WTF. You could have a Honda Civic Rice burner, but if your posts actually made a lick of sense no one would care what YOU drive.







NOW, back to the OP question. Yes there are several people that are running super chargers, turbos, or spray that have taken down a stock and even moded SS. Heck I even beat an SS when I was N/A, however that was because the driver was new and had a bad launch. However I think we have established that a win is a win, you can have the most badass one bajillion horsepower car but if you cannot get traction at all or have no idea how to drive it, then what's the point? The driver mod is just as important as what's under the engine, especially true the more power you add.

IDIOT small key board = typing errors IDIOT so screw. And posting like that how old are you 11. Grow up and the LLT looks like the ZR-1 badge on the real car I guess there really are 12 year olds on this forum sorry for not noticing. And just curious what does your blown 6 run in a 1/4 don't tell me 12.4 @ 114mph, isn't there tons of V8 s that beats that with boltons personally I expected better. Also this is the net so try not to get a heart attack over this one. I simply stated I liked the car with more power and higher trap not that a win isn't a win just funny all you guys don't know what personally opinion is.