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Unreal · 10-13-2012, 09:58 AM

Then my advice is neither. Tires, suspension, gears, first.

I have a 2012 mustang with a CAI and x-pipe. At the track last week I beat up on several 5th gens including one with 10K+ in mods because he had no suspension/tires/etc. He ran mid 13s all night with his supercharged car. I ran high 12s and he wasn't happy.

litle88 · 10-13-2012, 10:05 AM

That's cause he sucks!!
I have a bud who has a KB and Built Trans running high 11's on stock pirelli's. he needs a driver mod that's for sure.

Cpanthers85 · 10-13-2012, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Kadiggy

thanks for the answers guys, don't worry about long answers, i'm all about details. sounds like a blower is the way to go, but now i'm a little concerned with the supporting mods, I really don't want to have to replace the rear axles and long block. Is that a common issue?...It's got a LS3 and 6 speed, i forgot to include that in my original post. I'm probably not gonna drag race..(much, lol) I don't plan on doing alot of hard launches, plus the car is not my daily driver, i just wanna terrorize the local mustangs, lol.

Replacing the long block only happens for 1 of 4 reasons:
1) Driver Error (going past redline, using cheap gas)

2) Tune Error (bad tune, not safe tune)

3) Not enough supporting mods (no upgraded fuel support)

4) Fluke. Something comes apart as a factory defect.

Replacing the axles or clutch isn't required, but your chances of breaking one increases with the added power. It's a risk, but if you respect the power and know going into it, you *might* have to replace something sooner rather than later, and it WILL NOT be under warranty, then hop on board the FI bus.

WheelmanSS · 10-13-2012, 12:35 PM

Supercharger and a good tune. All day everyday and twice on Sunday. Ask me how I know.

B1976 · 10-13-2012, 12:43 PM

Heads/Cam/Nitrous run with the supercharged cars for half the price.

Run4two · 10-13-2012, 01:11 PM

Boy, there are many different opinions here. Go NIKE!

Just Do It!

TonyC · 10-13-2012, 01:14 PM

buy an lsx454, yank your motor and sell it to recoup some money, still ahead of the game
thats what i would (should have )done

litle88 · 10-13-2012, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TonyC

buy an lsx454, yank your motor and sell it to recoup some money, still ahead of the game
thats what i would (should have )done

Naa and add over 100 lbs, cheap rods, cheap pistons, cheap Lil cam and if you touch it then the "warranty" is over lol. Pass

Stroke your motor to a forged 416 and just keep it set up NA til you slap a s/c with 10/12 lbs of boost!!

I'd do that if it was me.

TonyC · 10-13-2012, 01:34 PM

Lots of options/opinions out there, whatever you do make sure you do it in order, i agree with the forged lower end first

BlaqWhole · 10-13-2012, 03:08 PM

For what the OP wants, a new block and stronger rotating assembly is not necessary at all. A blower with a safe tune is all he needs. That will get him a safe 550+ RWHP all day long with no issues. Set a rev limiter and he won't have to worry about over revving. Any good shop will set him up with the proper fuel components. And supercharger companies offer warranties these days. Simply put, between HCI and forced induction...HCI is better only if you're doing your own labor. If a shop is doing all the labor, then forced induction is better.

Kahdir · 10-13-2012, 03:52 PM

I went cammed and heads because I'm a NA fan, love the sound and the gains aren't bad either

Oxtar41 · 10-13-2012, 03:56 PM

I'm cam'd and supercharged and my low speed drivability is great. I have JRE's blower cam and Ted did my tuning and I have no issues with low speed. And its not a tiny cam either, its actually pretty big. People are amazed how well behaved my car is. I can drive in 6th gear at 1000 rpms an not have any bucking issues.
Its all about the tune and the right parts combination.

Oxtar41 · 10-13-2012, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by litle88

Naa and add over 100 lbs, cheap rods, cheap pistons, cheap Lil cam and if you touch it then the "warranty" is over lol. Pass

Stroke your motor to a forged 416 and just keep it set up NA til you slap a s/c with 10/12 lbs of boost!!

I'd do that if it was me.

Ding Ding Ding! Listen to this guy.

litle88 · 10-13-2012, 04:35 PM

An even cheaper route would be getting a forged set of Eagle H beam rods and a good forged pistons for a forged 376/6.2 you won't need a crank you can use that cause they are good in any high hp applications. Then bolt it all up til your ready for that supercharger. Just my .2

10-13-2012, 09:58 AM	#15
Unreal Drives: 2006 Z06 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 5,712	Then my advice is neither. Tires, suspension, gears, first. I have a 2012 mustang with a CAI and x-pipe. At the track last week I beat up on several 5th gens including one with 10K+ in mods because he had no suspension/tires/etc. He ran mid 13s all night with his supercharged car. I ran high 12s and he wasn't happy. __________________ Nick Corvette Z06 -1200ish rwhp

10-13-2012, 10:05 AM	#16
litle88 V8 Lounge member #2 Drives: 2001 Ws6 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Burbank,IL Posts: 6,373	That's cause he sucks!! I have a bud who has a KB and Built Trans running high 11's on stock pirelli's. he needs a driver mod that's for sure. __________________ 2001 ws6, 40k miles, Ls3 416 stroker, short block built by PER the rest by me. LPE Ls3 heads milled to 12-1 comp, FAST 102, NW 102, kooks 2", dual DMH cutouts, Magnaflow C/B, BTR cam + springs. Full UMI suspension.

10-13-2012, 12:35 PM	#18
WheelmanSS Logic is dead Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: May 2010 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 1,804	Supercharger and a good tune. All day everyday and twice on Sunday. Ask me how I know. __________________ 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS (LS3) 573 RWHP 498 RWTQ - Vortech V3 Supercharger - Kooks Stepped Headers, Magnaflow 16580 - Suspension by Pfadt, Hotchkis. 2007 Trailblazer SS- Sold 2001 Trans Am WS6 431 RWHP 408 RWTQ - Sold 1994 Camaro Z28 - Sold

10-13-2012, 12:43 PM	#19
B1976 Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS (ReallySpecial) Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 72	Heads/Cam/Nitrous run with the supercharged cars for half the price. __________________ Lethal Racing Night Fury Cam pkg. LSR cai, OBX LT headers, Magnaflow exhaust. 3.91 gears. Eibach springs 1" drop. Forgestar F14 wheels.

10-13-2012, 01:14 PM	#21
TonyC Drives: 2010 2SS/RS Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: New York Posts: 194 View My Garage	buy an lsx454, yank your motor and sell it to recoup some money, still ahead of the game thats what i would (should have )done __________________ 2010 camaro 2ss/rs Afe intake,Ported heads,ported manifold &TB,Big Cam, Arh longtubes w/3",25% underdrive,aluminum flywheel,zr1 clutch, tranzilla 6060, gforce 9" strac 430s...worst tune in the world...dc power 300amp alt, audison/kenwwod/cdt system.pfadt/eibach/hotchkis/bmr susp...vented/drilled rotors, hawk pads,s/s lines work in progress : Full electric power steering & Airride

10-13-2012, 01:11 PM	#20
Run4two Drives: 2012 Camaro 2SS Transformer Edition Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Temecula, Ca Posts: 451	Boy, there are many different opinions here. Go NIKE! Just Do It!

10-13-2012, 01:34 PM	#23
TonyC Drives: 2010 2SS/RS Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: New York Posts: 194 View My Garage	Lots of options/opinions out there, whatever you do make sure you do it in order, i agree with the forged lower end first __________________ 2010 camaro 2ss/rs Afe intake,Ported heads,ported manifold &TB,Big Cam, Arh longtubes w/3",25% underdrive,aluminum flywheel,zr1 clutch, tranzilla 6060, gforce 9" strac 430s...worst tune in the world...dc power 300amp alt, audison/kenwwod/cdt system.pfadt/eibach/hotchkis/bmr susp...vented/drilled rotors, hawk pads,s/s lines work in progress : Full electric power steering & Airride

10-13-2012, 03:08 PM	#24
BlaqWhole Account Suspended Drives: 2017 Camaro ZL1 A10 Join Date: May 2012 Location: NJ Posts: 7,692	For what the OP wants, a new block and stronger rotating assembly is not necessary at all. A blower with a safe tune is all he needs. That will get him a safe 550+ RWHP all day long with no issues. Set a rev limiter and he won't have to worry about over revving. Any good shop will set him up with the proper fuel components. And supercharger companies offer warranties these days. Simply put, between HCI and forced induction...HCI is better only if you're doing your own labor. If a shop is doing all the labor, then forced induction is better.

10-13-2012, 03:52 PM	#25
Kahdir Drives: 2010 Chevrolet Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: PA Posts: 2,178 View My Garage	I went cammed and heads because I'm a NA fan, love the sound and the gains aren't bad either __________________ SEPA5.COM – South East Pennsylvania Camaro Owners

10-13-2012, 03:56 PM	#26
Oxtar41 Drives: 700 rwhp 2010 SS Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Garage.. Posts: 803	I'm cam'd and supercharged and my low speed drivability is great. I have JRE's blower cam and Ted did my tuning and I have no issues with low speed. And its not a tiny cam either, its actually pretty big. People are amazed how well behaved my car is. I can drive in 6th gear at 1000 rpms an not have any bucking issues. Its all about the tune and the right parts combination. __________________

10-13-2012, 04:35 PM	#28
litle88 V8 Lounge member #2 Drives: 2001 Ws6 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Burbank,IL Posts: 6,373	An even cheaper route would be getting a forged set of Eagle H beam rods and a good forged pistons for a forged 376/6.2 you won't need a crank you can use that cause they are good in any high hp applications. Then bolt it all up til your ready for that supercharger. Just my .2 __________________ 2001 ws6, 40k miles, Ls3 416 stroker, short block built by PER the rest by me. LPE Ls3 heads milled to 12-1 comp, FAST 102, NW 102, kooks 2", dual DMH cutouts, Magnaflow C/B, BTR cam + springs. Full UMI suspension.