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b1gr3dmachin3 · 12-14-2012, 03:26 PM

What are the differences between these two, if any? Pros/Cons?

Injen PF7012 cold air intake vs Injen Short Ram Intake System

http://www.injenairintakes.com/

Thanks!

ecko04 · 12-14-2012, 10:10 PM

True long CAI vs. Short Ram CAI

Personally, I have the long CAI. I love it. A lot of other people have the CAI Inc. Intake and they like it. It's a matter of preference.

b1gr3dmachin3 · 12-14-2012, 11:22 PM

Thanks, are there any significant differences between the two?

ecko04 · 12-15-2012, 07:14 PM

Injen long CAI is very good and even better with a proper tune. There is no use in getting the Injen short ram. If you would prefer the short ram style, I would go with the CAI Inc. Intake, they not only look better than the Injen short ram but they provide performance increase where the Injen short ram does not.

b1gr3dmachin3 · 12-16-2012, 03:57 AM

That's the answer I was looking for, thank you very much

skibik · 12-16-2012, 01:54 PM

I have the Injen short ram polished CAI. The picture you are looking doesn't do the Injen intake justice. It looks a lot better when the top plate is on. In my book I just looked at the photo for the CAI Inc one and I would say if you are going for looks the Injen looks better, I myself don't like to look at the filter. Bad thing is I didn't get the washer bottle relocation kit and you have to pull 4 bolts and take the cover off to fill it. But not a problem for me since I have only had to top it off once in the 7 months I have owned it and it didn't need filling low wsher fluid never came on. As far as performance I never really noticed any increase. There is a noticeable difference in MPG though since it breathes better. Considering the LFX is supposedly pushing 323HP (sales hype, guessing off the rear of the engine and not the standard rear axle HP that is used these days) the increase I never noticed. Just my $.02.

Dean.

JohnnyBfromPeoria · 12-16-2012, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skibik

Considering the LFX is supposedly pushing 323HP (sales hype, guessing off the rear of the engine and not the standard rear axle HP that is used these days)

All new vehicles are rated at the flywheel.

John B.

skibik · 12-16-2012, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyBfromPeoria

All new vehicles are rated at the flywheel.

John B.

Thank you for clarifying. This I may be wrong on but I thought the standard was switched in the 70's and the manufacturers went to using RWHP. Has it changed again? 323HP sure sounds appealing when buying I guess is why it was done.

As much as I wanted the HP of the SS I just could not justify another $10K so I stuck with the V6. Even looking at the dyno sheets I have seen at 250-280HP is still quite impressive for a V6. I know I am more than satisfied with mine.

Dean.

KaBoom1701 · 12-16-2012, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skibik

Thank you for clarifying. This I may be wrong on but I thought the standard was switched in the 70's and the manufacturers went to using RWHP. Has it changed again? 323HP sure sounds appealing when buying I guess is why it was done.

As much as I wanted the HP of the SS I just could not justify another $10K so I stuck with the V6. Even looking at the dyno sheets I have seen at 250-280HP is still quite impressive for a V6. I know I am more than satisfied with mine.

Dean.

Dean,

With your mods I think your pushing 300+ HP right?

skibik · 12-16-2012, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KaBoom1701

Dean,

With your mods I think your pushing 300+ HP right?

Not sure exactly what it has now. I am upgrading to the machine throttle body and next spring I just may take it in and have it run on a dyno. There is a local one doing it here fairly cheap and just may have to have it checked out. Only have the CAI so far and with the TB being added soon I would guess it would make it about a total of 20HP. I have only seen a couple dyno sheets on other 2012's and they topped out just shy of 280 with the CAI.

Dean.

JohnnyBfromPeoria · 12-16-2012, 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skibik

This I may be wrong on but I thought the standard was switched in the 70's and the manufacturers went to using RWHP. Has it changed again?

It changed in the early 70's, correct. It went from a "gross" HP measurement to a "net" measurement, which is better for comparables, because the standard includes having the accessories mounted on the front of the engine, etc. It hasn't changed since.

John B.

skibik · 12-17-2012, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyBfromPeoria

All new vehicles are rated at the flywheel.

John B.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyBfromPeoria

It changed in the early 70's, correct. It went from a "gross" HP measurement to a "net" measurement, which is better for comparables, because the standard includes having the accessories mounted on the front of the engine, etc. It hasn't changed since.

John B.

Now you just confused the hell out of me. If you are saying it is rated at the flywheel it has changed since the 70's in the recent years. I thought I read somewhere on a car website that prior to 1971 or 72 (somewhere in there) it was checked at flywheel no accessories and then to accessories attached and off the rear wheel. Am I or did I miss something? Please clarify.

Thanks,
Dean.

RJT Impala · 12-18-2012, 02:50 PM

JohnnyB is correct. Manufacturer's Published HP has never been at the wheel; always been at the crank.

12-14-2012, 03:26 PM	#1
b1gr3dmachin3 Drives: 2012 Camaro IOM LFX Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 272 View My Garage	Injen CAI ? What are the differences between these two, if any? Pros/Cons? Injen PF7012 cold air intake vs Injen Short Ram Intake System http://www.injenairintakes.com/ Thanks! Last edited by b1gr3dmachin3; 12-14-2012 at 03:36 PM.

12-14-2012, 10:10 PM	#2
ecko04 Drives: Too many to list Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: East Coast Runner Posts: 878	True long CAI vs. Short Ram CAI Personally, I have the long CAI. I love it. A lot of other people have the CAI Inc. Intake and they like it. It's a matter of preference.

12-14-2012, 11:22 PM	#3
b1gr3dmachin3 Drives: 2012 Camaro IOM LFX Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 272 View My Garage	Thanks, are there any significant differences between the two?

12-15-2012, 07:14 PM	#4
ecko04 Drives: Too many to list Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: East Coast Runner Posts: 878	Injen long CAI is very good and even better with a proper tune. There is no use in getting the Injen short ram. If you would prefer the short ram style, I would go with the CAI Inc. Intake, they not only look better than the Injen short ram but they provide performance increase where the Injen short ram does not.

12-16-2012, 03:57 AM	#5
b1gr3dmachin3 Drives: 2012 Camaro IOM LFX Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 272 View My Garage	That's the answer I was looking for, thank you very much

12-16-2012, 01:54 PM	#6
skibik Guest Drives: bbbbbb Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: bfe Posts: 713	I have the Injen short ram polished CAI. The picture you are looking doesn't do the Injen intake justice. It looks a lot better when the top plate is on. In my book I just looked at the photo for the CAI Inc one and I would say if you are going for looks the Injen looks better, I myself don't like to look at the filter. Bad thing is I didn't get the washer bottle relocation kit and you have to pull 4 bolts and take the cover off to fill it. But not a problem for me since I have only had to top it off once in the 7 months I have owned it and it didn't need filling low wsher fluid never came on. As far as performance I never really noticed any increase. There is a noticeable difference in MPG though since it breathes better. Considering the LFX is supposedly pushing 323HP (sales hype, guessing off the rear of the engine and not the standard rear axle HP that is used these days) the increase I never noticed. Just my $.02. Dean.

12-18-2012, 02:50 PM	#13
RJT Impala Stovebolt BluFlame 6 Drives: '12 2LT/RS, IBM; '20 Traverse Prem Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Wherever! Posts: 893 View My Garage	JohnnyB is correct. Manufacturer's Published HP has never been at the wheel; always been at the crank.