Well that was fun, but once is probably enough.

[03Amputee]

Originally Posted by Bonanza7

Funny, when I had my 440 Mopars in the 60's we had no traction control. I think it made us better drivers. Learned to handle it, and thought nothing of it. Sort of takes the fun away.

I believe that is true. You should learn and be able to handle the power of your car, know how it reacts. If you are scared of the tires breaking loose you are in the wrong car.

[Mr pogo]

Originally Posted by Bonanza7

Funny, when I had my 440 Mopars in the 60's we had no traction control. I think it made us better drivers. Learned to handle it, and thought nothing of it. Sort of takes the fun away.

tire tech and handling is way different than back then.
traction limits are alot higher but less forgiving.
I remember doing brodies all day long in the old bias ply 50 series in my pontiac with a 400 and posi, nowadays you do that with some tires and they will hook hard and toss ya into the weeds.

[zebra]

Originally Posted by Scott@Bjorn3D

Just got the LS3 in October, had a L99 before that.

and ain't you the one who figured out why the L99s wouldn't get out of their own way - fuse pull?
i'm surprised you didn't try it out back then. i know i would if i just found an extra 50hp instantly like that.

come to think of it, i kinda did when i strapped the maggie on... the only thing that tamed me down was the thought of replacing tires

Originally Posted by The_Blur

I kicked my Formula sideways today, so I know that you guys can do it.

whoa dude! when'd you get that? last i saw was the beater - congrats!

[CWI]

Originally Posted by BLU BY U

I've spent 3/4's of my life slideways in old musclecars. The key is to know (when to hit it & when to get off it), and before anybody say's it, i'm gonna beat ya to it. That's what she said.

I did a lot of things back in the 70's in a '68 Camaro SS 396. 400BHP and 700 lbs less on bias tires. Now with 450 to the wheels I still haven't tried some of what I did back then. Never wore a seatbelt back then either.

Originally Posted by Bonanza7

Funny, when I had my 440 Mopars in the 60's we had no traction control. I think it made us better drivers. Learned to handle it, and thought nothing of it. Sort of takes the fun away.

Originally Posted by Mr pogo

tire tech and handling is way different than back then.
traction limits are alot higher but less forgiving.
I remember doing brodies all day long in the old bias ply 50 series in my pontiac with a 400 and posi, nowadays you do that with some tires and they will hook hard and toss ya into the weeds.

They couldn't sell these cars without TC. Too many people would kill themselves. Same for ABS brakes. I had the ABS working last night in my Colorado. Freezing drizzle, did good till I got in front of the salt trucks. Quickly came up on a jacknifed semi taking up 2 1/2 lanes on the toll road. ABS helped me get down to 25 mph and still slid around some on a slope. Went a little slower the rest of the way home.

[oldfriend]

Originally Posted by Scott@Bjorn3D

So I went out and turned off traction control and WOT'd her at 5mph in 1st gear. Man that rear end slide around all over the place. Spun her all the way thru first and half the way thru 2nd. LS3's have some power. But I do not want to kill my tires so traction control will stay on in the future.

Did you do all that on the grass ?

[mikeSS]

Originally Posted by 03Amputee

These cars aren't powerful enough to break the tires loose much less to kick it sideways...

power is there. they are heavy and equipped with great rubber for stock power. i really never had traction problem on nice hot days. when its cold its different story.

[Neumatic]

I put my Perelli's through hell the last month they were on my car. New tires now, no need to burn them up. But it is fun to be rolling down the street and just stomp on the gas and kick it side ways, so I almost miss my old wore out Perelli's.

[OHIOSS]

Originally Posted by 03Amputee

These cars aren't powerful enough to break the tires loose much less to kick it sideways...

Are you drunk or what? Turn off traction and stabilitrack and you can spin the tires all day long. At least I can on my SS.

[stray bullitt]

I may be being a bit too sensible here, but isn't burning out the tyres about as much fun as screwing up a bunch of $20 notes, and setting fire to them?

[Scott@Bjorn3D]

Originally Posted by zebra

and ain't you the one who figured out why the L99s wouldn't get out of their own way - fuse pull?
i'm surprised you didn't try it out back then. i know i would if i just found an extra 50hp instantly like that.

come to think of it, i kinda did when i strapped the maggie on... the only thing that tamed me down was the thought of replacing tires


whoa dude! when'd you get that? last i saw was the beater - congrats!

Dude, I did do no traction control allot on the L99, the LS3 is an entirely different beast. My Kami will get crazy quickly with out traction control and even with it on when I WOT in 1st traction control lights on dash and HUD flashing all the time. The shift to second will also be flashing if running her hard 1st to 2nd.

[MYDLIFECRISIS]

Originally Posted by 03Amputee

No wayyyy!!!!

Then I must be crazy...I've done it!

[vroomapunk]

Yeah, turning all the nannies off and playing around makes for an interesting ride. Hell, if its cold outside and you have all the nannies on it still can get away from you

[GaBoy25]

Originally Posted by OHIOSS

Are you drunk or what? Turn off traction and stabilitrack and you can spin the tires all day long. At least I can on my SS.

I think that was sarcasm lol

[kiteman]

Originally Posted by OHIOSS

I told this story before. I turned off everything while sitting at a traffic light. The road was wet from rain and when I made a right turn to get on the expressway entrance ramp. I gave the car to much throttle and the ass end slid right around. I was heading towards the guardrail then the ditch then the guardrail, OMG I was so glad I had enough control to not do any damage. The only thing damaged was my ego because I ended up facing the wrong way on the entrance ramp front bumper to front bumper of a Mustang GT!. I felt like a fool but the guy in the Mustang rolled down his window and asked if I needed any help. I told him everything was cool, then he said "the Camaro SS sure had a lot of power".

Again, if you can't control the power you have, you need a lesser car. Driving a v8 in the rain and not realizing that the rain is dangerous to drive your car fast in indicates you do not know how to handle the power you have. Anyone with a fast car should know WOT and rain don't mix.