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v6sonoma · 01-02-2013, 11:08 AM

Ask anyone in an area that mandates E-10 how there lawn mowers, boats, weedwackers, and motorcycles are doing. E-15 is even worse.

Hopefully the next car will have a flex fuel engine. :(

plus1zero · 01-02-2013, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Lgndryhr

I stopped buying gas from Shell or any major seller this year. I now only purchase ethanol free gas from a local place about 5 minutes from me.

I'd do the same, except it's 3.03 for regular gas right now and 3.33 for ethanol free. Yeahh...not gonna do that. Used to when it was 2 cents higher I was glad to, but not 30 cents.

Angrybird 12 · 01-02-2013, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Stex

Do not put 15% in your 06.....check owners manual...only 10% max in flex engines...13s maybe ok??....this corn gas will also mess up your small engines and boat motors etc...be sure to run an additive with the corn gas for your small engines...

Wrong.... flex fuel engines were designed to run on E85 which is what 15% is, 85 % gas 15% ethanol. All current engines are designed to run on 10% ethanol without damage. Running E85 in a non flex fuel engine will screw up a bunch.

JohnnyBfromPeoria · 01-02-2013, 11:22 AM

Angrybird, E85 is the opposite of what you wrote. It's 85% alcohol and 15% gasoline.

John B.

Angrybird 12 · 01-02-2013, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyBfromPeoria

Angrybird, E85 is the opposite of what you wrote. It's 85% alcohol and 15% gasoline.

John B.

That's right I got it backwards , but i am positive flex fuel vehicles have always been designed to run on E85.
http://alternativefuels.about.com/od...compat2006.htm

JohnnyBfromPeoria · 01-02-2013, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Angrybird 12

i am positive flex fuel vehicles have always been designed to run on E85.

Si, correct-o.

John B.

Angrybird 12 · 01-02-2013, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyBfromPeoria

Si, correct-o.

John B.

I was wondering that if you look up the 2012 LFX online it shows its a flex fuel engine, but nowhere in my owners manual does it say you can use E85.
Maybe it's because even if the engine is designed to run on E85 the fuel system leading up to it may not be compatible?
My owners manual states this,

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However, E85 (85% ethanol) and other fuels containing more than
15% ethanol must not be used in vehicles that were not designed for those fuels.

mattsfirstSS · 01-02-2013, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by plus1zero

I'd do the same, except it's 3.03 for regular gas right now and 3.33 for ethanol free. Yeahh...not gonna do that. Used to when it was 2 cents higher I was glad to, but not 30 cents.

Thats a whopping $5.64 IF YOU FILL THE ENTIRE TANK FROM EMPTY. Whats 5 bucks when you just spent $57? Besides we are probably talking a couple bucks every time you get gas because who runs to empty? Are we really fretting over a couple bucks? Nevermind that ethanol is less efficient so you'll need more gas anyhow which cuts into that cost savings, so we are down to saving pennies...just get the non ethanol lol

Angrybird 12 · 01-02-2013, 11:43 AM

Just about all the stations I have seen advertising ethanol free gasoline are smaller mom and pop type stations. Even without ethanol I would also wonder what else may be missing from their gas? Detergents and other additives a tier1 gas may contain? I would be careful of them...

SILVERHAWK · 01-02-2013, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Stex

Do not put 15% in your 06.....check owners manual...only 10% max in flex engines...13s maybe ok??....this corn gas will also mess up your small engines and boat motors etc...be sure to run an additive with the corn gas for your small engines...

don't worry I didn't plan on it anyway....haven't used anything but regular gas in 113,000 miles no need to start now. you will see in posts #4 and #7 I mentioned that.....

UPDATE.........

According to page 5-7 of my owners manual.....my 2006 is equipped with a flex fuel motor which will run on E85. It states... Do not use a fuel in which the ethanol content is about 85%

GoldCartridgeGamer · 01-02-2013, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by bb040

the only problem with that there is only one gas station in all of shelby county that has that gas only...sucks

There is actually three places, lol.

GoldCartridgeGamer · 01-02-2013, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by plus1zero

I'd do the same, except it's 3.03 for regular gas right now and 3.33 for ethanol free. Yeahh...not gonna do that. Used to when it was 2 cents higher I was glad to, but not 30 cents.

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Originally Posted by mattsfirstSS

Thats a whopping $5.64 IF YOU FILL THE ENTIRE TANK FROM EMPTY. Whats 5 bucks when you just spent $57? Besides we are probably talking a couple bucks every time you get gas because who runs to empty? Are we really fretting over a couple bucks? Nevermind that ethanol is less efficient so you'll need more gas anyhow which cuts into that cost savings, so we are down to saving pennies...just get the non ethanol lol

The extra cost is worth it. I can save the extra 5 or 6 bucks elsewhere. Also, ethanol free gas here isn't much higher than ethanol gas. The local place I use gets it from Nashville.

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Originally Posted by Angrybird 12

Just about all the stations I have seen advertising ethanol free gasoline are smaller mom and pop type stations. Even without ethanol I would also wonder what else may be missing from their gas? Detergents and other additives a tier1 gas may contain? I would be careful of them...

I am not worried about it. I use chevron techron in conjunction with any gas I use. Also, I highly doubt places with a lot of respect (the place I buy from has been around for a very long time and the family is well known in my city) would sell bad gas. I do see your point though. I've been running ethanol free for some time now and had no issues though. I've checked my engine a few times and everything looks okay.

LIVEVIL · 01-02-2013, 01:39 PM

If all the gas in this country was pure 100% gasoline and we'd be forced to go to a low percentage ethanol blend then yes I would believe the hype.

But given the fact that pretty much every single car on the road today is perfectly fine with 10% ethanol in its tank I doubt that a mere 5% more would wreak that much havok to cause significant damage. If a fuel system can handle 10%, why would it not be able to handle 15%?

hot_rod · 01-02-2013, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by LIVEVIL

If all the gas in this country was pure 100% gasoline and we'd be forced to go to a low percentage ethanol blend then yes I would believe the hype.

But given the fact that pretty much every single car on the road today is perfectly fine with 10% ethanol in its tank I doubt that a mere 5% more would wreak that much havok to cause significant damage. If a fuel system can handle 10%, why would it not be able to handle 15%?

Do some research / reading on the subject.

For a simple start, google "15% ethanol engine damage" ..that returns about 400K results......

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01-02-2013, 01:39 PM	#27
LIVEVIL Drives: Camaro Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: USA Posts: 89	If all the gas in this country was pure 100% gasoline and we'd be forced to go to a low percentage ethanol blend then yes I would believe the hype. But given the fact that pretty much every single car on the road today is perfectly fine with 10% ethanol in its tank I doubt that a mere 5% more would wreak that much havok to cause significant damage. If a fuel system can handle 10%, why would it not be able to handle 15%?