Kenne Bell

[Kelly@PCMofNC]

Dang, I just posted a reply and it disappeared. I was asking what your goals were for the car HP wise, and how do you use it - street car, race car, fun car, etc?

[mcdoogle6969]

Originally Posted by sliding

If you are having Tuning problems with the older style KB intake tube. Contact KB and they will sort you out with a new tube with the Maf sensor relocated and a honey comp insert all at know charge. At least that's what they did for me Saved me spending any money with any suppliers.

Did that, still caused problems and it toasted 2nd gear. The honeycomb design that they send ya is a bandaid, not a fix.

I love my KB, I just wasn't happy with the results of having to rebuild the tranny because their Customer Service sent me something they claimed to be something that it's not. A fix.

JRE's custom 4" intake tube is going to be in my first round of parts orders that I send out for my new build. I've talked with Ted, and about his experiences with similar setups and I have full faith that this is a true fix.

[mikepage0007]

also ran a kb and had 0 issues..iats are def hotter, but unless you are building a track car the iats are gonna make 0 difference ..i dyno tuned 560rwhp with 100% stock ls3-no headers completely stock and mike norris tuned...in florida in july at 97 degrees and 100% humidity...ended up getting 700 with a meth kit and blower cam and 10psi

[mcdoogle6969]

Originally Posted by mikepage0007

also ran a kb and had 0 issues..iats are def hotter, but unless you are building a track car the iats are gonna make 0 difference ..i dyno tuned 560rwhp with 100% stock ls3-no headers completely stock and mike norris tuned...in florida in july at 97 degrees and 100% humidity...ended up getting 700 with a meth kit and blower cam and 10psi

You have a M6 right? Only A6's get these intake issues I believe.

[mikepage0007]

correct, m6..

[Unreal]

Local car is making 820+rwhp through an auto with one. Only issues is the tranny doesn't like all the torque. I know 5.0s are making 620-640rwhp with KBs just bolted on.

[mcdoogle6969]

The stock intake is too big, messes with the MAF and screws with the trans tables (again, through a A6). The delay that it caused was actually so bad that when we would make a shift point at around 6500 it would rev out past 7200+ and I'd instantly let off, I didn't want to find out if it would end up finally shifting. (we played with different shift points and still had the same problem). Then if you have the rev limiter set to 6800 or whatever else, it would just bang against that and not shift. My car didn't experience these problems until after the KB install, and when KB sent the honeycomb and ect, same problems persisted and that's when 2nd gear went bye-bye (so much for that being the fix eh?). There was a thread about this very issue a long time ago.

Again, I love my KB (power and looks) but it's upsetting to just bolt on the kit and have it piss out second gear before even being able to enjoy a FI car. If I would have known that before hand, I would have went with a Whipple or TVS2300 because you don't hear about any similar issues with those.

OP wanted to know some positives and negatives about this blower, I'm just giving the guy what he asked for. It's important to let people know about these issues than to throw it under a rug somewhere to try and hide it like it's not a problem.

[G200 Pilot]

Originally Posted by OscarsG5

Guys I think there's enough hair pulling on the other thread. Iam just looking for some feed back from anybody who's ever dealt with a KB SC? Lets keep the Arguing out! Thanks

I've owned the 2.8LC in the recent past and got rid of it... IAT's are extremely unacceptable. Besides, KB has horrible support and offered a lot of lip service when we complained about the IAT's . I wouldn't do it if I were you...

[mcdoogle6969]

Originally Posted by G200 Pilot

I've owned the 2.8LC in the recent past and got rid of it... IAT's are extremely unacceptable. Besides, KB has horrible support and offered a lot of lip service when we complained about the IAT's . I wouldn't do it if I were you...

Again unless you're serious into tracking it constantly, IAT's are NOT that big of a deal on the streets because EVERY blower will heat soak after driving it around. Also, if you really check the IAT's of the KB to other PD blowers their much closer than you think.

[47AJV8]

I was looking into actually getting a KB, but thank god I was on this forum and saw people complaining about the IATs or else I would have got one and then been P.O. I have 0 intention of running meth/water so high IATs are definitely a deal breaker for me. I mean don't get me wrong, KB is beautiful and makes good numbers, but I think whipple is more logical.

[mcdoogle6969]

Again, unless you are into SERIOUS tracking all the time IAT's are not an issue with the KB, and even if you were into serious tracking the difference between the blowers are pretty damn close, and again if your serious about tracking you probably will get meth, HE upgrade, or chiller on any blower you pick which would void the whole IAT argument anyways. EVERY. SINGLE. SUPERCHARGER. WILL. HEAT. SOAK. on the streets. So if a street car is all it's going to be, pick what you like the best because you won't notice the IAT's.


People who go "Bah IAT's are too high on the KB, their crap" are either 1) uneducated about the KB and other PD blowers. Or 2) a troll.

[G200 Pilot]

Originally Posted by mcdoogle6969

Again, unless you are into SERIOUS tracking all the time IAT's are not an issue with the KB, and even if you were into serious tracking the difference between the blowers are pretty damn close, and again if your serious about tracking you probably will get meth, HE upgrade, or chiller on any blower you pick which would void the whole IAT argument anyways. EVERY. SINGLE. SUPERCHARGER. WILL. HEAT. SOAK. on the streets. So if a street car is all it's going to be, pick what you like the best because you won't notice the IAT's.


People who go "Bah IAT's are too high on the KB, their crap" are either 1) uneducated about the KB and other PD blowers. Or 2) a troll.

I beg to differ with you... Do you own or have you owned a KB LC 2.8? Please tell us about your "track experience" . Also, tell us about your experience with their customer service if you're going to pontificate...

[Ryne @ CMS]

Originally Posted by mcdoogle6969

The stock intake is too big, messes with the MAF and screws with the trans tables (again, through a A6). The delay that it caused was actually so bad that when we would make a shift point at around 6500 it would rev out past 7200+ and I'd instantly let off, I didn't want to find out if it would end up finally shifting. (we played with different shift points and still had the same problem). Then if you have the rev limiter set to 6800 or whatever else, it would just bang against that and not shift. My car didn't experience these problems until after the KB install, and when KB sent the honeycomb and ect, same problems persisted and that's when 2nd gear went bye-bye (so much for that being the fix eh?). There was a thread about this very issue a long time ago.

Again, I love my KB (power and looks) but it's upsetting to just bolt on the kit and have it piss out second gear before even being able to enjoy a FI car. If I would have known that before hand, I would have went with a Whipple or TVS2300 because you don't hear about any similar issues with those.

OP wanted to know some positives and negatives about this blower, I'm just giving the guy what he asked for. It's important to let people know about these issues than to throw it under a rug somewhere to try and hide it like it's not a problem.

a lot of your issues seem to come from poor tuning in my opinion...

[mcdoogle6969]

Originally Posted by G200 Pilot

I beg to differ with you... Do you own or have you owned a KB LC 2.8? Please tell us about your "track experience" . Also, tell us about your experience with their customer service if you're going to pontificate...

Nope I don't own one, the pictures I posted above in an earlier post is of somebody else that I'm claiming to be mine.

Obviously you didn't read my previous post, AT ALL.

Are you trying to tell me that other blowers won't heat soak, or climb to high IAT's while driving on the streets/constant track use?