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Crashnburn7 · 03-03-2013, 06:54 PM

Well shortly my car will be tuned, so I can just imagine the dealer will blame it on that, although I could be wrong. Just an assumption

Crashnburn7 · 03-03-2013, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by biggerisbetter

i dont know why the spark plug wire causes it i think it is something to do with limp mode but it does. just check them when u can i bet thats what it is.

Limp Mode? lol.. sorry Im fairly new, although I am on this forum almost all the free time I have and learned a lot.... still a ways to go

Cam 427 · 03-03-2013, 08:25 PM

The engine is considered a part of the Stabilitrack system. A fault with the engine will trigger the Stabilitrack indication. Is your Service Engine light on? Usually if a miss in the engine is detected, this will set the Service engine and Stabilitrack lights.

Another possibility is... since the car was stored for a while, check under the hood for chewed up wiring by rodents.

Crashnburn7 · 03-04-2013, 05:09 PM

Checked my car, spark plug wires are snug, no signs of rodents (I took precautions on this). I did start it up, and no warning..

Pretty tempremental huh?

MA2010SS · 03-04-2013, 06:19 PM

Timing and fuel management work with stabilitrac, an engine misfire could cause a service stabilitrac because the engine management will not be able to pull timing properly. If you are getting that code at start up and you are not driving the vehicle that could mean that the wheel sensors are not receiving signal. If you drive the car does it go away? Pull it out of the garage and drive it back in, that maybe enough to get the wheel sensors to register with GM LAN...let us know what you find

Cruz-lo · 03-04-2013, 08:29 PM

Weak Batt or slow cranking etc will cause it as well.
Goes away after
Overnight sit or
Reflash of the ECM or
After disconnecting the batt for a while.

Ask me how I know!

I would add when it happens to me the tach no longer works and the car runs like crap!

talltom · 03-04-2013, 09:41 PM

The warning came up Friday and car would not accelerate properly. I think the notification indicates a misfire. Of course the engine light came on and stayed on. The acceleration problem went away when I drove it later in the day, but the engine light stayed on. I suspected the injectors might need cleaning so had that done today. Tech said it was a misfire code and cleared it. Been fine since.

JANNETTYRACING · 03-05-2013, 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crashnburn7

Checked my car, spark plug wires are snug, no signs of rodents (I took precautions on this). I did start it up, and no warning..

Pretty tempremental huh?

Could very well be a low battery, Make sure you keep a battery tender on the car while in storage, Or disconnect the Battery.

There have been Multiple complaints about batteries when storing the car.

The SCT can Scan for any codes and report them to me and I will help.

Ted.

SPCBA · 03-05-2013, 12:05 PM

pretty sure our car uses that service stabilitrak for a lot of things. mine used it for a cracked sparkplug....

Crashnburn7 · 03-05-2013, 04:08 PM

I will scan it with the SCT and let you know Ted, thanks

**Side note: I did not have my battery on a tender, asked a few of my "knowledgable friends" if I should, and they said you shouldnt need unless you are storing your car for more extensive periods of time. And it did sound a tad weak starting up, like the battery was drained.

-Steve

JohnnyBfromPeoria · 03-05-2013, 06:47 PM

It'll never hurt to have a battery tender on a stored vehicle.

John B.

JANNETTYRACING · 03-06-2013, 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crashnburn7

I will scan it with the SCT and let you know Ted, thanks

**Side note: I did not have my battery on a tender, asked a few of my "knowledgable friends" if I should, and they said you shouldnt need unless you are storing your car for more extensive periods of time. And it did sound a tad weak starting up, like the battery was drained.

-Steve

Battery tender is a great investment or get in the habit of disconnecting the battery.

Batteries have a Self discharge rate that varies with manufacturer and type of battery.

High end batteries have a very low Self Discharge Rate.

The cars today have a lot of electronics that run at very low amp draw but it is still a draw just the same.

Battery Tender or Battery disconnect is the only solution for storage.

Ted.

MARKS5LTRETR · 03-06-2013, 03:18 PM

I had a service stabilitrac warning activate when I downshifted from 6th to 5th at about 75 and ran to just over 120ish, it goes away as soon as I get back to just under 80. Happened twice, no cel, so far I haven't had an opportunity to check with a scanner? Ideas?

Beaukz28 · 03-06-2013, 08:13 PM

Stabilitrac works with the ECM and abs to keep the car from loosing control. Similar to trac control. But takes into account the steering angle from the steering wheel position sensor as well as the amount of yaw from the yaw rate sensor. It will close throttle and reduce timing as well as apply different brakes through the abs motor all in an effort to keep the vehicle going in the right direction and from loosing contro. Trac control keeps tires from spinning, abs keeps brakes from locking, and stabilitrac keeps car from loosing control! Anytime there is a trouble code stored it disables the system which is why you get the message. Could be from the abs (wheel sensor issue), or engine code ( stored with engine light on or off), or one of the sensors for the stabilitrac itself. A lot of time you will get a service trac control or service abs message as well since they all work from mostly the same components. It will not come on just from sitting still and not seeing wheel speed. Probably caused by one of two things I see every day. First is low voltage from sitting. Low voltage affects so many things. You could have ten camaros with low volts and they might all have a different symptom. Second, is a code stored. May be a low voltage code. May be a misfire code from loose plug wire which is common. Or I see a lot of chewed wires from stored cars which would probably cause a code of some sort also disabling the system. Did two this week. Get a code pulled and PM me and I will be glad to give some direction. Also, if it is not from an engine related issue, then most likely it is a code stored in the abs module which your programmer may not read.

03-04-2013, 06:19 PM	#19
MA2010SS Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Somerset MA Posts: 725 View My Garage	Timing and fuel management work with stabilitrac, an engine misfire could cause a service stabilitrac because the engine management will not be able to pull timing properly. If you are getting that code at start up and you are not driving the vehicle that could mean that the wheel sensors are not receiving signal. If you drive the car does it go away? Pull it out of the garage and drive it back in, that maybe enough to get the wheel sensors to register with GM LAN...let us know what you find __________________ 2010 Camaro SS Whipple SC, CAI Inc Intake, TSP 1 7/8" LT headers no cats, 3" magnaflow exhaust, HPT, RX Catch Can, LSR Toe Rods, LSR Trailing Arms, ALKY Control Meth, McLeod RXT Twin Disc, ZL1 fuel pump, 3.73 ZL1 Differential Kit, BTR PDS Stage 2 Cam, Tuned by SLOWHAWK Performance Bridgewater MA

03-04-2013, 09:41 PM	#21
talltom Drives: Silver LS Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Silsbee, Texas Posts: 193	Had the stabilitrack service light, too The warning came up Friday and car would not accelerate properly. I think the notification indicates a misfire. Of course the engine light came on and stayed on. The acceleration problem went away when I drove it later in the day, but the engine light stayed on. I suspected the injectors might need cleaning so had that done today. Tech said it was a misfire code and cleared it. Been fine since. __________________ Silver LS - manual, white stripes, black interior, and those swell 18" black steelies! (18" Bavarian aluminum in the garage).

03-05-2013, 12:05 PM	#23
SPCBA Drives: pleather and Chiclets Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: a line somwhere Posts: 4,206 View My Garage	pretty sure our car uses that service stabilitrak for a lot of things. mine used it for a cracked sparkplug.... __________________ the power by www.cunningham-motorsports.com the brakes by www.RacingBrake.com

03-05-2013, 06:47 PM	#25
JohnnyBfromPeoria Drives: 2012 LS M6, Black Join Date: May 2009 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 2,045	It'll never hurt to have a battery tender on a stored vehicle. John B. __________________ 12 LS M6, IPF S/C, ASA GT-5 wheels, VMax PTB 1995 Mitsubishi Montero SR 1987 Dodge Raider Turbo Project 1986 Mitsubishi Montero 2.4l FI Transplant

03-06-2013, 03:18 PM	#27
MARKS5LTRETR I'm a lucky dude Drives: 2010 SIM 2SS/RS #1226 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Winter Springs FL. Posts: 509 View My Garage	I had a service stabilitrac warning activate when I downshifted from 6th to 5th at about 75 and ran to just over 120ish, it goes away as soon as I get back to just under 80. Happened twice, no cel, so far I haven't had an opportunity to check with a scanner? Ideas? __________________ KB supercharged, Meth injected, Kooks sig series, Corsa cat back, Eibach pro kit, engine mods by me, Tuned by Next Level Performance, 2 tons of fun.

03-03-2013, 06:54 PM	#15
Crashnburn7 Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Dayville, CT Posts: 53 View My Garage	Well shortly my car will be tuned, so I can just imagine the dealer will blame it on that, although I could be wrong. Just an assumption

03-03-2013, 08:25 PM	#17
Cam 427 Drives: 2010 2SS Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Washington Posts: 677	The engine is considered a part of the Stabilitrack system. A fault with the engine will trigger the Stabilitrack indication. Is your Service Engine light on? Usually if a miss in the engine is detected, this will set the Service engine and Stabilitrack lights. Another possibility is... since the car was stored for a while, check under the hood for chewed up wiring by rodents.

03-04-2013, 05:09 PM	#18
Crashnburn7 Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Dayville, CT Posts: 53 View My Garage	Checked my car, spark plug wires are snug, no signs of rodents (I took precautions on this). I did start it up, and no warning.. Pretty tempremental huh?

03-04-2013, 08:29 PM	#20
Cruz-lo Drives: 2010 2ss RS Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: N KY Posts: 119	Weak Batt or slow cranking etc will cause it as well. Goes away after Overnight sit or Reflash of the ECM or After disconnecting the batt for a while. Ask me how I know! I would add when it happens to me the tach no longer works and the car runs like crap!

03-05-2013, 04:08 PM	#24
Crashnburn7 Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Dayville, CT Posts: 53 View My Garage	I will scan it with the SCT and let you know Ted, thanks **Side note: I did not have my battery on a tender, asked a few of my "knowledgable friends" if I should, and they said you shouldnt need unless you are storing your car for more extensive periods of time. And it did sound a tad weak starting up, like the battery was drained. -Steve

03-06-2013, 08:13 PM	#28
Beaukz28 Drives: 2010 2SS M6 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: PA Posts: 41	Stabilitrac works with the ECM and abs to keep the car from loosing control. Similar to trac control. But takes into account the steering angle from the steering wheel position sensor as well as the amount of yaw from the yaw rate sensor. It will close throttle and reduce timing as well as apply different brakes through the abs motor all in an effort to keep the vehicle going in the right direction and from loosing contro. Trac control keeps tires from spinning, abs keeps brakes from locking, and stabilitrac keeps car from loosing control! Anytime there is a trouble code stored it disables the system which is why you get the message. Could be from the abs (wheel sensor issue), or engine code ( stored with engine light on or off), or one of the sensors for the stabilitrac itself. A lot of time you will get a service trac control or service abs message as well since they all work from mostly the same components. It will not come on just from sitting still and not seeing wheel speed. Probably caused by one of two things I see every day. First is low voltage from sitting. Low voltage affects so many things. You could have ten camaros with low volts and they might all have a different symptom. Second, is a code stored. May be a low voltage code. May be a misfire code from loose plug wire which is common. Or I see a lot of chewed wires from stored cars which would probably cause a code of some sort also disabling the system. Did two this week. Get a code pulled and PM me and I will be glad to give some direction. Also, if it is not from an engine related issue, then most likely it is a code stored in the abs module which your programmer may not read.