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Firefighter · 03-19-2013, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Angrybird 12

I don't understand the problem? If people buy one or the other at around the same price point Chevy has not lost a thing. In fact they could increase over all sales with a bigger choice. It looks like many ZL1 owners on here would love fewer ZL1 sales so their cars would be even more exclusive. I see it as a Win Win for Chevy and buyers.

That's a pretty valid point you have there.

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shaffe · 03-19-2013, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Angrybird 12

I don't understand the problem? If people buy one or the other at around the same price point Chevy has not lost a thing. In fact they could increase over all sales with a bigger choice. It looks like many ZL1 owners on here would love fewer ZL1 sales so their cars would be even more exclusive. I see it as a Win Win for Chevy and buyers.

That could happen, then they could also have ZL1s sitting on dealer lots bc people are buying the cheaper better/equal performing option. The ZL1 then loses its appeal as the top of the line camaro, bc a model with less power and that costs less performs just as well if not better.

Maybe it would be more of a problem for the dealers

Bhobbs · 03-19-2013, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by shaffe

That could happen, then they could also have ZL1s sitting on dealer lots bc people are buying the cheaper better/equal performing option. The ZL1 then loses its appeal as the top of the line camaro, bc a model with less power and that costs less performs just as well if not better.

Maybe it would be more of a problem for the dealers

Or people would drop the extra coin for the ZL1 to get all the comfort goodies that don't belong on a Z/28.

shaffe · 03-19-2013, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Bhobbs

Or people would drop the extra coin for the ZL1 to get all the comfort goodies that don't belong on a Z/28.

Or that could happen as well. People could say im spending this much already might as well go all the way now.

Or they would be like me, WTF am I spending this kind of coin on a Camaro for and get a Corvette hahahaha

Angrybird 12 · 03-19-2013, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by shaffe

That could happen, then they could also have ZL1s sitting on dealer lots bc people are buying the cheaper better/equal performing option. The ZL1 then loses its appeal as the top of the line camaro, bc a model with less power and that costs less performs just as well if not better.

Maybe it would be more of a problem for the dealers

Boy did that go over your head....
Did you read my post? I said around the same price point, not costs less for the same performance. There are many here that love the performance level of the ZL1 but won't buy one because of the FI. Now if they had a Choice of another Camaro with similar performance for the same price then like I said Chevy could actually increase sales.
Then again make the LS7 a no cost option for the ZL1 and forget a new model all together.

Bhobbs · 03-19-2013, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by shaffe

Or that could happen as well. People could say im spending this much already might as well go all the way now.

Or they would be like me, WTF am I spending this kind of coin on a Camaro for and get a Corvette hahahaha

There's some people (me included) that like the performance of the ZL1 but don't want the supercharger, mag ride suspension, and the weight. Making the Z/28 a stripper model car with the LS7 and pricing it around the ZL1 would give people like me the car we want but doesn't exist.

Abomb1223 · 03-19-2013, 01:52 PM

How are we this close and still no leaks!!

shaffe · 03-19-2013, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Angrybird 12

Boy did that go over your head....
Did you read my post? I said around the same price point, not costs less for the same performance. There are many here that love the performance level of the ZL1 but won't buy one because of the FI. Now if they had a Choice of another Camaro with similar performance for the same price then like I said Chevy could actually increase sales.
Then again make the LS7 a no cost option for the ZL1 and forget a new model all together.

I did miss that at the same price point of your post. I was still going on from my posts a page or two back all guesstimating a "Z28 or LS7 1LE" would come in around 50K offering perfomance on par or better than the 54K ZL1.

LS7 as an option on ZL1 that is a great idea IMO.

Carry on sir haha

Angrybird 12 · 03-19-2013, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Abomb1223

How are we this close and still no leaks!!

After the C7 disaster they may have plugged the leaks. Besides if its just a cosmetic refresh its not like they need to do road tests, and if its performance upgrades they can put them in a 2013 and drive them around and nobody would notice.

2cnd chance · 03-19-2013, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Bhobbs

Or people would drop the extra coin for the ZL1 to get all the comfort goodies that don't belong on a Z/28.

This reminds me of the Trans Am and Formula Firebirds. One for the guy thats wants it all and one for the more focused indidvidual. Choices, ya gotta love it!

Angrybird 12 · 03-19-2013, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 2cnd chance

This reminds me of the Trans Am and Formula Firebirds. One for the guy thats wants it all and one for the more focused indidvidual. Choices, ya gotta love it!

Oh yeah the formulas were awesum. I had a Formula Fiero it had all the running gear of the GT but looked like a 4 cylinder Fiero.

Idea an LS7 powered Camaro with 1LE suspension that looks like an LT.

TPAJETSKI · 03-19-2013, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 2cnd chance

This reminds me of the Trans Am and Formula Firebirds. One for the guy thats wants it all and one for the more focused indidvidual. Choices, ya gotta love it!

I really wish they'd do a stripped down version of the camaro like you could do the formula (although most of the formulas that found their way to dealer's lots were loaded)

Bhobbs · 03-19-2013, 02:12 PM

There's a week left until we know for sure. I'm tired of waiting and want to know.

casper sc/1ss/rs · 03-19-2013, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Angrybird 12

I would like to see lap times of a LS7 Camaro with the 1LE suspension compared to ZL1 times at the same track on the same day. I bet it would be very close.
Having both available would give people a choice between a FI or NA car with similar performance.

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