vs. 392 challenger

[Bad70supreme]

They will soon enlighten us with there vast research!

[newmoon]

Originally Posted by anuebus

challenger 392 great time......12.4-12.5
camaro ss great time............12.6-12.7

.2 seconds faster and the challenger 392 base price is $43, 780
.2 sec slower and the camaro ss base price is $32,635

lmao. shut up. i dont even want to see what a hero time is going to be with a 1LE.
someone with a dodge please help me and all my fellow camaro owner why we made the wrong choice?

Hero time with a 1LE. I can assure you it will not hang with a 392 Automatic car in the following venues: 1/4 mile, top speed, roll race, street light to street light, 1/8 mile. The 1LE will have it's hands full with a 5.0 it doesn't want anything to do with a 392 in the above areas.

[13SS]

Well, you could just put the cars on the track and STFU. Bench racing is for women. Just saying.

[Stew]

Originally Posted by Bad70supreme

Wrong!!! I tell it like it is, do all the pathetic research you want. Ill be at the track and at the shows living it. I dont belittle anyone unless they have it coming, and I am a gear head to the T.... I love all kinds of cars. Its guys that hang in this section of the forum only, they dont race or even own these cars that want to act like they live this stuff and know whats whats! You are one of them.

You are wrong again, i hang in other sections and am because i am a fan of the Camaro and most of the guys here are civil and actually know their stuff and respect other makes and models, unlike you.

[Stew]

Originally Posted by anuebus

challenger 392 great time......12.4-12.5
camaro ss great time............12.6-12.7

.2 seconds faster and the challenger 392 base price is $43, 780
.2 sec slower and the camaro ss base price is $32,635

lmao. shut up. i dont even want to see what a hero time is going to be with a 1LE.
someone with a dodge please help me and all my fellow camaro owner why we made the wrong choice?

Actually make the cars comparable with each other in options and the price is pretty damned close, yes a 2SS with basically all options would be required to come close to SRT levels of equipment, oh and there is the new core SRT8 Challenger for under 40k...........

[Stew]

Originally Posted by bluebeastsrt

Now your just being mean. A 4.7 h.o. swapped pick up is almost the same as a muscle car.

Why don't you go back to defeding your blue typing and you are FAR worse than me for acting like a know it all and getting called up because you are wrong, by the way, the truck is SOHC, not a twin cam which refers to DOHC before you go there........

[Stew]

Originally Posted by newmoon

Hero time with a 1LE. I can assure you it will not hang with a 392 Automatic car in the following venues: 1/4 mile, top speed, roll race, street light to street light, 1/8 mile. The 1LE will have it's hands full with a 5.0 it doesn't want anything to do with a 392 in the above areas.

Ah, you know you had a tune or a hidden nitrous system when you ran that 12.4 in your SRT

Sorry, had to.

[Cruuzin LV]

My best friend has a 6.0L gto that has an intake/larger ported manifold/headers, exhaust, mild cam, tune, wider tires full aftermarket suspension and its a beast. He also has a 2012 6.4L Superbee Charger stock. I've driven the GTO, CHARGER and My Camaro. DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE THE 6.4L! It's beastly and I personally think Dodge lied about the HP. It in no way feels like the heavyweight that it is.

[newmoon]

Originally Posted by Stew

Ah, you know you had a tune or a hidden nitrous system when you ran that 12.4 in your SRT

Sorry, had to.

LOL, actually I am not claiming I went out on day one and ran a 12:40 the first trip to the track I thought I was a better driver than the car was, I spun all through 1st and into 2nd with the nannies off went high 12s, finished with a best of 12:74.

Next time to the track same result with nannies off 12:72, spinning through 1st. I finally said hell put all the nannies on and see what happens, bang 12:40s and 12:50s every single pass. No crazy antics slipping and sliding. Just goes to show you some of us are not as smart as our cars are . It makes me wonder how the ZL1 auto would fare running down the strip with nannies on?

[Bad70supreme]

That gto looks sweet, my friend has a 06 bolted and cammed! The 392 is a beast, and it very well should be faster! It cost more, has better gearing and more power! Gonna take boltons for a camaro to even things up, big deal. If the 392 did not have an edge on a SS then it would be a total fail! Throw some headers and a tune on a 1le and bet the 392 gets walked. We could bench race this crap all day, All I say is bring it on!

[Stew]

Originally Posted by newmoon

LOL, actually I am not claiming I went out on day one and ran a 12:40 the first trip to the track I thought I was a better driver than the car was, I spun all through 1st and into 2nd with the nannies off went high 12s, finished with a best of 12:74.

Next time to the track same result with nannies off 12:72, spinning through 1st. I finally said hell put all the nannies on and see what happens, bang 12:40s and 12:50s every single pass. No crazy antics slipping and sliding. Just goes to show you some of us are not as smart as our cars are . It makes me wonder how the ZL1 auto would fare running down the strip with nannies on?

It happens, had a similar experience with the old GTP. not on the same level speedwise of course, but couldn't brake out of the 14s with the TC off, but left it on and back to back 13s, not bad for 400 in bolt-ons on a 4 door family sedan though

[SGOS252382]

Originally Posted by newmoon

LOL, actually I am not claiming I went out on day one and ran a 12:40 the first trip to the track I thought I was a better driver than the car was, I spun all through 1st and into 2nd with the nannies off went high 12s, finished with a best of 12:74.

Next time to the track same result with nannies off 12:72, spinning through 1st. I finally said hell put all the nannies on and see what happens, bang 12:40s and 12:50s every single pass. No crazy antics slipping and sliding. Just goes to show you some of us are not as smart as our cars are . It makes me wonder how the ZL1 auto would fare running down the strip with nannies on?

The necessity to use the nannies can indicate the car doesn't have a good launch suspension setup for drag racing.
Some cars (high HP and very fast) are quite easy to launch with the nannies off. Then there are cars with half the HP that are very difficult to launch without using the nannies.

But with the SRT-8 it could be as simple as a lack of tire under the car. But in many cases its the suspension setup.

My 06 GTO was way more difficult to launch than my Camaro SS. The GTO came with skinnier tires and a much softer suspension. The GTO only makes 400hp, but its a PIA to launch off the line in stock form.

[anuebus]

wait a minute. im not talking about opions to raise price. u wanna talk about cost of car, quarter mile speed of car, and potential of said cars. i got my ss for 32,750 with an rs package. installed 1LE gears and headers exhaust, tune, cai, back seats out and sparco fronts. and another 50-75 lbs out of car. total cost still under base of challenger charger srt's. and quarter mile time will soon come when it gets nice out around here. but all things point to a low 12. look, im not tryin to bash the dodges. they are finally getting fast and good looking again coming out of factory, but for cost we all have to have common sense on this thread and just say it will depend on driver, condition and so on. hero times are what it states, uncommonly good runs. remember, most pple here got a 1ss to save money and not get 200 more lbs to slow u down. even a base 392 ur paying alot for the extra .2 sec.

im sure if i went to a mopar forum with a tread about a hero time from the ss i would get murdered with posts. lol.

[Stew]

Originally Posted by anuebus

wait a minute. im not talking about opions to raise price. u wanna talk about cost of car, quarter mile speed of car, and potential of said cars. i got my ss for 32,750 with an rs package. installed 1LE gears and headers exhaust, tune, cai, back seats out and sparco fronts. and another 50-75 lbs out of car. total cost still under base of challenger charger srt's. and quarter mile time will soon come when it gets nice out around here. but all things point to a low 12. look, im not tryin to bash the dodges. they are finally getting fast and good looking again coming out of factory, but for cost we all have to have common sense on this thread and just say it will depend on driver, condition and so on. hero times are what it states, uncommonly good runs. remember, most pple here got a 1ss to save money and not get 200 more lbs to slow u down. even a base 392 ur paying alot for the extra .2 sec.

im sure if i went to a mopar forum with a tread about a hero time from the ss i would get murdered with posts. lol.

Whoa, keep inflation in mind. A 1SS with just the RS package is 34885, Challenger SRT Core is 39990, in any case you are comparing modified to stock. Anyways, the SRT is not intended for anyone wanting a stripped down car anyways. Also the difference is really closer to .4-.5 seconds for the auto SRT to a LS3 and .2 for the 6 speed SRT. But yes, you are right conditions and driving ability are probably goiing to pay the biggest deividends in driving to the best times in either one. I do believe the 1LE closes that gap pretty good and I remained impressed with it and would personally have a 1LE over the ZL1.