Who is GM really competing with?

[SS 376]

Originally Posted by E.T.

I think it's more about bragging rights than anything. Like you said, 60K is a lot to spend on a track-only car.

Right. These are trophy/halo cars. Chevy makes its money selling SS's and V6s and I would not be surprised one bit if GM was losing money selling a few hundred Z/28s and ZL1s each year.

[RJT-SS]

GM is trying to sell cars...period. I think they have made a generally smart and well-calculated move to seriously get back in the muscle car business. The 5th gen intro, then the ZL1, 1LE, and now the Z/28....all properly done from a performance and appearance perspective ('14 chrome strip and Z/28 lights notwithstanding). The sales figures tell the story. Everything they have done with the 5th gen so far has kept all of us (and future buyers) interested. We can all have fun debating the history and order of things but GM has done well bringing the Camaro back.

[GMTool]

I don't know but I like what GM is doing. Just awesome.

[Forty5th]

I'm just happy the big 3 domestic auto firms are bringing out more & more choices of performance models nowadays.
Competition is good.

[snizzle]

We're complaining about choices now. Wow.

There is a Camaro for every budget and functional purpose. What a terrible world we live in.

[PoorMansCamaro]

Originally Posted by SS 376

Right. These are trophy/halo cars. Chevy makes its money selling SS's and V6s and I would not be surprised one bit if GM was losing money selling a few hundred Z/28s and ZL1s each year.

I honestly think GM would make more money, if they make the price point of the z/28 45-50k. here's why, lets say the put the selling price at 60k+. lets say they sell 500 in one year. That's 30mil.

It would seem there have been A LOT of people saying they would trade their current cars in for a z/28, if the price wasn't projected to be so high. I've seen a price point of about 50k, for people willing to trade it. I think they could easily sell 1k z/28's at a price of 50k. Making 50mil on the deal. of course this is all speculation on my part, and all hypothetical. who knows, maybe gm only want's 500 on the road.

[RJT-SS]

Originally Posted by snizzle

We're complaining about choices now. Wow.

There is a Camaro for every budget and functional purpose. What a terrible world we live in.

[5thGenOwner]

Originally Posted by PoorMansCamaro

I honestly think GM would make more money, if they make the price point of the z/28 45-50k. here's why, lets say the put the selling price at 60k+. lets say they sell 500 in one year. That's 30mil.

It would seem there have been A LOT of people saying they would trade their current cars in for a z/28, if the price wasn't projected to be so high. I've seen a price point of about 50k, for people willing to trade it. I think they could easily sell 1k z/28's at a price of 50k. Making 50mil on the deal. of course this is all speculation on my part, and all hypothetical. who knows, maybe gm only want's 500 on the road.

I think you've proven one thing with this logic... GM didn't create the Z/28 for sales. And I pat them on the back for that. In this day and age, almost everything is for the all mighty dollar, and I really appreciate it when a company does something for the sake of doing it, not just for profit.

In the Case of the 5th Gen Z/28... 'the sake of doing it' equates to blowin' the doors off anything on a track!

[PoorMansCamaro]

Originally Posted by snizzle

We're complaining about choices now. Wow.

There is a Camaro for every budget and functional purpose. What a terrible world we live in.

first world problems...amirite?!

[SS 376]

Originally Posted by PoorMansCamaro

I honestly think GM would make more money, if they make the price point of the z/28 45-50k. here's why, lets say the put the selling price at 60k+. lets say they sell 500 in one year. That's 30mil.

It would seem there have been A LOT of people saying they would trade their current cars in for a z/28, if the price wasn't projected to be so high. I've seen a price point of about 50k, for people willing to trade it. I think they could easily sell 1k z/28's at a price of 50k. Making 50mil on the deal. of course this is all speculation on my part, and all hypothetical. who knows, maybe gm only want's 500 on the road.

I think that's right. But I don't think Chevy cares about whether people can afford the Z/28, as long as people are buying Vettes, Tahoes, Suburbans, Silverados and Camaros. I think Chevy will view the Z/28 as a success even if they don't sell a single one because they built something that is utterly uncompromising and pure.

[Fenderaddict2]

Originally Posted by 2SS 2011

Call me crazy. Is there THAT much competition on the racetrack to offer these models? Z28 SS 1LE/SS COPO ZL1. I have stated in an earlier post that GM totally destroyed the traditional Camaro Badge naming convention by coming out with a Z28 and giving it a 427 . Z28 was always the model under the SS..It seems like they are trying to offer models like in the 60's that were rare etc.. which is a good thing.. but ..

Are they trying to revive or jump start a culture that now isn't quite what it was in this country years ago?

Are they just trying to compete with Ford for magazine bragging rights?

I mean who really can afford to buy a 60K Plus car just for the track. I'd rather build an older car to compete.. Then again that's just my opinion.

Or could it be that Government Motors is just spending the money that the Gov't gave them.

Who on this board goes to the track religously. I just wan't to guage the responses

60K for a factory backed road legal track car, while not cheap is not expensive either. If you regularly track a car, it's likely not your only car and you tend to earn above the median I would guess. Have you priced a Lotus Exige or Porsche GT3?

[SPCBA]

how dare GM make a car to promote the brand with a name that a couple of generations recognize as badass. the ls7 can only be made in so many numbers so dont expect to see them flooding the market.

[txgoose]

I'm not understanding most of the monikers that Chevrolet is using. I suppose it makes little difference in the long run. Wasn't the Z28, originally, a 5.0L Camaro that was designed to compete in a specific type of racing? And wasn't the ZL1 an all aluminum 427 big block motor that was only offered (from the factory) in the 1969 Corvette as a $10K option. I thought the SS was a V8 and suspension option for a variety of Chevrolets.

[Forty5th]

Too late for Chevy now to realign/reassign the nomenclatures based on the past history. So instead they're redefining/redesigning the pages. At the end, we the consumers have lots of choices & options. That's a good thing.