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67motorcat · 03-24-2013, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MA2010SS

67 did you end up changing the entire differential to the 1LE or do the gear swap?? I am on the fence about selling my 4.11 JRE differential, my 4th gear tops out at 129mph and I am trapping the 1/4 at 125mph.

I just swapped gears into my existing differential.It was really easy.

Read more about the 1LE gear swap here.....

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...04#post6280704

MA2010SS · 03-24-2013, 05:19 PM

Thanks, just wondering which way you went with your swap

2012REDSS · 03-24-2013, 06:57 PM

I've had the vortech v3 and 3.91s for about 3,000 hard driven miles with no issues. I'm putting 565 to the ground on 22s and no problems other then traction. Go with the 1LE gears and you won't be disappointed

dcarlos55 · 03-24-2013, 10:43 PM

I put the 3.91 gear and a truetrac in my car. Been in for a couple thousand miles and quite a few passes down the dragstrip on DR's. I couldn't be happier. I'm not making monster horsepower though.

Chris82xx · 03-24-2013, 11:17 PM

Richmond gears are a hit or miss. If you read over past threads people will go both ways. The cliff note version is like this. Richmond gears used to be really great gears at one time and for quite a while. Somewhere down the line they were bought out and the quality was shot to hell. That's why a lot of people are against Richmond. However, they were bought out again and supposedly good quality is going to go back into the gears.

If you plan, and are entirely sure that you're going to go FI with the car, then save yourself the time now and drop down to LPE 3.45, 3.70, or if you really want to stay with Richmond, 3.73.

For me personally, I'm still using the factory 3.45

VADER SS L99 · 03-25-2013, 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by SGOS252382

Wow!
I'd personally stay away from anything asssociated with Richmond gears.

I had some bad experiences with Richmond gears back in the day and told myself I'd never run them again.

Me as well. Never again will I use Richmond even if the quality has gotten better. My advise to the OP is get the GM 1LE 3.91's or the GM LPE 3.70's. If you break something with those gears it will most likely be a axle or entire rear end not the gears themselfs. I think the 1LE gears can be had for as little as 300dollars.

denooo11 · 03-28-2013, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Badger

Why not Put the 1LE 3.91 gears in it......oh..and take it someplace else to get em installed

Take the gears to a rearend guy, get the Jre posi mod and end caps!!!!

blake2010ss · 03-28-2013, 05:38 PM

I had my 3.73 richmonds break on a 1-2 shift on street tires. snapped off 5 teeth. i was told that it was from "shock load" and not warrantied.

LPE 3.91s installed and so far so good. No noise from these either unlike the richmonds. Same Installer.

StephenS_84 · 03-29-2013, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by lexlueger

Richmond gears are junk! Go with AAM aka Lingenfelter you'll thank me later.

This is exactly what you should do. Screw Richmond gears. I've never heard one claim of the LPE gears breaking. All you hear about is the trash Richmond gears breaking.

SC2150 · 03-29-2013, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by fldrummer

Likely bad setups/installs. I've had my Richmond 4.10s for 44K miles with no issues and even made a couple track passes after my cam install (albeit on street tires and conservative launches) . It will be interesting to see how they hold up with my SC added to the mix.

Absolutely agree.

Motive, richmond, etc. All in the setup. We see incorrect setups all the time with whine or borken ring gear teeth from excessive backlash.

ONLY have a proven shop (that has been doing gears for years) do the install. It is something few do correctly.

Talks Cheap · 03-29-2013, 05:14 PM

Ok so the Dealership put the factory third member back in and now I have a third member with broken 4.33's. Who do you guys recommend to install a new set of gears that will warranty them?

03-24-2013, 05:19 PM	#16
MA2010SS Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Somerset MA Posts: 725 View My Garage	Thanks, just wondering which way you went with your swap __________________ 2010 Camaro SS Whipple SC, CAI Inc Intake, TSP 1 7/8" LT headers no cats, 3" magnaflow exhaust, HPT, RX Catch Can, LSR Toe Rods, LSR Trailing Arms, ALKY Control Meth, McLeod RXT Twin Disc, ZL1 fuel pump, 3.73 ZL1 Differential Kit, BTR PDS Stage 2 Cam, Tuned by SLOWHAWK Performance Bridgewater MA

03-24-2013, 10:43 PM	#18
dcarlos55 Drives: 2017 HBM A10 ZL1 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Jacksonville FL Posts: 1,205	I put the 3.91 gear and a truetrac in my car. Been in for a couple thousand miles and quite a few passes down the dragstrip on DR's. I couldn't be happier. I'm not making monster horsepower though. __________________ My build thread http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=224342 Go is good. Stop is better.

03-24-2013, 11:17 PM	#19
Chris82xx Make your peace with God! Drives: 2011 Camaro SS/RS M6 Convertible Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Dirty Jersey Posts: 1,595	Richmond gears are a hit or miss. If you read over past threads people will go both ways. The cliff note version is like this. Richmond gears used to be really great gears at one time and for quite a while. Somewhere down the line they were bought out and the quality was shot to hell. That's why a lot of people are against Richmond. However, they were bought out again and supposedly good quality is going to go back into the gears. If you plan, and are entirely sure that you're going to go FI with the car, then save yourself the time now and drop down to LPE 3.45, 3.70, or if you really want to stay with Richmond, 3.73. For me personally, I'm still using the factory 3.45 __________________ ECS base supercharger (NOVI 1500SL), ECS AlKY control kit, 92mm TB, ARH 1 7/8" LT's non-catted, Borla 3" exhaust, ID850 injectors, Squash fuel system, ECS Big Blower Cam, MGW short throw shifter, DSS 1000hp axles, LGW differential cover, billet caps, Tech AFX heater hoses, Pedders differential bushings, Eaton TrueTrac differential, PRC dual valve springs, Katech C5R timing chain, ATI balancer, Meilings oil pump, Pfadt Trailing Arms, Pfadt Tie Rods, Pfadt Sway Bars, Pfadt End Links, DSS Aluminum Driveshaft 811RWHP/719RWTQ UNDER MAJOR OVERHAUL!!

03-28-2013, 05:38 PM	#22
blake2010ss Drives: 2010 Camaro 2ss/rs Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: stone mountain, GA Posts: 2,228	I had my 3.73 richmonds break on a 1-2 shift on street tires. snapped off 5 teeth. i was told that it was from "shock load" and not warrantied. LPE 3.91s installed and so far so good. No noise from these either unlike the richmonds. Same Installer. __________________ 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS LS3 1093/1066 416, AGP 6262, E85, Cam

03-29-2013, 05:14 PM	#25
Talks Cheap Drives: 2010 Camaro SS/RS Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Kansas City, Ks Posts: 16	Ok so the Dealership put the factory third member back in and now I have a third member with broken 4.33's. Who do you guys recommend to install a new set of gears that will warranty them? __________________ 2010 Camaro SS Texas Speed Cam, OBX Headers, Pypes mufflers, P1-sc Procharger with 4psi boost, 580rwhp, tuned by Justune, ZL1 complete rear.

03-24-2013, 06:57 PM	#17
2012REDSS Drives: 2012 Camaro SS Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: NC Posts: 657	I've had the vortech v3 and 3.91s for about 3,000 hard driven miles with no issues. I'm putting 565 to the ground on 22s and no problems other then traction. Go with the 1LE gears and you won't be disappointed