GREEN Camaros are coming, WHITE Camaro is alive, and Buick 3800 engine rumor

[FxsX24]

i think the FI 3800 would give more mileage to offset a z28 in CAFE

[Tran]

Originally Posted by Splitter

WHATEVER. I'd wear that green on a Camaro. Let's just call it a universal muscle car green.

Now that'd be a funny paint name

[Supermans]

Originally Posted by TAG UR IT

Is that how much hp it pout out?...200hp? Blown, could it put out the same as the current V6?

Yes, that is how much the last generation V6's put out.. I know because a few friends bought them... They were billed as world class engines back then.. Remember the competition which was the Mustangs V6 at that time was a 3.8 liter 150HP engine.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buick_V6_engine

Series II

Introduced in 1995, the Series II is quite a different engine. Although the stroke for the 3.8 L engine remained at 3.4 in (86 mm), and the bore remained at 3.8 in (97 mm), the engine architecture was vastly changed. The deck height is shorter than the Series I, reducing weight and total engine package size. This required that the piston connecting rods be shortened 1 in (25 mm), and the crankshaft was also redesigned. A new intake manifold improved breathing while a redesigned cylinder head featured larger valves and a higher compression ratio. The result was 205 hp (153 kW) and 230 lb·ft (312 N·m), better fuel economy, and 26 lb (12 kg) lighter overall weight (to 392 lb (178 kg)). The 3800 weighs only 22 lb (10.0 kg) more than the High Feature V6, despite being an all cast iron design.

The new intake manifold greatly improved breathing. To meet emissions standards, an EGR tube was placed in the intake manifold to reduce combustion temperatures. This increases fuel mileage by a substantial margin.

The 3800 Series II was on the Ward's 10 Best Engines list for 1995 through 1997.

GM recalled 1.5 million vehicles with this engine on April 14, 2009.[4]

[edit] L36 Naturally Aspirated
A variation of the L36 engine in a 1998 Holden VT Commodore
Another variation of the L36 engine in a 1995 Oldsmobile 88

This engine is or was used in the following vehicles:

* Buick Le Sabre
* Buick Park Avenue
* Buick Regal LS
* Buick Riviera
* Chevrolet Camaro
* Chevrolet Impala
* Chevrolet Lumina LTZ
* Chevrolet Monte Carlo (Z34, LT, SS)
* Holden Commodore (VS, VT, VX, VY)
* Holden Statesman (VS, WH, WK)
* Holden Ute (VU, VY)
* Oldsmobile Eighty-Eight
* Oldsmobile Intrigue
* Oldsmobile LSS
* Oldsmobile Ninety-Eight
* Pontiac Bonneville
* Pontiac Firebird
* Pontiac Grand Prix

[Vash]

The most built GM V6 is probably the 4.3L though. It's a 350 with 2 cyl's chopped off. I have one in my Blazer and it's good motor.

[vm1971]

NICCCCCCCCE!
but i still yearn for a "Panther Black Metallic"-esque color like on the G8 and stuff.... SUPER hot.

but all of that is cool news!

[Hylton]

I heard this engine rumor as well but just didn't make sense to me. Why would they offer a 3.8 next to a 3.6? Maybe the 3.6 is going to get punched out to a 3.8.

[Vash]

Originally Posted by Hylton

I heard this engine rumor as well but just didn't make sense to me. Why would they offer a 3.8 next to a 3.6? Maybe the 3.6 is going to get punched out to a 3.8.

That's why I was thinking they would get the LS a 4 Cyl.
(runs to hide behind chicken wire at the stage).

Ok What I mean.. is a 6 with 2 cyl's that turn off for AFM like the L99. Yea.. I know it sucks.. but just thinking about the market.

Because LS does not need 300 HP and a 6 speed transmission.

Ford's new strategery is to dump cheap base mustangs and to grab sport coupe Market share. Problem is they can offer them 5 grand or more below what Chevy can do. Cause of the independent rear end, better eng and tranny, Chevy can't offer that cheap. So... you make LS cheaper to counter that move. Just what I am thinking it's of course no GM rumor just a "what I would do if".

And it does not hurt the performance models of the Camaro, it probably would help protect SS production by showing more MPG and cheaper prices. A decoy.

[radz28]

EEK! I hope that doesn't mean an FI'd 3.8L for the Z28...

[stovt001]

If the green rumors are true, GM may have found a way to convince me to buy a new coupe soon rather than wait and buy a used 'vert later on. Good decision lads!

The Buick engine rumor, I dunno about that. Sounds a little far fetched to me. What is that even being used in currently? Not saying it isn't true, just that I'll need a bit more supporting evidence before I buy into it. So what are the specs on the thing?

[Milk 1027]

I don't think you guys realize how happy I am right now.

I'm practically on the verge of tears

[JHart]

they're probably going to use this as an option against ford's new ECOBoost motors, a fi'd v6 with good mileage.

[Hylton]

Originally Posted by Milk 1027

I don't think you guys realize how happy I am right now.

I'm practically on the verge of tears

Oh pretty sure we have a good idea....

[radz28]

Originally Posted by JHart

they're probably going to use this as an option against ford's new ECOBoost motors, a fi'd v6 with good mileage.

Those suckers seem like they're pretty stout. Still - I'd prefer to hear the exhaust from a good-sized V8 (with a little whine ) and not a flat-note V6 with a whoosh It's a Camaro, after all; not a GNX. I won't complain too much though, as long as it performs

[stovt001]

Originally Posted by radz282003

Those suckers seem like they're pretty stout. Still - I'd prefer to hear the exhaust from a good-sized V8 (with a little whine ) and not a flat-note V6 with a whoosh It's a Camaro, after all; not a GNX. I won't complain too much though, as long as it performs

Well it is my understanding that Ford intends for Ecoboost to be an alternative to the V8 in Mustang, not replace it. Hopefully if GM is offering this engine in response the purpose will be the same. I agree with you, having an increasingly rare V8 is a big part of the Camaro's appeal.