Most Drilled Holes For A License Plate Holder You Have Ever Seen!?

[NJCamaro21]

UPDATE:

Just got off the phone with my salesman. He said he will now call me again on Monday with a final word on what can be done. He asked what I would like done and I told him, I would just like the holes covered up. I said if there were the 4 standard holes there, like there should have been if the license plate holder was put on properly, then me and him wouldn't even be having this conversation because I would just put the painted push pin plugs into the 4 holes and I would be happy.

He then went on to say "So you are going to risk getting a ticket for no front license plate as it is state required?" Basically trying to make the law be their excuse not to fix the holes and thus make me keep the license plate holder on.

However, I reminded him that he told me specifically, "That he has Corvette and Camaro customers that tell him specifically not to put the plate holder on when the car is ordered, so their dealership does not." So I guess the law doesn't apply to their dealership or that driver in that given scenario...

I will give a new update when I have one on Monday.

[two_wheel_mayhem]

You didn't buy a new car, and they didn't put that plate holder on there it was that way when they took it on trade or whatever. Someone originally bought the car and they wanted a front plate, but since the cars never come with them installed they just had their boyfriend who frames houses do it or some other obvious incompetent.

Salesman lied to you, but he doesn't know better anyway and you should know better than to take his word for anything. You act like this is your first rodeo or something. This is normal everyday crap happens every time. Now since you complain they will try to help you out if you are persistent, but they don't want to have more than $100 in helping you. Some states have 'buyer's remorse' laws that lenders have to adhere to, so the stalling may be a tactic to prevent you from calling back your loan, if applicable.

Yes you can sue but they can also lie and say they have no idea what you are talking about and used cars are sold as-presented unless deals are worked out in writing prior to the sale.

[Blk-Ice]

Seeing this really makes me appreciate my salesman telling me he wasnt going to put holes in my bumper and that he was going to give me the front tag so that i could find another way of displaying it. In which case i went with the hide away tag holder.

[NJCamaro21]

Originally Posted by two_wheel_mayhem

You didn't buy a new car, and they didn't put that plate holder on there it was that way when they took it on trade or whatever. Someone originally bought the car and they wanted a front plate, but since the cars never come with them installed they just had their boyfriend who frames houses do it or some other obvious incompetent.

Salesman lied to you, but he doesn't know better anyway and you should know better than to take his word for anything. You act like this is your first rodeo or something. This is normal everyday crap happens every time. Now since you complain they will try to help you out if you are persistent, but they don't want to have more than $100 in helping you. Some states have 'buyer's remorse' laws that lenders have to adhere to, so the stalling may be a tactic to prevent you from calling back your loan, if applicable.

Yes you can sue but they can also lie and say they have no idea what you are talking about and used cars are sold as-presented unless deals are worked out in writing prior to the sale.

That post seems a little angry on your part. Which is weird because I'm not angry at all. I have never come off angry in any one of my posts. So I dont understand the rudeness.

Your post is also riddled with incorrect information. So your entire post was basically a waste of your time and my own for reading it and now responding. But I'll respond anyway just for your satisfaction.

1) Your right this isn't my first rodeo. I am just looking to see if anything can be done. What my options are. It never hurts to ask.

2) This car was originally sold at their dealership and was then traded back in at their dealership. So I know the exact history of the car. So what you said is false. The way dealerships work in Indiana are different then New Jersey and so and so forth with every other state.

3) I bought the car full and in cash. I may only be 21, but I didn't need a loan for my previous two cars and I didn't need a loan for this car. That's why I got a college education and why I have a job. So I can buy things that I want.

4) I never spoke about returning the car and I never said I had buyer's remorse. I never said I wouldn't buy the car if I saw the holes were there in the first place. I love the car!

5) So thank you for post on this thread. It was a great contribution

[NJCamaro21]

Originally Posted by Comrando

Why don't you put the front plate on?

The front plate is on. I went to go take it off though to make the front look cleaner and that's when I saw the holes. So I have put the front plate back on again until I get it fixed.

[two_wheel_mayhem]

All I'm saying is you could use the buyer's remorse law for leverage. We all know what needs to be done, it needs to be fixed and I'm assuming you would like to not be the one paying for it since you feel you were misled by the seller.

I guess I assume too much about how you paid for it too and I apologize. I figured anyone who pays cash for a used car wouldn't shop at a dealer, there are plenty of nice individuals trying to sell their used Camaros privately which usually affords better deals and a more honest sale.

Guess I made an ass outta me eh? Most of it just advice on how you can prevent this from happening next time, but since this isn't your first rodeo history is probably doomed to repeat itself.

[Scooter11]

Originally Posted by Comrando

Aren't you required to have a front plate?

And hire someone to pump fuel?

Have you been reading this thread at all?! Obviously not or you wouldn't have posted this! Let me save the OP some frustration by having to answer a question like this again... Yes, in NJ you are required to have a front plate (besides the fact), the problem was with the dealer who had it on when he bought it. This wouldn't be so much of a problem if there were just a single set of holes, but as the title of the thread states, that's not the case...

[NJCamaro21]

Originally Posted by two_wheel_mayhem

All I'm saying is you could use the buyer's remorse law for leverage. We all know what needs to be done, it needs to be fixed and I'm assuming you would like to not be the one paying for it since you feel you were misled by the seller.

I guess I assume too much about how you paid for it too and I apologize. I figured anyone who pays cash for a used car wouldn't shop at a dealer, there are plenty of nice individuals trying to sell their used Camaros privately which usually affords better deals and a more honest sale.

Guess I made an ass outta me eh? Most of it just advice on how you can prevent this from happening next time, but since this isn't your first rodeo history is probably doomed to repeat itself.

I'm not trying to have an argument and be an asshole, so please don't take my comment that way. I like everyone on this forum because they voice their opinions which is awesome. I just don't want people to think I'm being a whiny bitch lol I'm a very laid back person no matter what is thrown at me.

So I appreciate your advice. At the end of the day if they won't help me I'll go to my body shop and have the holes filled in. The main point of the thread was to show people something they haven't seen before. Which seems to be the case.

[two_wheel_mayhem]

Originally Posted by NJCamaro21

I'm not trying to have an argument and be an asshole, so please don't take my comment that way. I like everyone on this forum because they voice their opinions which is awesome. I just don't want people to think I'm being a whiny bitch lol I'm a very laid back person no matter what is thrown at me.

So I appreciate your advice. At the end of the day if they won't help me I'll go to my body shop and have the holes filled in. The main point of the thread was to show people something they haven't seen before. Which seems to be the case.

I'm a laid back person too glad you didn't go full fledged asshole. My writing is blunt but I have no time for small talk and BS or sugar coat crap, dance around the subject. Sometimes it's me on the other end of the phone talking to unhappy customers. People ask my opinion so often it's a wonder I even offer it up voluntarily. I hate the car dealer games though, so I'm always willing to rant about it. Still open to what misinformation you claim I stated though.

[NJCamaro21]

Originally Posted by two_wheel_mayhem

I'm a laid back person too glad you didn't go full fledged asshole. My writing is blunt but I have no time for small talk and BS or sugar coat crap, dance around the subject. Sometimes it's me on the other end of the phone talking to unhappy customers. People ask my opinion so often it's a wonder I even offer it up voluntarily. I hate the car dealer games though, so I'm always willing to rant about it. Still open to what misinformation you claim I stated though.

Yah I get you. Im blunt to. The misinformation I claimed was about the license plate holder being put on by the owner after he purchased the car. I know the dealership put it on. It's all good though. lol

[two_wheel_mayhem]

Originally Posted by NJCamaro21

I know the dealership put it on. It's all good though. lol

When do you think they put it on there, when they took it in on trade or when they sold it to the original owner? I thought the lie was all about the sales person saying it was taped on and then going on to tell you they never put them on Camaros or Corvettes thus contradicting himself immediately but you seemed to buy into it.

Part of that could be a true statement, as MOST dealers do not install these plate holders unless you make them do it. In my case, both New Camaros I purchased had the plate holder and attaching hardware in the trunk upon delivery. They also both came from dealers that are in states with front license plate required (IL, VA)

Either way, I can see that happening because they won't run it back through the service shop, they have to pay the mechanic his labor rate, so I could see a salesman or lot-boy picking up the screw gun and taking care of that. It's the way big business works with no teamwork and everyone is only concerned about their dollar. Same reason I had a new house built one time and there was a 16-3 romex wire sticking out of a hole in the drywall. No one asked, no one cared, no one used common sense.

[NJCamaro21]

Originally Posted by two_wheel_mayhem

When do you think they put it on there, when they took it in on trade or when they sold it to the original owner? I thought the lie was all about the sales person saying it was taped on and then going on to tell you they never put them on Camaros or Corvettes thus contradicting himself immediately but you seemed to buy into it.

Part of that could be a true statement, as MOST dealers do not install these plate holders unless you make them do it. In my case, both New Camaros I purchased had the plate holder and attaching hardware in the trunk upon delivery. They also both came from dealers that are in states with front license plate required (IL, VA)

Either way, I can see that happening because they won't run it back through the service shop, they have to pay the mechanic his labor rate, so I could see a salesman or lot-boy picking up the screw gun and taking care of that. It's the way big business works with no teamwork and everyone is only concerned about their dollar. Same reason I had a new house built one time and there was a 16-3 romex wire sticking out of a hole in the drywall. No one asked, no one cared, no one used common sense.

To be honest I'm not sure when it was put on. The salesman said when a car is ordered, they won't put the license plate holder on if specified not to. Otherwise they go on all the car's on the lot. I only asked that because there was a black ZL1 with no license plate on it waiting for pick up by the owner who ordered it.

The exact conversation I had with the salesman about the license plate holder on my car before I bought it was "I don't understand why dealerships drill holes into the bumpers to attach the license plate holder." Now, I only asked that because I did my research before hand and saw all the threads about the 4 holes left behind once removing the license plate holder. That's when he responded with "No they aren't drilled into the bumper. This is held on by 3m tape."

Now that was a surprise to me as I never heard anyone on the forum say that about their license plate holders. But I just thought this dealership was different. Oh how I was wrong.

[two_wheel_mayhem]

What a load of crap, anyway I'd expect the repair to be around $500-800 unless you know where to get deals, alot of times cheaper body work is just that though...cheap with no guarantee. You can have the holes fixed and any decent body shop has a lifetime guarantee so nothing to stress over. The dealer will probably offer to help you out if you persist, because it's the good way to do business.

[NJCamaro21]

Originally Posted by two_wheel_mayhem

What a load of crap, anyway I'd expect the repair to be around $500-800 unless you know where to get deals, alot of times cheaper body work is just that though...cheap with no guarantee. You can have the holes fixed and any decent body shop has a lifetime guarantee so nothing to stress over. The dealer will probably offer to help you out if you persist, because it's the good way to do business.

Yah I will see what they say. If they cant help me out, in all honesty it will probably be cheaper if I just bought an SS bumper and then sold this one. There are tons of options. I will know where I stand on Monday once I hear back from them.