How long till these cars gain value?

[Wizard1183]

Originally Posted by jd10013

no, the new talk will be how many miles you get between charges

anyhow, I disagree. there will still be 400HP cars from the factory. they'll always have to be large V8 motors for trucks and SUV's, so production will never end. though I believe they'll be very rare. in 20 years a V8 in a car will be mostly obsolete because you'll be able to get well over 400HP in a V6. hell, there are already plenty of V6's sporting 500 or more HP. it's just a matter of price coming down.

We're at what? 662HP in the GT500 and I dont see it going much more than that,though the new C7 is supposedly breaking 700HP. How long will this keep up before it we hit a high and have to come down? But in 10 yrs, I assure you, you wont have anything produced by the big 3 pumping out near that number.
There are MANY ppl who own trucks now adays that dont put anything in the bed nor do they tow with it. As for SUVs, I bet its 10% of ALL SUVS used to actually tow. Maybe theyll just connect twin turbos to a v6 to get the horses there or some other technology made to provide enough torque to tow. I was mainly referring to cars. Performance cars will not have V8s in my prediction. I think itll go to V6 with high performance upgrades. Now on the otherhand, it is possible that theyll have V8s. Because afterall, NHRA needs a V8 to push the edges of speed down the straight. I'll say this, IF and a big IF, they produce V8s 20 yrs from now and theyre cranking out 4 & 500HP? The cost will probably be around the price of a COPO if not more. Production numbers will be extremely low volume just for the very wealthy or racing sponsors and such.

I say this as factory produced vehicles. Not saying V8s will be totaly extinct to be clearer about it.

[jd10013]

what I'm saying is there will always be applications for the V8, so it's never going away. GM, Ford, and Chrysler, Nissan, and Toyota will always design and produce them for use in heavy duty, and super duty trucks. and there are a ton of them sold every year. you don't realize it because it's usually business's that buy them as opposed to individuals.

now that being said, I believe you wont see much of them in performance cars. most likely those will go (as you said) the TTV6 route. not hard to get up over 500hp with that.

[Wizard1183]

Which in turn makes a camaro have a decent chance in gaining valuein about 20+ yrs, though as one mentioned, its a shitty investment.

I want to keep mine up as well as I can to pass down to my son. Im debatign on in the future picking up a 2010 1SS and modding the shit out of it and going blow some doors off of some vehicles.

[Scooter11]

Y'all might not live to see that day (meaning it could take a long ass time)

BTW, washed and detailed mine today

[BigRedMikeLV]

Originally Posted by Wizard1183

...though the new C7 is supposedly breaking 700HP.

Lol wut? The C7 is at 450 buddy.

Anyway, V6's will never gain value. Sorry, but you can just look at other cars to see that. The top enders are the only ones that gain value in a line. The other thing is, like others have said, the definition of value of a car changes over time. The old Mustangs and Camaros really aren't worth as much money as they sell for due to lack of power and features in similarly priced modern vehicles, but supply and demand jacks up their price. There are more old people who want those cars then what is available so up goes the price. If that ever happens with these cars then yes, value will return. But only when most of us are old or dead and buried. Don't feel bad, the 70's and 80's wont really have many cars of values due to the complete wreck of a period for builders those two decades were with the rushed implementation of CAFE and safety standards.

[ChrisBlair]

Originally Posted by Bonanza7

What about a Yugo? Now that is a real classic!

You never know! The Edsel was a flop when new. Look at prices today

[newmoon]

What made and makes the muscles cars valuable is the fact they essentially died off in 1970. For the next 30+ years there was very little in the way of factory stock muscle. The only exception to this seems to be the 87 Grand National which has increased in value over original cost. This is when the prices on these cars drove up. In regards to the 2010 SS well I don't think it will ever appreciate, to many made and there are better models following them. Whatever the last muscle cars will be when the EPA shuts them down again will be those worthy of collection IMO. The best present example we have of modern muscle car investment would be the limited run on the 2003/4 Cobra, even that is lucky to fetch a little over 1/2 it's original price tag for low mileage examples. In regards to the specialty vehicles like ZL1, look at what happened to the 07-09 Shelby as a perfect example. As better faster versions were and are introduced their values decreased drastically

[jd10013]

Originally Posted by ChrisBlair

You never know! The Edsel was a flop when new. Look at prices today

that's actually quite true. the primary thing that makes things valuable is not knowing what will and will not be valuable down the road. the '69 camaro is valuable because no one though it would be, so few survived. on the other hand, you have things like beanie babies. everyone though they would be worth tons of money in the future, so millions of people hoarded them. now, there's so many out there in mint condition they'll never be worth anything.

[Wizard1183]

Originally Posted by BigRedMikeLV

Lol wut? The C7 is at 450 buddy..

Sorry, I meant C7 ZR1 is on that verge.

I could careless about whether or not the cars worth anything. It's kind of like having all your money in the bank and not spending it so your kids will have something you leave them. Ill leave mine the house. The money ill have is mine and I'm going to enjoy it. In 40+ yrs, if you see gramps hitting 200 mph on the interstate, get the **** out the way! Ill be looking to go out with smile on my face.

[PalmerGA]

Well as far as 5th Gens go, this one has probably gained quite a bit from it's MSRP of $24,700.
http://www.autoblog.com/2011/06/20/c...ion-units-old/

[Nate GM]

I doubt any of the Camaros for now on will gain value. Only the Vettes will gain value at this point since they're much more rare.

[JJKJ]

Here's a pretty good related example on how the value of these cars progress as they age:

I own a 1979 Trans Am WS6. A WS6 is similar to our current-gen 1LE's. It upgraded the regular Trans Am's swaybars, shocks, gearing, added wider wheels and a couple other goodies.

The 79 Trans Am I own is an original survivor with only 15,000mi, original paint, interior, etc and still sits on its original tires. In other words, this car was babied, garaged, and hardly driven throughout its 34 year life.

I have the original window sticker for my car which listed at $8672.55 in 1979. If you assume the buyer got a great deal at about $1000 off list (those were the days before big rebates), he paid around $7672.55. If you convert that to today's dollars it equates to $24,598.27. I value my car currently at $23,900.

So the point of this post? Unless you have something ultra-rare, you can keep your car for the next 34 years and hardly drive it, keep it all original, and sell it for a $698.27 loss.

[whamslam3]

once the remodel comes out cuz they r so ugly dealers are goin to be begging for our sexy 2010's

[214Chevelle]

They don't make them like they used too. I highly doubt if any of todays cars, not just Chevy, gain that much value as opposed to the cars of the 50's, 60's and 70's. Also, majority of today's cars look too much alike. There are no defining lines like back in the day when a model only ran for a year or two. Now, a model will run 4-6 years and sometimes longer with only headlight and tail light changes.