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Old 05-04-2013, 09:03 AM   #15
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CR is great if you want to buy a vacuum. I buy Motor Trend/Car and Driver/Road and Track if I want accurate road test information.
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Old 05-04-2013, 09:09 AM   #16
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Consumer reports says camaro is the least fun muscle car and mustang is the most fun.
Not sure how they came to that conclusion


http://autos.yahoo.com/news/cars-tha...235804567.html

opinions are like assholes, everyone has one.
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Old 05-04-2013, 09:12 AM   #17
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Does anybody here on C5.com understand why CR hasn't asked them to give their opinion on this sub-genre? Biased, I'm sure, but you would think that a good percentage of car enthusiasts know the difference between which car is "fun to drive".

Simple answer. You have to be a CR member to contribute.

So CR recommends Toyota, Honda, etc. The members who subscribe to CR listen and buy the products that CR recommends. Then report back to CR in these polls. So.... if CR never recommends Chevy, you'll find too small of a sample size to be considered scientifically accurate. They'll have no trouble reporting that Chevy always tests poorly, of course. Never explaining to the avg. Joe that buys their magazine exactly how flawed their testing methodology is.... The same company that gave the brand new Cruze a below avg. score for predicted reliability and therefore would not recommend it to buyers. What did they recommend? Corolla. What a joke.

Anyway, if the review is favorable or unfavorable to Chevy I don't see that impacting sales in the slightest. Your average Pony/Muscle Car buyer is not a CR subscriber and will probably openly ridicule any CR subscriber who parrots their bile. Consumer Reports educate, (see indoctrinate), the uneducated. Those who know better, however don't read, relate or endorse CR.

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Old 05-04-2013, 09:24 AM   #18
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I had read that a CR exec. is married to a TOYota exec.,hence the bias against GM. MotorTrend had said the Mustang was funner to drive(sightlines),but chose the Camaro overall.They called the Mustang a scalpel and the Camaro a sledge hammer.
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Old 05-04-2013, 09:32 AM   #19
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This only proves one thing. Ford spends more money advertising in Consumer Reports than Chevy does.
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Old 05-04-2013, 09:37 AM   #20
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Consumer reports says camaro is the least fun muscle car and mustang is the most fun.
Not sure how they came to that conclusion


http://autos.yahoo.com/news/cars-tha...235804567.html

Consumer Reports doesn't necessarily represent the buying public's taste as confirmed by sales numbers.
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Old 05-04-2013, 09:51 AM   #21
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CR? They were touting Toyota just before the recall abyss a couple of years back.
No credibility.

PS- I looked at the Mustang before I bought the Camaro.
The "new" Mustang still looks too much like the 2005. The Ford "Grabber" blue and "Got to Have it" Green weren't my cup of tea either. Reminded me of the old Earl Scheib colors of the 1950s. Guaranteed against fading for 5 years.
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Old 05-04-2013, 10:05 AM   #22
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Consumer reports says camaro is the least fun muscle car and mustang is the most fun.
Not sure how they came to that conclusion


http://autos.yahoo.com/news/cars-tha...235804567.html
I'd take about as much stock in that as I would CR telling me that one toaster was more fun to operate than the next one.
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Old 05-04-2013, 11:40 AM   #23
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Everyone is in Ford kiss butt mode right now. The 2012+ Mustang does have some features that GM should have made available on the 5th gen Camaro. GM has added a few as accessories like the footwell & cup holder lighting, and the My link radio. But the Mustang does have lighting that you can change to different colors, and the light up door sill Mustang logo. These are things that GM should be marked with a big fail on. The Camaro is meant to be a fun sporty car, but GM has given it just too many basics and not enough tech advances. Worse off is the fact that Ford can wrap all of that into about a $36k package, yet GM's Camaro equivalent would push probably $42k for the same. I love the 5th gen Camaro but I think these little things GM is really lagging on that would make the Camaro that much more amazing of a car.
The Mustang is built on the DEW 98 platform that has been around since 98 and was finally put to use for the Mustang in 2005.

When your using an older platform your costs have been already been re-couped.

The Stang is lighter and has about the same power,but I bet their owners would love to have GM's manual transmissions instead of the made in China crap they have now.

BTW footwell and cup holder lighting couldn't possibly change my driving experience
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Old 05-04-2013, 12:51 PM   #24
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Consumer reports says camaro is the least fun muscle car and mustang is the most fun.
Not sure how they came to that conclusion


http://autos.yahoo.com/news/cars-tha...235804567.html

yahoo news- less than reputable source- reporting on a biased magazine that produces questionable results.

Yeah. I'll buy that for a dollar
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Old 05-04-2013, 12:56 PM   #25
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This only proves one thing. Ford spends more money advertising in Consumer Reports than Chevy does.
CR doesn't accept any advertising. Not saying I agree but that was not the reason for their opinion.
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Old 05-04-2013, 01:06 PM   #26
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Yah everytime I climb in my Camaro I am so bummed, what a boring ride , I never have no fun in it . What a stupidass report , CR has lost all respect now .
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Old 05-04-2013, 01:08 PM   #27
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yahoo news- less than reputable source- reporting on a biased magazine that produces questionable results.

Yeah. I'll buy that for a dollar
You mean a penny?
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Old 05-04-2013, 01:10 PM   #28
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You mean a penny?
Canadian or US?
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