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Pro Stock John · 05-05-2013, 09:28 PM

So the first part of your track passes have nothing to do with converter lock-up. The 60 ft for example is just showing that you are spinning or bogging, I would assume spin. Need to get that down, I've gone 1.85 with just a few bolt-ons, and hope to get into the low 1.6's with the new converter if my tires can hook it up.

Typically you'd only have the converter locking up in the top of 4th (or not at all for simple NA combos like these).

60 is nothing to do with converter, it's about lack of traction.

white ZL1 · 05-05-2013, 09:43 PM

And the Yank is a single disc and is not meant to be locked at wot anyways.

*mlee* · 05-05-2013, 09:52 PM

You're tuner should set it to lock at a certain MPH not by gear.

1989GTA · 05-05-2013, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by white 2SS/RS

And the Yank is a single disc and is not meant to be locked at wot anyways.

What he said. Do not lock it up at wide open throttle. You will burn out the lock up clutch in short order.

Supercharged SS · 05-05-2013, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Pro Stock John

60 is nothing to do with converter, it's about lack of traction.

A properly matched converter will greatly improve the 60'. So the 60' has a ton to do with the converter.

Supercharged SS · 05-05-2013, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by white 2SS/RS

And the Yank is a single disc and is not meant to be locked at wot anyways.

Very true. No locking up a single disc at wot. It won't last long. At light throttle and cruising you can lock it.

white ZL1 · 05-05-2013, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Supercharged SS

A properly matched converter will greatly improve the 60'. So the 60' has a ton to do with the converter.

I think John knows that, I think he was just implying that in this particular case that traction was probably the limiting factor.

And I was going to quote your question about the lockup, but you deleted the post? I've always heard that Dave doesn't recommend locking his single disc converters. I believe he either has, or is working on, some triple disc converters.
I probably shouldn't link to this, so if a mod needs to delete this.....my apologies.
http://www.performancetrucks.net/for...k-pics-467586/

Pro Stock John · 05-05-2013, 10:13 PM

Some converter companies are cool with locking their single disk converters at WOT depending on the power level.

To the quote, right, that's what I meant. Is Jamie trying to bust my balls? I've been 1.35 on DR's and help on a car that's gone 1.22 on 315 DR's. I was just noting that his high 60 ft is more due to traction issues than a converter lock up issue as the converter would still be in first and not be leaked.

Supercharged SS · 05-05-2013, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by white 2SS/RS

I think John knows that, I think he was just implying that in this particular case that traction was probably the limiting factor.

And I was going to quote your question about the lockup, but you deleted the post? I've always heard that Dave doesn't recommend locking his single disc converters. I believe he either has, or is working on, some triple disc converters.
I probably shouldn't link to this, so if a mod needs to delete this.....my apologies.
http://www.performancetrucks.net/for...k-pics-467586/

After rereading what John wrote I can kinda see where he was implying his thoughts to this particular thread. He just wasn't able to make it clear.

Nothing wrong with your link. I've burned up some PTC converters that were single disc in a heavy truck. I answered my own question. That's why I removed my question. I'm trying not to clutter up his thread anymore than I already have.

Supercharged SS · 05-05-2013, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Pro Stock John

Some converter companies are cool with locking their single disk converters at WOT depending on the power level.

To the quote, right, that's what I meant. Is Jamie trying to bust my balls? I've been 1.35 on DR's and help on a car that's gone 1.22 on 315 DR's. I was just noting that his high 60 ft is more due to traction issues than a converter lock up issue as the converter would still be in first and not be leaked.

Where's the suck my dick comment? You could've left it. I had a good comeback.

Oh well... I got what you meant with the OP blowing the tires off.

While this chat is mildly interesting I don't think we are helping the kid why his car is running like poo? Anyone have any ideas?

white ZL1 · 05-05-2013, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Supercharged SS

Where's the suck my dick comment?

I think we need an emoticon for that. lol

Supercharged SS · 05-05-2013, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by white 2SS/RS

I think we need an emoticon for that. lol

Haha. It was smart ass remark he wrote. It's all good. I thought it was funny!!

siriusdish · 05-05-2013, 10:34 PM

The tuner said the convertor is not locking up at all. Did not say it was going to break and not move.I am trying to figure out if that is why the car is slow..

white ZL1 · 05-05-2013, 10:39 PM

No. The car is slow because the 60' sucks.
The converter not locking at wot means nothing. I don't lock mine and went 11.61 on a 1.63 60'.
You're going 115, so we're mph'ing damn near the same....but I'm willing to bet with traction and a good 60' you might actually see your mph go up a mph or two.
Take your 2.17 and drop it to my 1.63 and what's your ET change to? Easy 11's, and that's just at a 1:1. You'll see a bit better than that.

05-05-2013, 09:28 PM	#15
Pro Stock John Writer Drives: 2010 SS / 1967 Camaro Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 7,221	So the first part of your track passes have nothing to do with converter lock-up. The 60 ft for example is just showing that you are spinning or bogging, I would assume spin. Need to get that down, I've gone 1.85 with just a few bolt-ons, and hope to get into the low 1.6's with the new converter if my tires can hook it up. Typically you'd only have the converter locking up in the top of 4th (or not at all for simple NA combos like these). 60 is nothing to do with converter, it's about lack of traction. __________________ PROJECT HEAVY CHEVY Camaro Now: Mods for the Masses Part I \| Part II 13.15@106 1.95 \| 100% Stock 12.37@112 1.85 \| + Kooks Headers/Cats + 20" 555R + CAI + BW TB + UDP + Tune 12.06@113 1.70 \| + CD 3200 + 18" NT05R + RCR Intake + NE OTR + GPI Tune 11.84@115 1.59 \| + 3.91s + Race Star 17x7 Fronts 10.90@125 1.47 \| + GPI VVT Cam + BW Ported Heads + CD 3800

05-05-2013, 09:52 PM	#17
mlee CamaroFans.com Drives: ZLE & ZR2 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Conroe, TX Posts: 38,037 View My Garage	You're tuner should set it to lock at a certain MPH not by gear. __________________

05-05-2013, 10:13 PM	#22
Pro Stock John Writer Drives: 2010 SS / 1967 Camaro Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 7,221	Some converter companies are cool with locking their single disk converters at WOT depending on the power level. To the quote, right, that's what I meant. Is Jamie trying to bust my balls? I've been 1.35 on DR's and help on a car that's gone 1.22 on 315 DR's. I was just noting that his high 60 ft is more due to traction issues than a converter lock up issue as the converter would still be in first and not be leaked. __________________ PROJECT HEAVY CHEVY Camaro Now: Mods for the Masses Part I \| Part II 13.15@106 1.95 \| 100% Stock 12.37@112 1.85 \| + Kooks Headers/Cats + 20" 555R + CAI + BW TB + UDP + Tune 12.06@113 1.70 \| + CD 3200 + 18" NT05R + RCR Intake + NE OTR + GPI Tune 11.84@115 1.59 \| + 3.91s + Race Star 17x7 Fronts 10.90@125 1.47 \| + GPI VVT Cam + BW Ported Heads + CD 3800

05-05-2013, 10:34 PM	#27
siriusdish Drives: 2010 Camaro L99 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Erie PA Posts: 1,226	The tuner said the convertor is not locking up at all. Did not say it was going to break and not move.I am trying to figure out if that is why the car is slow.. __________________ 2010 L99 vararam intake, Vmax TB,Vmax Intake,TSP VVT 3 Cam,TSP underdrive pulley,Yank 3600,TM Cooler,ARH 2", High Flow cats, X-pipe, GM Pro mufflers, RX Catch Can,160 stat, BMR Trailing,toe,Cradle insert, Diff. Bushings, End links, Spohn-LCA's (Touring)Wheel spacer's. 422 rwhp Mustang Dyno http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaFNAhCL7Os

05-05-2013, 09:43 PM	#16
white ZL1 Drives: none Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: DFW area Posts: 1,844	And the Yank is a single disc and is not meant to be locked at wot anyways.

05-05-2013, 10:39 PM	#28
white ZL1 Drives: none Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: DFW area Posts: 1,844	No. The car is slow because the 60' sucks. The converter not locking at wot means nothing. I don't lock mine and went 11.61 on a 1.63 60'. You're going 115, so we're mph'ing damn near the same....but I'm willing to bet with traction and a good 60' you might actually see your mph go up a mph or two. Take your 2.17 and drop it to my 1.63 and what's your ET change to? Easy 11's, and that's just at a 1:1. You'll see a bit better than that.