XBoxOne Discussion - New XBox Console

[Mindz]

Originally Posted by PoorMansCamaro

although that's a good point, there's nothing wrong with bringing out your old systems to play your older games, now and again.

I mean, if you really play those games that often, then there's really no need to upgrade to the newer system. Most people get newer systems to play the newer games. in the case of the xbox one, seems they are targeting more than just hardcore gamers, but to a wider audience. And who knows, the gaming experience might still be better than ps4. We won't know until both systems are out. xbox might be more "bang for your buck", without losing gameplay ability, compared to ps4.

Exactly yhe reason I won't be upgrading. There's no need to spend money on a new console if I enjoy the current one. There's nothing insanely enticing that I MUST HAVE the new console.

Originally Posted by SPARTAN sui

Any reason why you can't have your 360 connected to your TV at the same time as an Xbox One?

You can, but why for? So I can use up another hdmi port to check my fantasy teams when I can just as easily not pay a dime and check them on my laptop? =)

As for the PS4 vs. Xbox One debate, both systems look to be an improvement, but nothing shouts BUY ME NOW!!!!! That was my point.

[Dtrimpi87]

A european retail store let their internet ad slip early. Do the exchange rate and we have our price for the new system.

[Hitman84]

Originally Posted by Dtrimpi87

A european retail store let their internet ad slip early. Do the exchange rate and we have our price for the new system.

really means nothing IMO. amazon is offering pre-orders for ps4 games priced at $99 with a specific add saying that it's not the final price.

[AmericanMuscleCars]

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

360 to One?

it was .360 then they upgraded to 1.00 lol jk, but who knows what their thought process was or is, they are giving the ps4 a run for their money, especially actually showing the console and not just a stupid teaser of a sensor bar and a controller.

[AmericanMuscleCars]

Originally Posted by Dtrimpi87

A european retail store let their internet ad slip early. Do the exchange rate and we have our price for the new system.

ANNNNNNND I am almost positive that is the base model for $513 bucks. I don't know we will have to see but I am a die-hard ps3 fanboy and xbox is giving them a run for their money.

[Hitman84]

Originally Posted by Dtrimpi87

Don't you have a PlayStation fanboy forum you should be at?

Dude, you really have no place saying this considered you've DEFENDED every thing wrong with the new xbox.

[AmericanMuscleCars]

Originally Posted by Hitman84

Dude, you really have no place saying this considered you've DEFENDED every thing wrong with the new xbox.

BOOOOM go's the dynamite lol jk, I kid I kid.

[brantley847]

Ahhh, the nonsense has spread to even Camaro forums... I own both and plan on eventually owning both. I am not well off.. I am a pooooor, but I game most of my time off.

Both systems currently have identifiable flaws, same will apply with this next generation. I hate paying for service, yet Xbox live is fantastic when playing with a group of friends. Otherwise, it is absolutely a no better experience when I simply want to play Forza, Baseball or Madden... I have heard rumors that Microsoft wishes to eliminate any capability for resale of their games. I didn't see the launch, hopefully this rumor was squashed as false.

[Dtrimpi87]

Originally Posted by Hitman84

Dude, you really have no place saying this considered you've DEFENDED every thing wrong with the new xbox.

And you've done nothing but bash it. Their is nothing wrong with the new system.

[Mr_Draco]

Originally Posted by Dtrimpi87

Don't you have a PlayStation fanboy forum you should be at?

This remark is uncalled for. Just a childish remark made by someone who knows nothing and has nothing intelligent to say to rebuttal other posts.

I'm a true gamer, not a "fanboy". I love games no matter the system, Xbox, PS, or the Wii. I'm not short sighted nor narrow minded to the point to think that any one system is the greatest like you are.

Originally Posted by Dtrimpi87

Their is nothing wrong with the new system.

You're right, but there is things they could have done better, like the hardware. The Xbox will only be capable of 1.2 teraflops?! The 360 was capable of doing that. Shoot the PS3 is capable of 1.8 teraflops. It appears Microsoft has done nothing to improve the raw power for the Xbox One.

Also, I just read an article that said it has been CONFIRMED that 3 gigs of ram will be restricted for the operation of the Xbox operating system.

[PoorMansCamaro]

Originally Posted by Mindz

Exactly yhe reason I won't be upgrading. There's no need to spend money on a new console if I enjoy the current one. There's nothing insanely enticing that I MUST HAVE the new console.

My old system is broken, so I'll more than likely get this. Haven't played a game in over a year. Although I'll probably be using it more for the tv/fantasy/skype aspect of it, than gaming. lol Only games i'm looking forward to, are madden and forza.

Originally Posted by Mr_Draco

You're right, but there is things they could have done better, like the hardware. The Xbox will only be capable of 1.2 teraflops?! The 360 was capable of doing that. Shoot the PS3 is capable of 1.8 teraflops. It appears Microsoft has done nothing to improve the raw power for the Xbox One.

Also, I just read an article that said it has been CONFIRMED that 3 gigs of ram will be restricted for the operation of the Xbox operating system.

Yet, I bet the xbox will be way more streamlined. Xbox one has 3 operating systems. They need more gig because they plan on you being able to run multiple OS's at once. No loading time between going from one OS to the other. besides, there's only rumors of the ps4 ram, we really have no clue how much they are using.

[malave7567]

I don't understand the gripe about only have 8 GB of RAM. All games are still 32-bit, whether on a console or on PC. They can only use a max of 2 GB of RAM at any time. Having 8GB of RAM, 3GB to the OS's, 2GB to games (When they are running), and an excess of 3 GB for whatever else can run at the same time (Snap mode, or whatever?) seems just fine to me. Anyone who builds gaming PCs can usually tell you that anything over 8GB is overkill unless you're running video/photo-conversion software or design software (Photoshop/Video Editors/CAD software like SolidWorks, etc.).

That said, I'm still on the fence, but I'm leaning towards Xbox on this one. Especially since they could already show us the inside and out of their system and did not just have a spec sheet.

[PoorMansCamaro]

Interview on Gamespot.


is the console always connected?

So the box was designed as a connected device. We thought about people's worlds today. Whether it's on their phone, their PC, their tablet, people are always connected. And their experiences with it, things like Twitter, Facebook, Skype, [they] rely on a connection to the outside world. We're seeing more and more of that in gaming as well. All that said, we understand sometimes you lose connection. There's certainly functionality that happens in the box that if you lose a connection [it] shouldn't stop whether I'm playing a movie, playing a single-player game. So if you lose your connection, the box will continue to perform and you will be able to watch your movie, play your single-player game. We wanted to build a fault-tolerant system. That said, a lot of experiences are multiplayer in nature. Obviously, your multiplayer experiences aren't going to work if your Internet goes down; Skype stops working, Netflix stops working if the Internet goes down.


I have to ask about used games. Will the box support used games and how is that model going to work?

So we'll talk about some of the 'how' at a later date, but I will say that we understand the importance of the secondary market. The secondary market was important in the current generation. We designed Xbox One understanding secondary market would be important in the new generation as well. We'll share more details, but people should know that it is a design criteria for us on the new box.

I think it was mentioned that all new games have to be installed.

Yes.

Is there any kind of DRM or anything that's happening where you're prevented from playing a game, a single-player game even maybe, if you're offline?

So one of the advantages in the Xbox One generation, the reason we're looking at installing and understanding which games are yours and you own, is the ability for your games to roam with you. And you can go to a box and the box knows which games you have and you can take those games with you and move around. I think that's a real strong component of the platform and it obviously requires some local version of the game because you don't have to carry your disc around with you, as you're kind of bringing your content with you. So I think it's going to unlock a lot of capability for the gamer, much like they walk around with their gamerscore and their Live ID.

Given that all games need to be installed, is a 500GB [hard drive]…that doesn't seem very big. I'm assuming some of the games are going to be pretty huge now coming on Blu-rays.

We did a lot of testing; we looked at the content that's being created today and what our roadmap looked like in terms of content creation. One thing I'd say about content today is you see content being delivered at many different levels. You have big, disc-based games that come out, but you also see games that start more service-related; where they come out small and they grow as the person builds their experience. Our math says that the 500 gigs will be a lot of storage space for the gamer in terms of how much game local data that they will save. Obviously, the game is yours, so if you were to delete something off the hard drive, you could obviously always re-install something if [you] ran into a situation where you were running out of space. But our math, when we look at the number of games that somebody usually owns and the content they consume, we think the hard drive will be a nice hard drive for people.


Do I get to bring [my XBLA games] with me [to the Xbox One]?

Those games will continue to run on your Xbox 360 for as long as your Xbox 360 runs. The box is not backward compatible and we think for somebody who invests in a large digital library that you want to keep your [Xbox 360]. Keep that as a vibrant part of the ecosystem. That's why we've made sure that your identity, your friends, are constant between both platforms. You don't have a separate identity on Xbox One or [Xbox 360]; it's the same, you are you. My friend's network is the same on both boxes, my achievements are the same. So we think that service component is an important component to keep constant across both devices.

So presumably you anticipate there being sort of a lot of support for the [Xbox 360] in terms of new XBLA releases and stuff…

I think the [Xbox 360] is going to be very vibrant for many years. In fact, we have a huge, I think it's huge, [Xbox 360] announcement for E3 that I keep wanting to talk about, but I can't. I think it will surprise people. I loved what we did with Minecraft; bring Minecraft to the box; six million units later it's kind of a beast. I think there's a lot of life in the [Xbox 360] for years to come.

Is the Xbox One being designed to support things like free-to-play games and maybe like episodic games and stuff like that?

We as a first-party think it's important that we push the boundaries of business models and delivery. We launched free-to-play games on console this fall (Happy Wars), and we've had some success there and we'll continue that flow of content. The business model, the content distribution is an evolution in gaming. People are playing games on all kinds of devices today; on phones, on tablets, on PCs, on consoles. And you see different kinds of business models; games that start small and kind of grow as a service and I think the Xbox One and its capabilities and the strength of Live on the backend will bring the television screen into that same capability that people see on their other devices.

Am I right in saying the Xbox One will only work when the Kinect is attached to it?

Yes.

I had a weird experience with my original Kinect where I was playing Fable II and I had no idea that my Kinect was doing anything at that time. And so I'm in the world; I see one of those little bubbles representing someone I know.

We call them Orbs (laughs).

And I start talking to my girlfriend who was with me at the time and I mention the guy who I'm seeing in the game and he comes out of the speakers and he can hear everything I'm saying because the Kinect is plugged in. Are there going to be options to kind of turn off all of this?

You definitely will have the software capability to turn off all the capabilities of Kinect. We want to put the gamer in control. And privacy. The box data information that collects is your data; it stays with you. You are in control of what you want to be collected. Game developers will obviously enable certain features and you'll be alerted when certain things are happening. Putting the gamer in control is really important.

With the new [Kinect], I had the demo earlier, and it seems like it's tracking an awful lot. While I'm playing a game, you're tracking my heart rate, my attention. Am I looking at the screen? Am I distracted? Am I smiling?

We should be careful in how we characterize those features. Those are features that are available to game developers. You think about emotion or where your head's looking; these are tools that a game designer can use in developing the game and creating more immersion. The amount of capabilities in Kinect has grown tremendously. But the data that it's collecting is really specific to the experience that you're in.

It seems like the kind of data that could be theoretically collected and then used to influence [future developers] for a sequel or something.

I won't just focus on Kinect because I think about how far somebody gets in a game, where the pinch-points are, where do people fail. All those analytic capabilities are really important to us in designing future iterations of games and finding out what people love. That capability to the developer is really important as they try to get better at their craft and make better experience. But we obviously want to put the gamer in control of what data gets shared.

The Xbox One launches later this year alongside the PlayStation 4. Microsoft will ship 15 exclusive titles for the platform during its first 12 months. Eight of these games will be all-new franchises. For more, check out GameSpot's Xbox One news hub.

[Jay_LHD3]

Originally Posted by PoorMansCamaro

Interview on Gamespot.

The Xbox One launches later this year alongside the PlayStation 4. Microsoft will ship 15 exclusive titles for the platform during its first 12 months. Eight of these games will be all-new franchises. For more, check out GameSpot's Xbox One news hub.

I'll be waiting to see what the 15 exclusive titles are. Maybe we'll see more at E3. Thinking back to my previous console purchases it has always been about the games. PS2 purchase was for Grand Turismo. Xbox 360 for Halo.

Right now I'm more excited to play Battlefield 4 on PC than watching TV via a Xbox One.