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sasquash1984 · 06-11-2013, 12:14 AM

As previously rumoured, the Xbox One will include technology designed to prevent a disc being used on more than one console without payment. This DRM is required, Microsoft argues, because the Xbox One allows games to be installed to the hard drive and played without the disc while the Xbox 360 required the game disc to be in the drive at all times; without DRM, there would be nothing to stop someone buying a game, installing it and then selling the game on or giving it away while still keeping his or her installed copy.

The good news is that Microsoft has confirmed that gamers will still be able to sell their games second-hand, trading them in for credit or cash as before. The bad news is that this only applies to an as-yet unreleased list of pre-approved retailers, which will not include smaller, independent gaming shops. These retailers will have to participate in a Microsoft programme for second-hand sales, and while the company states it won't be charging a fee it will require the retailers to have a system in place for deauthorising a traded-in game from a user's original console to make it ready for resale to the next user.

For those who borrow or lend games from or to their friends, there's more good news: Microsoft says that you will be able to give your disc-based games to friends without having to pay a fee, having deauthorised the game from your Xbox One console yourself. Sadly, there's also the bad news: this transfer of ownership can happen only once per game. Once you've ceded ownership of the title to a friend, that game is then locked to their console forever and cannot be transferred again. Games can also only be transferred to people on your Xbox Live Friends List, and then only to gamers who have been in your list for at least 30 days.

Microsoft has offered some carrot to go with its DRM stick, however. The Xbox One game library will be shared between up to ten family members, with family able to play from a central reserve of installed Xbox One games on any console regardless of location. As with the Xbox 360, all Xbox One games installed on a console are also accessible to all users of that console - even if they don't sign in to Xbox Live.

With Microsoft clarifying its stance on second-hand gaming, it only remains for Sony, which has been the focus of a protest on Twitter regarding its own plans for the market, to issue a statement of its own.

mikeyg36 · 06-11-2013, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by sasquash1984

already pre ordered my xbox one with forza 5......i would get a ps 4 but i never played my ps3 but for 4 games and they were all sony exclusives. been playing xbox one ah ha since 2003 till now with 360 for the past 5 years, xbox has gotten better then when they first launched back in 03 the used game thing sux but im sure if not alot of people buy it they will change that or crash and burn

My prediction is that it will change when the PS4 pre orders pull exponentially ahead of the Ones' (that is such a stupid name).

Steve Dallas · 06-11-2013, 12:17 AM

I'm thinking I'll go from my PS3 to a PS4. Why? Because of this.

http://www.ign.com/videos/2013/06/10...ony-conference

sasquash1984 · 06-11-2013, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by mikeyg36

My prediction is that it will change when the PS4 pre orders pull exponentially ahead of the Ones' (that is such a stupid name).

I do see that happening, I don't trade or borrow games with friends so I don't care, renting games Is what I question. I am looking forward to after almost 20 years killer instinct coming back

mikeyg36 · 06-11-2013, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by sasquash1984

I do see that happening, I don't trade or borrow games with friends so I don't care, renting games Is what I question. I am looking forward to after almost 20 years killer instinct coming back

I don't usually borrow used games, but I'm constantly sharing games with friends. There was also a time last year when my Internet went out for 4 days and I played all the way through AC2. I can't do that with 24 hour check ins. I just can't support MS DRMing the shit out of gaming.

sasquash1984 · 06-11-2013, 12:29 AM

I just don't see their strict rules holding up, not everyone has Internet or kids parents may not let them get on the internet

mikeyg36 · 06-11-2013, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by sasquash1984

I just don't see their strict rules holding up, not everyone has Internet or kids parents may not let them get on the internet

They will rethink it by next week

I'm sure MS execs shit their pants during that Sony press conference.

truth411 · 06-11-2013, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by sasquash1984

I do see that happening, I don't trade or borrow games with friends so I don't care, renting games Is what I question. I am looking forward to after almost 20 years killer instinct coming back

Sorry to tell you this bro, but renting games is never going to be supported despite what MS is currently saying more will be revealed at gamescon I think.. The big issue is the PS4 is $100 cheaper, more powerful and easier and simpler to develop games for. This mean potentially better looking multiplatform games and absolutely better looking exclusives. M.S. got there work cut out for them... Sony completely shat on them at E3.

LIM3 · 06-11-2013, 02:10 AM

I hate the new Xbox and how it's used once capability but damn ! Dead rising 3 looks good.

Dtrimpi87 · 06-11-2013, 02:17 AM

Pre ordered my Xbox One tonight.

kjkjr27 · 06-11-2013, 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by sasquash1984

I just don't see their strict rules holding up, not everyone has Internet or kids parents may not let them get on the internet

I agree, they HAVE to change them or else they will literally not sell anything.

Dtrimpi87 · 06-11-2013, 02:24 AM

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I agree, they HAVE to change them or else they will literally not sell anything.

They won't sell anything if they don't change their rules huh? Funny, Amazon announced their preorders are almost sold out.

mikeyg36 · 06-11-2013, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Dtrimpi87

They won't sell anything if they don't change their rules huh? Funny, Amazon announced their preorders are almost sold out.

They should begin opening back up as people switch them to PS4 orders.

kjkjr27 · 06-11-2013, 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Dtrimpi87

They won't sell anything if they don't change their rules huh? Funny, Amazon announced their preorders are almost sold out.

Just wait...people love the newest thing but I wouldn't be surprised after a couple of months the PS4 will be very hard to find while people won't be able to sell their slightly used Xbox One.

Of course this is my opinion, think I'm allowed to have one?

06-11-2013, 12:14 AM	#197
sasquash1984 502 RWHP N/A Drives: The yeti Join Date: May 2009 Location: Saginaw/ Ft Worth TX Posts: 3,085 View My Garage	As previously rumoured, the Xbox One will include technology designed to prevent a disc being used on more than one console without payment. This DRM is required, Microsoft argues, because the Xbox One allows games to be installed to the hard drive and played without the disc while the Xbox 360 required the game disc to be in the drive at all times; without DRM, there would be nothing to stop someone buying a game, installing it and then selling the game on or giving it away while still keeping his or her installed copy. The good news is that Microsoft has confirmed that gamers will still be able to sell their games second-hand, trading them in for credit or cash as before. The bad news is that this only applies to an as-yet unreleased list of pre-approved retailers, which will not include smaller, independent gaming shops. These retailers will have to participate in a Microsoft programme for second-hand sales, and while the company states it won't be charging a fee it will require the retailers to have a system in place for deauthorising a traded-in game from a user's original console to make it ready for resale to the next user. For those who borrow or lend games from or to their friends, there's more good news: Microsoft says that you will be able to give your disc-based games to friends without having to pay a fee, having deauthorised the game from your Xbox One console yourself. Sadly, there's also the bad news: this transfer of ownership can happen only once per game. Once you've ceded ownership of the title to a friend, that game is then locked to their console forever and cannot be transferred again. Games can also only be transferred to people on your Xbox Live Friends List, and then only to gamers who have been in your list for at least 30 days. Microsoft has offered some carrot to go with its DRM stick, however. The Xbox One game library will be shared between up to ten family members, with family able to play from a central reserve of installed Xbox One games on any console regardless of location. As with the Xbox 360, all Xbox One games installed on a console are also accessible to all users of that console - even if they don't sign in to Xbox Live. With Microsoft clarifying its stance on second-hand gaming, it only remains for Sony, which has been the focus of a protest on Twitter regarding its own plans for the market, to issue a statement of its own. __________________ factory motor factory trans, Gpi ss4 cam stock heads ported and milled, full exhaust, circle d 5c 4000 triple disk, 3:91 rear end with posi mod, cai, bmr derlin rear diff bushins, bmr derlin cradle bushins, bmr trailing arms, toe rods with bushings, and bmr anti extreme sway bar. Weld rt-s 17x5 fronts and 17X10 rears on mickey thompson et street r's

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sasquash1984 502 RWHP N/A Drives: The yeti Join Date: May 2009 Location: Saginaw/ Ft Worth TX Posts: 3,085 View My Garage	I just don't see their strict rules holding up, not everyone has Internet or kids parents may not let them get on the internet __________________ factory motor factory trans, Gpi ss4 cam stock heads ported and milled, full exhaust, circle d 5c 4000 triple disk, 3:91 rear end with posi mod, cai, bmr derlin rear diff bushins, bmr derlin cradle bushins, bmr trailing arms, toe rods with bushings, and bmr anti extreme sway bar. Weld rt-s 17x5 fronts and 17X10 rears on mickey thompson et street r's

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