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FenwickHockey65 · 06-24-2013, 08:31 AM

2014 Cadillac XTS Packs Twin Turbo Power
New V-6 engine option produces 410 horsepower
General Motors

June 24, 2013

DETROIT – Cadillac will add a new option to its XTS luxury sedan: More power and torque. Starting in August, the all-new Cadillac Twin Turbo V6 will go into production as an optional engine for the 2014 XTS.

The new Cadillac Twin Turbo V6 is also a signature feature of the upcoming all-new 2014 CTS luxury performance sedan. In the XTS, the twin turbo will produce an SAE-certified 410 horsepower (306 kW) and 369 lb-ft of torque (500 Nm), making it one of the most power-dense six-cylinder engines among luxury cars. The engine delivers 105 lb-ft more torque over the standard V-6 from1900 to 5600 rpm, providing seemingly endless torque for vehicle responsiveness.

“The addition of the new Cadillac Twin Turbo expands and elevates the XTS luxury sedan,” said Bob Ferguson, vice president Global Cadillac. “This is a compelling enhancement to what is already one of the most technically advanced sedans in our history.”

In both the CTS and XTS product lines, the twin turbo will be the centerpiece of a new model offering called Vsport. The new Vsport is inspired by and slotted “underneath” Cadillac’s elite high-performance V-Series models. Vsport includes the best-performing technical elements inside the “regular” car line in a single model, headlined by Twin Turbo engine.

The new Cadillac Twin Turbo is a comprehensive upgrade to the 3.6L dual overhead cam V6 that is standard in the XTS in the U.S. market. Almost every component is unique, including:

All-new cylinder block casting
Strengthened connecting rods
Machined, domed aluminum pistons with top steel ring carrier for greater strength
10.2:1 compression ratio
Patented, integrated charge air cooler system with low-volume air ducts
Two turbochargers producing more than 12 pounds of boost (80 kPa)
Vacuum-actuated wastegates with electronic control valves
All-new direct injection fuel system
Tuned air inlet and outlet resonators, aluminum cam covers and other features that contribute to quietness and smoothness.

The cylinder heads are also unique. They feature a high-tumble intake port design that enhances the motion of the air charge for a more-efficient burn when it is mixed with the direct-injected fuel and ignited in the combustion chamber.

Pricing for the 2014 XTS starts at $45,525, including destination fees, unchanged from 2013, with standard equipment including the 3.6L V6 engine that makes 306 hp, CUE, intelligent brake assist and Magnetic Ride Control. Three option packages are available: Luxury, Premium and Platinum Collections.

The XTS Vsport model will be offered only in the up-level Premium and Platinum Collections. In addition to the twin turbo engine, Vsport offers upgraded 20-inch wheels and a unique grille, with pricing starting at $63,020 including destination fees.

mikeyg36 · 06-24-2013, 09:42 AM

That price is a joke. Good luck selling that.

FenwickHockey65 · 06-24-2013, 10:05 AM

An AWD Platinum XTS already starts at $61k. It's not that far-fetched.

This is a new Cadillac folks. You can't expect to play with BMW and Mercedes when you're too scared to price your vehicles accordingly.

Cmicasa the Great XvX · 06-24-2013, 10:13 AM

Pricing seems a bit cheap to me.. In this vehicle U will be able to out-drive the LS460 with more torque and power. The luxurious amenities in it are to die for already.. the 2014 XTS models gets quite a few upgrades in the interior as well. At $63K this still comes in at $9K less than that Toyota LOAFER. Of course it gets a pass because it's RWD based... Of course the people that bitch about the XTS being FWD based are the exact people that can't buy the car anyway.. not new at least, and have more than likely not spent anytime in one and certainly not driving one.

Personally.. I could see this as a great alternative to the CTS-VSport if I wanted a larger car with a back-seat U could live in. My biggest complaint is that I really don't see why they needed to call it "V-Sport" just to mimic BMW's "M-Sport" or Lexus "F-Sport." They should have made it simply a STANDARD engine on the Platinum and a optional one on the Premium.. raising the Platinum price by $3K and making the option a $4K option on the Premium

Some will cry about brand dilution or "what's the point of the... " well.. to them I have to point at the new direction of the Benz, Audi, and BMW brands. I would ask if Cadillac can't have a two prong approach to larger Luxo Sedans then why are those aforementioned brands getting a pass with the 5series and 6series Grand..; or the E-Class, and CLS... ; how about the A6 and A7? The rules always seem different for GM.

mikeyg36 · 06-24-2013, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

An AWD Platinum XTS already starts at $61k. It's not that far-fetched.

This is a new Cadillac folks. You can't expect to play with BMW and Mercedes when you're too scared to price your vehicles accordingly.

This car doesn't compete with any Merc or BMW. Not to mention that it's still a FWD based platform. The ATS and CTS are great cars that represent the new Cadillac, and they bring the fight to Germany. The XTS is a glorified Impala for 70+ year olds.

FenwickHockey65 · 06-24-2013, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by mikeyg36

This car doesn't compete with any Merc or BMW. Not to mention that it's still a FWD based platform. The ATS and CTS are great cars that represent the new Cadillac, and they bring the fight to Germany. The XTS is a glorified Impala for 70+ year olds.

It's a stopgap measure. Would you rather them keep producing the DTS?

And have you been in an XTS? It's just as nice, if not nicer than a LOT of German makes.

Seriously if you're shocked by the pricing on this car the flagship is going to blow your mind. We'll be talking six digits by that point.

Cmicasa the Great XvX · 06-24-2013, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by mikeyg36

This car doesn't compete with any Merc or BMW. Not to mention that it's still a FWD based platform. The ATS and CTS are great cars that represent the new Cadillac, and they bring the fight to Germany. The XTS is a glorified Impala for 70+ year olds.

As a Cadillac owner I think that type of logic is seriously FLAWED. I also kno several people right here in Owings Mils/Hunt Valley/Pikesville, MD who have traded in their S-Class for that "Glorified Impala."

Come to think of it.. the XTS was out two years before the Impala.. and as of today has sold 50X as many. Seems to me the Impala would be a DOWNGRADED XTS

Cmicasa the Great XvX · 06-24-2013, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

It's a stopgap measure. Would you rather them keep producing the DTS?

And have you been in an XTS? It's just as nice, if not nicer than a LOT of German makes.

Seriously if you're shocked by the pricing on this car the flagship is going to blow your mind. We'll be talking six digits by that point.

If U are talking the "LTS" then I have hear more of a starting price in the $70K range.. STARTING but going easily into the $150K range.

shaffe · 06-24-2013, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by mikeyg36

This car doesn't compete with any Merc or BMW. Not to mention that it's still a FWD based platform. The ATS and CTS are great cars that represent the new Cadillac, and they bring the fight to Germany. The XTS is a glorified Impala for 70+ year olds.

Thats kind of my view on the XTS as well. The ATS and CTS are drop dead gorgeous, fun sporty cars. The XTS to me looks like a bloated balloon. The CTS and ATS to me show the future of cadillac and how they are committed to turning out amazing cars and then comes the XTS which just is blah, one of my neighbors at work has one and its just not impressive to me.

FenwickHockey65 · 06-24-2013, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by shaffe

Thats kind of my view on the XTS as well. The ATS and CTS are drop dead gorgeous, fun sporty cars. The XTS to me looks like a bloated balloon. The CTS and ATS to me show the future of cadillac and how they are committed to turning out amazing cars and then comes the XTS which just is blah, one of my neighbors at work has one and its just not impressive to me.

...XTS came BEFORE ATS and CTS.

Hilariously enough all the interior tech in ATS, CTS, and SRX is derived from what debuted in XTS.

Cmicasa the Great XvX · 06-24-2013, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

...XTS came BEFORE ATS and CTS.

Hilariously enough all the interior tech in ATS, CTS, and SRX is derived from what debuted in XTS.

I really think had the XTS just simply been announced as XWD.. a lot of the hate would have been killed. Cadillac would have had to add in that the XWD was tuned to be RWD biased

mikeyg36 · 06-24-2013, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

It's a stopgap measure. Would you rather them keep producing the DTS?

And have you been in an XTS? It's just as nice, if not nicer than a LOT of German makes.

Seriously if you're shocked by the pricing on this car the flagship is going to blow your mind. We'll be talking six digits by that point.

Yeah I've been in the XTS, and then I got in an Impala and I can't understand why someone would spend extra on the XTS over the Impala. I'm shocked by the pricing consider what you're getting. As long as the flagship is a great car that competes I think the price will be worth it.

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Originally Posted by Cmicasa the Great XvX

As a Cadillac owner I think that type of logic is seriously FLAWED. I also kno several people right here in Owings Mils/Hunt Valley/Pikesville, MD who have traded in their S-Class for that "Glorified Impala."

Come to think of it.. the XTS was out two years before the Impala.. and as of today has sold 50X as many. Seems to me the Impala would be a DOWNGRADED XTS

How's it flawed? You're getting a worse car than an E class for the same money.

FenwickHockey65 · 06-24-2013, 10:45 AM

Oh please. Everyone here knows I adore the Impala but the XTS's interior is ridiculously nicer. CUE alone establishes that.

Cmicasa the Great XvX · 06-24-2013, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by mikeyg36

How's it flawed? You're getting a worse car than an E class for the same money.

I guess the first thing U would have to do is enlighten me on how this car is WORSE than the E-Class outside of the E63AMG.. which is really more of a CTS-V competitor, especially now.

The interior refinements in the XTS rival almost every Eclass I can think of and in reality rival those from the PRE-2014 S-Class with exception to the DESIGNO ones.

With the only real deficiency (HP) now taken care of.. the XTS is a viable LS and A8 alternative in most minds who would actually be shopping for this sized luxo car.

I also have always had issue with Cadillac being looked down on because it shares with other GM brands.. even when those things being shared are EXCELLENT even in the under-brands. IF Benz/BMW had "under-"brands I can bet good money they would be sharing things just like GM and VW do in their upper brands. Personally, after experience with BMW, and second hand experience with Benz... I would buy a BUICK Lacrosse over many of their offering in this size category. More so than in any other line I believe that the German offerings are more about BADGE than real superiority in Engineering these days. For one.. GREAT engineering means "the shit don't break..." just for pulling outta the garage

06-24-2013, 08:31 AM	#1
FenwickHockey65 General Motors Aficionado Drives: 2023 GMC Canyon, 2020 Colorado Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 37,371 View My Garage	GM Announces Pricing for Twin-Turbocharged 2014 Cadillac XTS Vsport 2014 Cadillac XTS Packs Twin Turbo Power New V-6 engine option produces 410 horsepower General Motors June 24, 2013 DETROIT – Cadillac will add a new option to its XTS luxury sedan: More power and torque. Starting in August, the all-new Cadillac Twin Turbo V6 will go into production as an optional engine for the 2014 XTS. The new Cadillac Twin Turbo V6 is also a signature feature of the upcoming all-new 2014 CTS luxury performance sedan. In the XTS, the twin turbo will produce an SAE-certified 410 horsepower (306 kW) and 369 lb-ft of torque (500 Nm), making it one of the most power-dense six-cylinder engines among luxury cars. The engine delivers 105 lb-ft more torque over the standard V-6 from1900 to 5600 rpm, providing seemingly endless torque for vehicle responsiveness. “The addition of the new Cadillac Twin Turbo expands and elevates the XTS luxury sedan,” said Bob Ferguson, vice president Global Cadillac. “This is a compelling enhancement to what is already one of the most technically advanced sedans in our history.” In both the CTS and XTS product lines, the twin turbo will be the centerpiece of a new model offering called Vsport. The new Vsport is inspired by and slotted “underneath” Cadillac’s elite high-performance V-Series models. Vsport includes the best-performing technical elements inside the “regular” car line in a single model, headlined by Twin Turbo engine. The new Cadillac Twin Turbo is a comprehensive upgrade to the 3.6L dual overhead cam V6 that is standard in the XTS in the U.S. market. Almost every component is unique, including: All-new cylinder block casting Strengthened connecting rods Machined, domed aluminum pistons with top steel ring carrier for greater strength 10.2:1 compression ratio Patented, integrated charge air cooler system with low-volume air ducts Two turbochargers producing more than 12 pounds of boost (80 kPa) Vacuum-actuated wastegates with electronic control valves All-new direct injection fuel system Tuned air inlet and outlet resonators, aluminum cam covers and other features that contribute to quietness and smoothness. The cylinder heads are also unique. They feature a high-tumble intake port design that enhances the motion of the air charge for a more-efficient burn when it is mixed with the direct-injected fuel and ignited in the combustion chamber. Pricing for the 2014 XTS starts at $45,525, including destination fees, unchanged from 2013, with standard equipment including the 3.6L V6 engine that makes 306 hp, CUE, intelligent brake assist and Magnetic Ride Control. Three option packages are available: Luxury, Premium and Platinum Collections. The XTS Vsport model will be offered only in the up-level Premium and Platinum Collections. In addition to the twin turbo engine, Vsport offers upgraded 20-inch wheels and a unique grille, with pricing starting at $63,020 including destination fees. __________________ 2023 GMC Canyon Elevation 2020 Chevrolet Colorado W/T Extended Cab (State-issued)

06-24-2013, 10:05 AM	#3
FenwickHockey65 General Motors Aficionado Drives: 2023 GMC Canyon, 2020 Colorado Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 37,371 View My Garage	An AWD Platinum XTS already starts at $61k. It's not that far-fetched. This is a new Cadillac folks. You can't expect to play with BMW and Mercedes when you're too scared to price your vehicles accordingly. __________________ 2023 GMC Canyon Elevation 2020 Chevrolet Colorado W/T Extended Cab (State-issued)

06-24-2013, 10:45 AM	#13
FenwickHockey65 General Motors Aficionado Drives: 2023 GMC Canyon, 2020 Colorado Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 37,371 View My Garage	Oh please. Everyone here knows I adore the Impala but the XTS's interior is ridiculously nicer. CUE alone establishes that. __________________ 2023 GMC Canyon Elevation 2020 Chevrolet Colorado W/T Extended Cab (State-issued)

06-24-2013, 09:42 AM	#2
mikeyg36 Drives: 2015 Z/28 #533 Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: NY Posts: 6,732	That price is a joke. Good luck selling that.

06-24-2013, 10:13 AM	#4
Cmicasa the Great XvX Account Suspended Drives: 07Taho, 11CamaroRS, 12CTSV Coupe Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: MD Posts: 705	Pricing seems a bit cheap to me.. In this vehicle U will be able to out-drive the LS460 with more torque and power. The luxurious amenities in it are to die for already.. the 2014 XTS models gets quite a few upgrades in the interior as well. At $63K this still comes in at $9K less than that Toyota LOAFER. Of course it gets a pass because it's RWD based... Of course the people that bitch about the XTS being FWD based are the exact people that can't buy the car anyway.. not new at least, and have more than likely not spent anytime in one and certainly not driving one. Personally.. I could see this as a great alternative to the CTS-VSport if I wanted a larger car with a back-seat U could live in. My biggest complaint is that I really don't see why they needed to call it "V-Sport" just to mimic BMW's "M-Sport" or Lexus "F-Sport." They should have made it simply a STANDARD engine on the Platinum and a optional one on the Premium.. raising the Platinum price by $3K and making the option a $4K option on the Premium Some will cry about brand dilution or "what's the point of the... " well.. to them I have to point at the new direction of the Benz, Audi, and BMW brands. I would ask if Cadillac can't have a two prong approach to larger Luxo Sedans then why are those aforementioned brands getting a pass with the 5series and 6series Grand..; or the E-Class, and CLS... ; how about the A6 and A7? The rules always seem different for GM.