will curb weight change your buying decision?

[KarFan]

It's interesting to read back to where people thought or hoped the weight would be and where it ended up.

[thejbyrd]

Is it just me or does it seem that we've all waited sooooo long for this and all I keep seeing are threads about minor crap deciding the fate of your decision,people groaning about being pushed back a week or two because of some issues, and "Loyalists" second guessing the car? It's a Camaro! It's a brand new car so the're are going to be problems ,not everything is going to be perfect. And further more, IT'S BACK!!! So, stop complaining about meticulous things and be friggin' happy that the car is here and even better than we all suspected at the beginning. Bang for your buck is a total understatement regardless if you go LS or SS/RS. Be happy people! end rant.

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by KarFan

It's interesting to read back to where people thought or hoped the weight would be and where it ended up.

found my guestimate:

Originally Posted by DGthe3

I'm thinking that it will be close to 3750 for the base V8. That is fine with me because I look at weight through power to weight ratios. We know it will handle fine because of the 4000 lbs G8 GT (and related cars). So I'm not too worried.

Also, where do you guys get the impression that he has bad info? Its been said that the Camaro will be under 4000 lbs and we here at camaro5 keep saying that it will be 3750 lbs (+/- 2%). Hearing that it is likely to be over that weight isn't out of the question, afterall it could be 3751 lbs for all we know.

I wasn't too far off ...

[hellraiser]

4000lbs...the ricer's are going to eat it up..

[Silver Streak]

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by hellraiser

4000lbs...the ricer's are going to eat it up..

Yup, 140 hp in a 2700 lb Civic will absolutely destroy a Camaro SS.

[hellraiser]

i test drove an 07 sti with a few mods done.....man oh man one quick mofo...and proven track car..I would hate to pull up in a new ss to be schooled by rice, straight line or track..

[thejbyrd]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

Yup, 140 hp in a 2700 lb Civic will absolutely destroy a Camaro SS.

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by hellraiser

i test drove an 07 sti with a few mods done.....man oh man one quick mofo...and proven track car..I would hate to pull up in a new ss to be schooled by rice, straight line or track..

"a few mods ... " let me guess, upped the boost? Lets go stock for stock, modded to modded and keep things fair. I could probably put 'a few mods' on my car and surprise some SS owners too. The WRX STi? I don't know much about the older ones, but the new ones seem to be heavy for the size, and not exactly cheap either.

WRX STi
3395 lbs
$34 995

Fuel economy leaves a lot to be desired too, 17/25? Thats rougly what the 400 hp SS has while weighing a couple hundred lbs more.

[hellraiser]

DG there the same price as an ss here in the great tundra where we shipp the ss's, the 08 and 09 sti are actually lighter than the older ones, 700 lbs is a big diff on 1/4 mile run or tracking..The car i test drove had a catback and filter. rest was stock..this car railed on corners. bosst was stock.

[BackinBlackSS/RS]

Well considering most of the times the cars will be on the street and when an STI pulls up to an SS its gonna look like crap in comparison. As far as performance the SS will hand it it's ass stock. Once you go adding crap, then anything can beat anything.

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by hellraiser

DG there the same price as an ss here in the great tundra where we shipp the ss's, the 08 and 09 sti are actually lighter than the older ones, 700 lbs is a big diff on 1/4 mile run or tracking..The car i test drove had a catback and filter. rest was stock..this car railed on corners. bosst was stock.

Never said the STi wasn't fast ... but that doesn't mean it will be faster than the Camaro. The new ones weigh 3395, lesser models weigh less. I got that from Subaru's website, same with the price. Speaking of which, I typically use US prices on the general sections of the board here. I switch to Canadian in the Canada section, less confusing for our friends to the south.

Anyway, you end up with a car that weighs about 10% less than the Camaro with about 70% the hp. I know which one I'm putting my money on. If you want to close that gap, a couple of bold ons are not going to do it.

[hellraiser]

Originally Posted by BackinBlackSS/RS

Well considering most of the times the cars will be on the street and when an STI pulls up to an SS its gonna look like crap in comparison. As far as performance the SS will hand it it's ass stock. Once you go adding crap, then anything can beat anything.

i agree the ss is quite the poser car, and if thats what your into all the best, I am more into trackdays and 1/4 mile run.

[Mosher]

Originally Posted by hellraiser

i agree the ss is quite the poser car, and if thats what your into all the best, I am more into trackdays and 1/4 mile run.

I'm sorry, there is nothing "Posing" about a 13.0(Hotrod got 12.9) 1/4, 0-60 in 4.7(I believe 4.6 was achieved), Skidpad has ranged from .88 to .93. Atleast that's the way I see it. Can those speeds be attained with less power and less weight? Sure. I can do that in my WRX with some Mods. But after driving this car around with a STI RA suspension straining my liver, being worried about the tranny packing it in, or the rear diff going, I am ready for a car that is affordable and can achieve all the above while being civil enough to drive and that doesn't look as Jeremy Clarkson himself said of the latest STI "A smashed Buttock". That's just how I see things.