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thahemp · 06-27-2013, 06:57 PM

I know those aren't dogs! Get some onions on there fool!

I think you get 8 credits to start off with. Just enough for your car, but we can share tune files and logs.

And upload tunes on HPT for analysis. That nugget right there is the only reason HPT is better than the others.

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Originally Posted by Mchlgrrsn

Not yet, but I do always seem to out grow what I have. Not to mention I don't think there is anything left to tune, this cars timing is advanced right up to the line of safe and not safe. Although tinkering around with fuel cut off during shifts and off throttle would be interesting. Ask me in a week or two. Lol.
This chiller won't let me advance timing, rather just let me keep the timing the CPU is pulling back due to high IAT .

You might be surprised garrison? I've seen some pretty ridiculous IATs out of the chillers. below ambient should let you advance timing.

I've seen you rolling around the meth threads too

. Besides it being a consumable... I don't see any problem with it.

Mchlgrrsn · 06-27-2013, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by thahemp

I've seen you rolling around the meth threads too

. Besides it being a consumable... I don't see any problem with it.

I went with the chiller as an alternative to meth. Believe it or not I have a tuner who doesn't like meth. I have come to the conclusion meth is awesome for centris and turbos. Maggie not so much, wouldn't hurt but not terribly effective.

Exsumis · 06-27-2013, 07:26 PM

Ive been think about putting some headers on my car, only thing that is really holding me back is that I hear you have to get a tune after you put headers on. I also plan on cutting the cats off when I put in headers so I would want something to get rid of my CEL for not having the cats. So, I guess my question is, will not having a tune damage my engine at all and if so would a hand held tuner/programmer work or would I have to go to a shop and get a tune? Basically, I am just wondering if I should save up and get headers and a tune all at once done at a shop, or put the headers on myself wait a month then drive a couple hundred miles and get a tune or use a programmer if there is no advantage?

Mchlgrrsn · 06-27-2013, 07:39 PM

You can put headers on a car and not tune them, it won't hurt anything. You may not gain much horsepower. To get good gains out out of headers you need to tune them. I am a big advocate of custom tuning versus canned tunes.

litle88 · 06-27-2013, 07:59 PM

Tune it when you are ready. You won't hurt anything but a custom dyno tune would be beneficial. No canned tunes for me either. What headers rue you thinking of?

Birm · 06-27-2013, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by litle88

Tune it when you are ready. You won't hurt anything but a custom dyno tune would be beneficial. No canned tunes for me either. What headers rue you thinking of?

It doesn't hurt a thing. You will still have gains, you may or may not (more then likely will) get a CEL but thats to be expected and is not a big deal unless it really bothers you.

And lastly, CUSTOM tune your car when you are ready.

Texas2SS · 06-27-2013, 08:27 PM

Okay guys, I need some honest and beneficial opinions.

My car is all back together and is in need of a tune, my problem is I am in B.F.E. what are my options? I have no problem doing as many data logs as needed to get it right, or should I just load it up and make the 12 hour drive?

Mods-
Cam
Heads
FAST
Vararam
Long tubes w/ cat less exhaust
UDP
3:91 gears
Nitrous (150 shot) with 116

And.....go!

litle88 · 06-27-2013, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Texas2SS

Okay guys, I need some honest and beneficial opinions.

My car is all back together and is in need of a tune, my problem is I am in B.F.E. what are my options? I have no problem doing as many data logs as needed to get it right, or should I just load it up and make the 12 hour drive?

Mods-
Cam
Heads
FAST
Vararam
Long tubes w/ cat less exhaust
UDP
3:91 gears
Nitrous (150 shot) with 116

And.....go!

12 hr drive where bud?

Exsumis · 06-27-2013, 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by litle88

Tune it when you are ready. You won't hurt anything but a custom dyno tune would be beneficial. No canned tunes for me either. What headers rue you thinking of?

Okay, custom tune was what I was leaning towards, It just might be a month or two before I can make the trip to a city where I can get one done. I was looking at Kooks originally but now that Pfadt has the Tri y headers I might go with those. I just got the Borla S type exhaust this past week and Im hoping the two sound real good together.

litle88 · 06-27-2013, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Exsumis

Okay, custom tune was what I was leaning towards, It just might be a month or two before I can make the trip to a city where I can get one done. I was looking at Kooks originally but now that Pfadt has the Tri y headers I might go with those. I just got the Borla S type exhaust this past week and Im hoping the two sound real good together.

Contact Birm or Matt at FSP! A sponsor here they sell Pfadt if I'm not mistaken. Good guys over there.

Texas2SS · 06-27-2013, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by litle88

12 hr drive where bud?

To Houston, where it was originally tuned.

Birm · 06-27-2013, 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exsumis

Okay, custom tune was what I was leaning towards, It just might be a month or two before I can make the trip to a city where I can get one done. I was looking at Kooks originally but now that Pfadt has the Tri y headers I might go with those. I just got the Borla S type exhaust this past week and Im hoping the two sound real good together.

Got the Tri-Ys rolling in bro. Let me know when you are ready. Running a special on preorders right now too, let me know if you are looking for catted or uncatted (offroad pipes) and I will pm you price-not allowed to post in a "nonsale add"..............

CHMSC · 06-27-2013, 09:07 PM

I thought with LT's and no tune it would be hard n the valves since it throws off the air/fuel mixture?

axis · 06-27-2013, 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Texas2SS

Okay guys, I need some honest and beneficial opinions.

My car is all back together and is in need of a tune, my problem is I am in B.F.E. what are my options? I have no problem doing as many data logs as needed to get it right, or should I just load it up and make the 12 hour drive?

Mods-
Cam
Heads
FAST
Vararam
Long tubes w/ cat less exhaust
UDP
3:91 gears
Nitrous (150 shot) with 116

And.....go!

With that many changes, plus the nitrous, i'd go for a dyno session.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CHMSC

I thought with LT's and no tune it would be hard n the valves since it throws off the air/fuel mixture?

Not at all. There are guys who have been running LT's without a tune for well over a year.

06-27-2013, 07:39 PM	#3322
Mchlgrrsn Stroked and blown Drives: 2010 LS3 2SS Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Bridgewater, NJ Posts: 1,458 View My Garage	You can put headers on a car and not tune them, it won't hurt anything. You may not gain much horsepower. To get good gains out out of headers you need to tune them. I am a big advocate of custom tuning versus canned tunes. __________________ LME 416 LS3 shortblock/Callies Compstar 4340 4"crank/Callies 6.125 H beams rods/Wiesco 4.07 forged pistons/Cam Motion custom LS1/LME ported heads /maggie TVS2300/I West 8rib 10%OD /3.2 pulley/OD cog drive/JRE tensioner/ID850 /ADM dual fuel/Kooks LT 1 7/8/magna flow2.5 /cat delete/Roto Fab CAI /MGW short throw /SPEC super twin clutch/G Force built trans,carbon syncro rear shaft upgrade /DSS 9"single CF DS /Strange 3.70/31 spline trutrac/MT DR's/earls oil cooler /tuned KHC

06-27-2013, 07:59 PM	#3323
litle88 V8 Lounge member #2 Drives: 2001 Ws6 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Burbank,IL Posts: 6,373	Tune it when you are ready. You won't hurt anything but a custom dyno tune would be beneficial. No canned tunes for me either. What headers rue you thinking of? __________________ 2001 ws6, 40k miles, Ls3 416 stroker, short block built by PER the rest by me. LPE Ls3 heads milled to 12-1 comp, FAST 102, NW 102, kooks 2", dual DMH cutouts, Magnaflow C/B, BTR cam + springs. Full UMI suspension.

06-27-2013, 08:27 PM	#3325
Texas2SS Vroom Drives: Rarely Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: 620 Posts: 4,901 View My Garage	Okay guys, I need some honest and beneficial opinions. My car is all back together and is in need of a tune, my problem is I am in B.F.E. what are my options? I have no problem doing as many data logs as needed to get it right, or should I just load it up and make the 12 hour drive? Mods- Cam Heads FAST Vararam Long tubes w/ cat less exhaust UDP 3:91 gears Nitrous (150 shot) with 116 And.....go! __________________ *LSX, Boost, 9", TH400* xxxxhp - xxxtrq

06-27-2013, 09:07 PM	#3331
CHMSC ROAD COURSE JUNKIE Drives: 2012 SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Somewhere Posts: 4,868 View My Garage	I thought with LT's and no tune it would be hard n the valves since it throws off the air/fuel mixture? __________________

06-27-2013, 07:26 PM	#3321
Exsumis Drives: 2010 SS Camaro Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: WY Posts: 11	Ive been think about putting some headers on my car, only thing that is really holding me back is that I hear you have to get a tune after you put headers on. I also plan on cutting the cats off when I put in headers so I would want something to get rid of my CEL for not having the cats. So, I guess my question is, will not having a tune damage my engine at all and if so would a hand held tuner/programmer work or would I have to go to a shop and get a tune? Basically, I am just wondering if I should save up and get headers and a tune all at once done at a shop, or put the headers on myself wait a month then drive a couple hundred miles and get a tune or use a programmer if there is no advantage?