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infernostripes! · 07-10-2013, 04:11 PM

I need some help from the help desk, please. I'm looking into purchasing a used 3200 protorque TC (bought from jre/Ted) from a member on here. The mods he had when he got the TC was a vortec SC and 3.70 gears. I'm going to be adding a comp cam dur: 231 247 lift: 617 624, to my headers and intake. I talked to Ted and he said it would work in my car since its only a weekend car, but he also said it might be a little tight.

What do you all think?

Mydivorcegift · 07-10-2013, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by infernostripes!

I need some help from the help desk, please. I'm looking into purchasing a used 3200 protorque TC (bought from jre/Ted) from a member on here. The mods he had when he got the TC was a vortec SC and 3.70 gears. I'm going to be adding a comp cam dur: 231 247 lift: 617 624, to my headers and intake. I talked to Ted and he said it would work in my car since its only a weekend car, but he also said it might be a little tight.

What do you all think?

What is the STR of that particular converter?

TBone · 07-10-2013, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by wally mayfield

thanks tbone, do u know what 5-10 horsepower increase does for 1/4 mile performance?

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Originally Posted by MightymouseSS

Not a thing. Your splitting hairs on hp numbers that won't have much of any affect on a 4000lbs car.

Guys, correct me if I am wrong here but isn't rule of thumb that a 10 HP gain roughly translates to a tenth off of 1/4 mile times?

Kinda like a loss of 100 lbs. equates to the same thing?

Quotes taken from this thread...
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=306479

T.

Mydivorcegift · 07-10-2013, 04:43 PM

Also if you are buying a "used" converter it is always a good idea to send it back for a refreshing.

That being said...I would just put a couple extra hundred with it and get a converter and get one that matches your cam profile.

Mydivorcegift · 07-10-2013, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by TBone

Guys, correct me if I am wrong here but isn't rule of thumb that a 10 HP gain roughly translates to a tenth off of 1/4 mile times?

Kinda like a loss of 100 lbs. equates to the same thing?

That is correct.

I got into this with others in another thread. To say that you can feel a difference in a .10 improvement in the 1/4 mile is crazy.

Mchlgrrsn · 07-10-2013, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by TBone

Guys, correct me if I am wrong here but isn't rule of thumb that a 10 HP gain roughly translates to a tenth off of 1/4 mile times?

Kinda like a loss of 100 lbs. equates to the same thing?

Quotes taken from this thread...
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=306479

T.

.10 is assuming you launch and shift perfectly which rarely happens. You can get better gains from driving lessons and TIRES. Racing in 60 degree weather also helps big time. It's amazing what people think a CAI can do, it's just a small piece of a much bigger picture. I love when people talk about CAI improving times on other people's car but fail to mention the other mods on the car. ALA BJ1. Even the dyno testing is squirrelly because nobody drives with their hood open and a big giant fan blowing on the engine

thahemp · 07-10-2013, 05:58 PM

Zeke I finally ordered some of the connectors. I just ordered housing and pins for the male side of the A/C pressure sensor. That's the one that I'm not sure about. I'm gonna wire up a pigtail and make sure it works with the factory wiring before I go crazy building these cables. If this connector works out, then I just need to find connectors for whatever widebands we end up with, the female side, and a switch.

thahemp · 07-10-2013, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mydivorcegift

That is correct.

I got into this with others in another thread. To say that you can feel a difference in a .10 improvement in the 1/4 mile is crazy.

I can feel a .05 improvement in the standing mile. You guys must be broken or something.

Mydivorcegift · 07-10-2013, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by thahemp

I can feel a .05 improvement in the standing mile. You guys must be broken or something.

Lmao

TBone · 07-10-2013, 06:27 PM

Well I will say this, when I put my CAI on, the Halltech, it got me into the 12's and it was the only thing I changed. So at least I have my own proof.

T.

TBone · 07-10-2013, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mydivorcegift

That is correct.

I got into this with others in another thread. To say that you can feel a difference in a .10 improvement in the 1/4 mile is crazy.

Really, my butt dyno tells me all the time. Of course I am a little crazy.

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Originally Posted by Mchlgrrsn

.10 is assuming you launch and shift perfectly which rarely happens. You can get better gains from driving lessons and TIRES. Racing in 60 degree weather also helps big time. It's amazing what people think a CAI can do, it's just a small piece of a much bigger picture. I love when people talk about CAI improving times on other people's car but fail to mention the other mods on the car. ALA BJ1. Even the dyno testing is squirrelly because nobody drives with their hood open and a big giant fan blowing on the engine

If you need some lessons come on down, you could be the next contestant on "Learning how to get the best times out of your 1/4 mile run" Sponsored by KN and the Underhead Cam!!!!!

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Originally Posted by thahemp

I can feel a .05 improvement in the standing mile. You guys must be broken or something.

See, Hemp and I can feel it. What is wrong with you guys?

Of course I AM the only one on the V8 Fast List.

T.

Mchlgrrsn · 07-10-2013, 06:59 PM

Hahaha don't forget about my NOTSO supercharger. I do need lessons. I have been going to the track for the past 20 years in 14/15 second cars. One day soon I'm gonna drop a real nice slip on you guys.

litle88 · 07-10-2013, 07:45 PM

LOL!!

Hemp I also got my HPT in today! wifey just sent me pics and Matt sent me the credit info!!

I cant wait.....

Thats awesome, I hope the wiring works bud!

thahemp · 07-10-2013, 07:50 PM

I do too. I'll have to find another 5V circuit to take over if these connectors aren't right. Either that or cut/splice, but I'd rather not do that to my car.

So are you gonna log and give Matt a shot at remote tuning your machine? You don't have to use it. I need one to replace the JRE tune I'll lose when I unmarry the SCT handheld. I should have done a better job logging for JRE. I don't think there's much wrong with what I've got, but in hindsight... you can't tune a car properly with a shitty datalog... which is what I gave him.

I'm ready to get started too. Chompin' at the bit!

07-10-2013, 04:11 PM	#4033
infernostripes! Drives: 2010 1ssrs Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Edinburg Texas Posts: 669	I need some help from the help desk, please. I'm looking into purchasing a used 3200 protorque TC (bought from jre/Ted) from a member on here. The mods he had when he got the TC was a vortec SC and 3.70 gears. I'm going to be adding a comp cam dur: 231 247 lift: 617 624, to my headers and intake. I talked to Ted and he said it would work in my car since its only a weekend car, but he also said it might be a little tight. What do you all think? __________________ Last edited by infernostripes!; 07-10-2013 at 04:37 PM.

07-10-2013, 04:43 PM	#4036
Mydivorcegift Future Mopar Owner Drives: 2011, 2SS/RS, Synergy Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: TN Posts: 2,373	Also if you are buying a "used" converter it is always a good idea to send it back for a refreshing. That being said...I would just put a couple extra hundred with it and get a converter and get one that matches your cam profile. __________________ 2005 GTO-IBM-A4-Sold 2011 Camaro SS/RS Synergy-1 of 255-Sold You will be missed but you are in good hands! 2019 Challenger Hellcat B5, Redeye, Widebody

07-10-2013, 05:58 PM	#4039
thahemp Geek Drives: 2012 Black LS3 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Derby, KS Posts: 4,343 View My Garage	Zeke I finally ordered some of the connectors. I just ordered housing and pins for the male side of the A/C pressure sensor. That's the one that I'm not sure about. I'm gonna wire up a pigtail and make sure it works with the factory wiring before I go crazy building these cables. If this connector works out, then I just need to find connectors for whatever widebands we end up with, the female side, and a switch. __________________ 01000111011011110110111101100100001000000110110001 11010101100011011010110010000001110111011010010111 01000110100000100000011101000110100001101001011100 110010000001101111011011100110010100100001 x = ac97968bd3df8f968c8cd3df998a9c94d3df9c8a918bd3df9c 909c94df8c8a9c949a8dd3df92908b979a8ddf998a9c949a8d d3df8b968b8cd1 x = ~x

07-10-2013, 06:27 PM	#4042
TBone Negative Camber Junkie Drives: 2010 1SS LS3/6MN ABM 1 of 23 Join Date: May 2009 Location: ChiTown, IL Posts: 1,824	Well I will say this, when I put my CAI on, the Halltech, it got me into the 12's and it was the only thing I changed. So at least I have my own proof. T. __________________ "Horsepower is something that looks great in a Magazine article, but suspension is what actually gets you around the track fast.." Jack Olsen The drag strip is like sniffing glue, it's cheap, it's a decent buzz, it doesn't last long and they are all the same. Road racing is like China White Heroin, the buzz is stronger, the high lasts for hours, it's extremely addictive and they are all different. I can't wait for my next Track fix. DA HAWKS OWN DA CUP!!!!!

07-10-2013, 06:59 PM	#4044
Mchlgrrsn Stroked and blown Drives: 2010 LS3 2SS Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Bridgewater, NJ Posts: 1,458 View My Garage	Hahaha don't forget about my NOTSO supercharger. I do need lessons. I have been going to the track for the past 20 years in 14/15 second cars. One day soon I'm gonna drop a real nice slip on you guys. __________________ LME 416 LS3 shortblock/Callies Compstar 4340 4"crank/Callies 6.125 H beams rods/Wiesco 4.07 forged pistons/Cam Motion custom LS1/LME ported heads /maggie TVS2300/I West 8rib 10%OD /3.2 pulley/OD cog drive/JRE tensioner/ID850 /ADM dual fuel/Kooks LT 1 7/8/magna flow2.5 /cat delete/Roto Fab CAI /MGW short throw /SPEC super twin clutch/G Force built trans,carbon syncro rear shaft upgrade /DSS 9"single CF DS /Strange 3.70/31 spline trutrac/MT DR's/earls oil cooler /tuned KHC

07-10-2013, 07:45 PM	#4045
litle88 V8 Lounge member #2 Drives: 2001 Ws6 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Burbank,IL Posts: 6,373	LOL!! Hemp I also got my HPT in today! wifey just sent me pics and Matt sent me the credit info!! I cant wait..... Thats awesome, I hope the wiring works bud! __________________ 2001 ws6, 40k miles, Ls3 416 stroker, short block built by PER the rest by me. LPE Ls3 heads milled to 12-1 comp, FAST 102, NW 102, kooks 2", dual DMH cutouts, Magnaflow C/B, BTR cam + springs. Full UMI suspension.

07-10-2013, 07:50 PM	#4046
thahemp Geek Drives: 2012 Black LS3 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Derby, KS Posts: 4,343 View My Garage	I do too. I'll have to find another 5V circuit to take over if these connectors aren't right. Either that or cut/splice, but I'd rather not do that to my car. So are you gonna log and give Matt a shot at remote tuning your machine? You don't have to use it. I need one to replace the JRE tune I'll lose when I unmarry the SCT handheld. I should have done a better job logging for JRE. I don't think there's much wrong with what I've got, but in hindsight... you can't tune a car properly with a shitty datalog... which is what I gave him. I'm ready to get started too. Chompin' at the bit! __________________ 01000111011011110110111101100100001000000110110001 11010101100011011010110010000001110111011010010111 01000110100000100000011101000110100001101001011100 110010000001101111011011100110010100100001 x = ac97968bd3df8f968c8cd3df998a9c94d3df9c8a918bd3df9c 909c94df8c8a9c949a8dd3df92908b979a8ddf998a9c949a8d d3df8b968b8cd1 x = ~x