Camaro SS manual shipment (not production) hold officially confirmed by GM (UPDATED) - Page 27 - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

dstairs · 07-15-2009, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by UCF w00t

My understanding is that they don't quite know what the problem is and what the fix is. Once they get that, they should be able to set up a time frame and will hopefully let everyone know.

Oh the problem is known: The tail shaft shears off inside the trannie. Here is a photo of RRCAMARO holding the culpert.

Hylton · 07-15-2009, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by dstairs

Oh the problem is known: The tail shaft shears off inside the trannie. Here is a photo of RRCAMARO holding the culpert.

Actually - that's the symptom, not the problem.

UCF w00t · 07-15-2009, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by dstairs

Oh the problem is known: The tail shaft shears off inside the trannie. Here is a photo of RRCAMARO holding the culpert.

Thanks. I hadn't seen that picture. But I was referring to the cause of the problem. Why is the tail shaft shearing off inside the tranny?

Hollywod · 07-15-2009, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by 2001ragtop

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To Supermans: (and anyone else too afraid to launch their car)

You sound like you are disappointed that you can't risk smoking your rear tires.

If you are so worried about your tranny why don't you just launch it a couple of times until something breaks?

You can find out in the next 24 hours if your tranny is okay. During that time you might break both half-shafts and end up with lots of slop and slack in your drive-train. (so shifting the car in daily driving is even worse.)

And your back tires will no longer be balanced (car will shake on the highway) and your drive-shaft (driveline) likely won't be balanced.

You might twist the rear subframe of your car. But who cares right?

GO OUT and SMOKE YOUR TIRES NOW if you are so worried about your tranny then MAKE PLANS to drop it off at the dealership and deal with the service department after that.

And keep BLOCKING OUT Scott's advice which is to just drive your car like a car that you CARE about. Instead of someone who is 15 who just got a license.

FBodfather repeatedly gives advice about how to take care of the car, and everyone repeatedly says back "OH THANKS FBodfather, oh i plan to take it to the track soon...open it up...see what it will do....etc....Like they didn't hear a word FBodfather just said.....

+1

*GTAHVIT* · 07-15-2009, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by theholycow

Ok, so we know that it's happening to the same transmission in other cars...but I still have no idea what's actually wrong. What IS the issue? Clutch chatter? Synchro grind? Resensbion actuator too slow? Ketlac norgling sensor has false readings? Whatchamacallit failure?

Maybe it was posted in this thread, but if so it hasn't had attention called to it and there's an awful lot to sift through.

GM hasn't said officially what the cause of the problem is. Our guess is the departing output shaft.

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Originally Posted by dstairs

Oh the problem is known: The tail shaft shears off inside the trannie. Here is a photo of RRCAMARO holding the culpert.

That is the guess at this point. For the record it's unconfirmed. But the leading suspect.

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Originally Posted by UCF w00t

Thanks. I hadn't seen that picture. But I was referring to the cause of the problem. Why is the tail shaft shearing off inside the tranny?

The rumor is they weren't hardened correctly. Obvious, I know....

Doc · 07-15-2009, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by dstairs

Oh the problem is known: The tail shaft shears off inside the trannie. Here is a photo of RRCAMARO holding the culpert.

It's kind of amazing when you think about it; all that power, speed and performance the car is capable of... going through something as small as that.

theholycow · 07-15-2009, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Hylton

Actually - that's the symptom, not the problem.

Close enough...until now I haven't found a post describing even the symptom.

I'm glad it's not a problem with the Resensbion actuator.

carfansince73 · 07-15-2009, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by fbodfather

Take the road trip. You should have no problems as long as you don't do a 6000 rpm clutch dump and burnout at every intersection.

That sounds like a long, EXPENSIVE road trip!

CamaroScotty · 07-15-2009, 11:24 AM

Ultimately, I know this will get resolved, and with the great warranty on GM products, I wouldn't feel cheated.

But I DO feel cheated because I went to McDonalds today and bought an egg mcmuffin, and noticed the ham which USED to be about 4" is now somewhere between 2.5" - 3". But the price keeps going up. I mentioned it, so now I feel better.

*GTAHVIT* · 07-15-2009, 11:25 AM

Uhhhm did you get your coffee this morning???

CamaroScotty · 07-15-2009, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by GTAHVIT

Uhhhm did you get your coffee this morning???

I just think that clown Ronald wants a piece of me!!!

OK, back on topic -

Treadstone · 07-15-2009, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by fbodfather

Take the road trip. You should have no problems as long as you don't do a 6000 rpm clutch dump and burnout at every intersection.

Except it seems that there are plenty of MN6 guys who weren't doing 6k clutch dumps, and their tranny also broke.

NUCAR · 07-15-2009, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Supermans

Thanks Scott for the reply. I guess the only downside is that if I take it easy on the car for too long, I could then potentially have this problem but never know about it until after my warranty expires. I know it is going to be hard testing the car out to see whether or not each car is affected without causing the amount of stress needed for the part to fail. For some that was multiple launches and then it broke, for others a few. For the rest still affected who are not hitting the car hard, the part could fail in a year, or maybe longer if it has a problem. I am glad you are on here and give me your confidence about the car.. However I do think you understand mine and I'm sure many others concern here.. I guess some kind of a test that each dealer can perform for each Camaro SS manual sold within those VIN ranges would ease a lot of worry.. Thanks again.

That trans is covered for 5 years or 100,000 miles. If you have an output shaft with the incorrect heat treat, it will surface before that, unless she's a garage queen. An incorrect heat treat process will affect a specific number of parts. Rest assured they are defining that now. This failure is a brittle crack not a shearing twist like the ZO6 half shaft we had this week that...... WAS covered the warranty

. As for the test sequence, we just ordered in a barrel of VHT and some drag radials

Of course I volunteered to assist the techs out of the kindness of my heart

Treadstone · 07-15-2009, 11:45 AM

I love the attitude in this thread: "I know you have 426 hp, but be 'responsible' and just use half of that."

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