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killmode_on · 07-31-2013, 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by sbindley

This kit is going on my '13 Trans Am. Joe at Cordes sold me on it in about three emails over five minutes. Question: what best to put on the shaker hood? "Turbo Trans Am?"

Epicly bad ass!!!

Do you know about the DKM Matcho T/A's? I know the Meacham brothers that built them. I had an N/A one a million years ago and my buddy had a TT one that was by FAR the fastest car of it's time. I think the second Smokey & the Bandit they used a Matcho T/A with the large graphic removed cause they needed something that could really spin the tires.

cslee0811 · 07-31-2013, 03:47 AM

man... wow... this kit looks so freaking sweeeeeeeeeet!!! any idea on installers in Southern Cali?

Unreal · 07-31-2013, 08:15 AM

Cslee0811, Ryne@CMS.

SRT10KLLR · 07-31-2013, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by cslee0811

man... wow... this kit looks so freaking sweeeeeeeeeet!!! any idea on installers in Southern Cali?

Bring some beer and carne asada and I'll install it. I installed the IPS kit on the Camaro and this kit is very similar.

sbindley · 08-01-2013, 09:07 AM

Here is the TA - more photos on the thread in member journals. APG TT system should make this even more unique. Just hope all pieces fit with different nose and all the extra bracing beneath for the t-tops (those are being cut this week).

Unreal · 08-01-2013, 10:56 AM

With your being local, if any fab work or modifications to the kit are needed, I'm sure AGP/CPR will get it taken car of. Then again, I doubt anything would need to change.

GQ4Life · 08-01-2013, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Unreal

With your being local, if any fab work or modifications to the kit are needed, I'm sure AGP/CPR will get it taken car of. Then again, I doubt anything would need to change.

how about custom pipe to move air filter to fog light opening for cold air right on to the filter

Unreal · 08-01-2013, 12:34 PM

Been there, done that, lost power. If you want to do it, go for it. I'm sure tons of shops can do that. AGP tested all sorts of filter locations, etc and just running extra piping up to the front or to "cold" air locations just cost power. The cold air scoops and large intercooler have IATs 5-8F above ambient already.

AGP Turbo · 08-01-2013, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Unreal

Been there, done that, lost power. If you want to do it, go for it. I'm sure tons of shops can do that. AGP tested all sorts of filter locations, etc and just running extra piping up to the front or to "cold" air locations just cost power. The cold air scoops and large intercooler have IATs 5-8F above ambient already.

That's not exactly right. In testing we did get a consistent 1% gain in power by running cold air intakes. But the down sides of running all that piping, limiting front tire size, and very significant cost increase is clearly not justified by a 1% increase. Running just a quarter of a pound more boost will give similar gains. It's just not worth 'stepping over dollars to pick up dimes' in a setup that has soooo much power on tap, so easily.

The intercooler most the time sits right about 95% efficient.

Matt @ FSP · 08-01-2013, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by AGP Turbo

That's not exactly right. In testing we did get a consistent 1% gain in power by running cold air intakes. But the down sides of running all that piping, limiting front tire size, and very significant cost increase is clearly not justified by a 1% increase. Running just a quarter of a pound more boost will give similar gains. It's just not worth 'stepping over dollars to pick up dimes' in a setup that has soooo much power on tap, so easily.

The intercooler most the time sits right about 95% efficient.

Ah nice to see you in green buddy !!!

We will be installing some goodies this weekend on the shop car.

- AGP Twin Turbo Kit with S256 Turbos
- Century TH400 w/ Deep Pan & Transbrake, Built for 1500+
- Strange Dana 60 Unit (Already installed, putting in the new DSS prototype axles & a DSS carbon fiber dshaft)
- Haltech EMS wired in with factory ECU for dash control

Unavowed · 08-01-2013, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt @ FSP

- Century TH400 w/ Deep Pan & Transbrake, Built for 1500+
- Strange Dana 60 Unit (Already installed, putting in the new DSS prototype axles & a DSS carbon fiber dshaft)

How much horsepower do you think those parts will cost you? Or, in other words, if the same turbos were put on the same motor (416ci), but with the stock 6L80 and rear, what would it put down on 93 pump gas?

Matt @ FSP · 08-01-2013, 07:29 PM

93 pump gas would be your limitation.. I'd definitely either drop methanol on it or race gas tune so you can take it up.

My 417ci is 10.6:1, so we'll be living on C16 and estimated boost levels in the 22-25psi range. We are looking for 850-900rwhp through the unlocked TH400 (~1200 or so to FW) before we turn on the giggle juice.

As per the actual parts, the Dana 60 and axles are heavier than factory, the carbon fiber shaft weighs next to nothing (Only weight at ends for the billet yokes). So there will be a negative effect on shown HP, but brute strength is the gain.

Adadda · 08-01-2013, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Unavowed

How much horsepower do you think those parts will cost you? Or, in other words, if the same turbos were put on the same motor (416ci), but with the stock 6L80 and rear, what would it put down on 93 pump gas?

6L80 will not handle the power period.

GQ4Life · 08-01-2013, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Adadda

6L80 will not handle the power period.

even with serious rebuild :(

there one rated for 1200wHP Jamie uses..
then u can daily drive this car to get groceries LoL

07-31-2013, 08:15 AM	#311
Unreal Drives: 2006 Z06 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 5,712	Cslee0811, Ryne@CMS. __________________ Nick Corvette Z06 -1200ish rwhp

08-01-2013, 09:07 AM	#313
sbindley Drives: 2013 Pontiac Trans Am Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Phoenix Posts: 181	Here is the TA - more photos on the thread in member journals. APG TT system should make this even more unique. Just hope all pieces fit with different nose and all the extra bracing beneath for the t-tops (those are being cut this week). Attached Images

08-01-2013, 10:56 AM	#314
Unreal Drives: 2006 Z06 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 5,712	With your being local, if any fab work or modifications to the kit are needed, I'm sure AGP/CPR will get it taken car of. Then again, I doubt anything would need to change. __________________ Nick Corvette Z06 -1200ish rwhp

08-01-2013, 12:34 PM	#316
Unreal Drives: 2006 Z06 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 5,712	Been there, done that, lost power. If you want to do it, go for it. I'm sure tons of shops can do that. AGP tested all sorts of filter locations, etc and just running extra piping up to the front or to "cold" air locations just cost power. The cold air scoops and large intercooler have IATs 5-8F above ambient already. __________________ Nick Corvette Z06 -1200ish rwhp

07-31-2013, 03:47 AM	#310
cslee0811 Drives: 2010 2SS/RS Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 144	man... wow... this kit looks so freaking sweeeeeeeeeet!!! any idea on installers in Southern Cali?

08-01-2013, 07:29 PM	#320
Matt @ FSP Drives: 2011 Camaro SS Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Bradenton, FL Posts: 2,610	93 pump gas would be your limitation.. I'd definitely either drop methanol on it or race gas tune so you can take it up. My 417ci is 10.6:1, so we'll be living on C16 and estimated boost levels in the 22-25psi range. We are looking for 850-900rwhp through the unlocked TH400 (~1200 or so to FW) before we turn on the giggle juice. As per the actual parts, the Dana 60 and axles are heavier than factory, the carbon fiber shaft weighs next to nothing (Only weight at ends for the billet yokes). So there will be a negative effect on shown HP, but brute strength is the gain.