NOS or NOT to NOS PLEASE HELP!!

[SixGracing]

I have a question. I'm trying to get the biggest bang for the buck and right now it's not in my budget to spend another $10K adding a Whipple, change my cam, fuel pump, injectors, etc etc. A friend of mine said, "why don't you just add a 100 shot of N2O or more? Much cheaper.

My car is currently modded, running N/A and has the Texas Speed Cam, GMPP heads, SLP Long tubes and full exhaust and am currently making about 450HP to the wheels on a L99 to LS3 Conversion motor.

Would Nitrous be ok to do and would it be safe with a good tune? I've looked at the ZEX kits for about $600.

Any experience in this realm would be GREATLY Appreciated.

Thanks.

[Denis]

Well from what I understand, the basic kit isn't enough to run nitrous safely. To run all the safety gear to keep from blowing the motor up you're looking at over a grand.

Check out the forced induction section. There's some good nitrous threads rolling around.

[SixGracing]

Originally Posted by Denis

Well from what I understand, the basic kit isn't enough to run nitrous safely. To run all the safety gear to keep from blowing the motor up you're looking at over a grand.

Check out the forced induction section. There's some good nitrous threads rolling around.

Yeah, I sort of gathered that from what I was reading. There are lots of "Recommended" additional parts to their kit plus an addition of probably a fuel pump, tune and other mods to make it run safely. I'd like 100+ preferably 150hp so I just wanted to make sure this is a good idea or not. Never used Nitrous and I know there are those that don't like it. Just wondering what the pros and cons are.

And thanks for the info.

[Texas2SS]

Originally Posted by SixGracing

I have a question. I'm trying to get the biggest bang for the buck and right now it's not in my budget to spend another $10K adding a Whipple, change my cam, fuel pump, injectors, etc etc. A friend of mine said, "why don't you just add a 100 shot of NOS or more? Much cheaper.

My car is currently modded, running N/A and has the Texas Speed Cam, GMPP heads, SLP Long tubes and full exhaust and am currently making about 450HP to the wheels on a L99 to LS3 Conversion motor.

Would NOS be ok to do and would it be safe with a good tune? I've looked at the ZEX NOS kits for about $600.

Any experience in this realm would be GREATLY Appreciated.

Thanks.

Please, stop calling it NOS. NOS is a brand, not the abbreviation for Nitrous. Its either Nitrous it N2O.

Companies to look at would be NOS, Nitrous Outlet, Zex, Cold Fusion.
You could run a 75hp dry shot realatively safely if tuned correctly. Anything more and you'll want a stand alone fuel system.

A lot depends on what you want out of it.

[dixonk]

First things first. NOS is a brand. Please don't refer to Nitrous as NOS...only Vin Diesel can get away with that.

The Zex system is a very nice system. Cheap, easy install, and great results. Talk to RDP Motorsports they have killer deals going on right now. You will want a bottle heater, purge, and remote opener with the kit. Also a gauge for the bottle. A set of colder plugs and pull a couple degrees of timing.

[Nightmare2012]

NOOOOSSSSSS (ECLIPSE BLOWS UP IN BLUE FLAME) LOL well since I don't personally like n2o I don't research it but I would listen to texas2ss he is currently running nitrous in his car and I'm sure he'll answer your questions as long as you don't call nitrous NOS again

[SixGracing]

Originally Posted by dixonk

First things first. NOS is a brand. Please don't refer to Nitrous as NOS...only Vin Diesel can get away with that.

The Zex system is a very nice system. Cheap, easy install, and great results. Talk to RDP Motorsports they have killer deals going on right now. You will want a bottle heater, purge, and remote opener with the kit. Also a gauge for the bottle. A set of colder plugs and pull a couple degrees of timing.

Ok ok, two of you just slapped me for saying "NOS". Christ, like I said, I'm new to this area of performance so excuse my lingo dudes.

I'm trying to add horsepower and we drag race the car. In Utah with DA's of 6000-7000 my car is always sucking wind (Pun intended) and a mid 12 run is the best we can do. Have really wanted to SC the car but like I said it's not in the budget right now. Just lost a child and are still in recovery mode. But we're getting there slowly.

Of the systems mentioned, which do you think is best or are they all good? What's the reason for heating the Nitrous? Again, I'm a newbie so be easy.

[SixGracing]

Ok, went back and edited everything but the title to N2O or Nitrous. But I think the title is good because it irks the Nitrous guys enough to read my post just long enough to correct me while giving me advice.

[SixGracing]

Originally Posted by dixonk

First things first. NOS is a brand. Please don't refer to Nitrous as NOS...only Vin Diesel can get away with that.

The Zex system is a very nice system. Cheap, easy install, and great results. Talk to RDP Motorsports they have killer deals going on right now. You will want a bottle heater, purge, and remote opener with the kit. Also a gauge for the bottle. A set of colder plugs and pull a couple degrees of timing.

So when you say pull a couple degrees of timing it shows to pull about 2 degrees per every 100 hp. So if I did the 150 shot should I pull about 3 degrees? And do I pull that across the board or just in certain areas of the rpm range? Did you have someone tune your car? I have a tuner but if it's as simple as pulling timing, I can do that. I did the same thing when I run E85, except I added about 7 degrees across the board.

Do you know if anyone uses nitrous with E85?

[axis]

Originally Posted by SixGracing

Ok, went back and edited everything but the title to N2O or Nitrous. But I think the title is good because it irks the Nitrous guys enough to read my post just long enough to correct me while giving me advice.

Only if you're lucky enough to get a nice guy. Saying it's naws will give you the ricer TF&TF label. Most of the hardcore guys that will give you the best advice will just laugh at you and move on.

[SixGracing]

Originally Posted by axis

Only if you're lucky enough to get a nice guy. Saying it's naws will give you the ricer TF&TF label. Most of the hardcore guys that will give you the best advice will just laugh at you and move on.

That's ok. Because in the world of cars and Camaro's I'm about as hardcore as they come. Just because I've invested ZERO time before now in learning and understanding what nitrous will do for me, doesn't make me someone to laugh at . If someone new to a type of technology is laughed at simply because they didn't know the correct lingo, then by all means, keep walking. I've given plenty of advice to newcomers on these cars and never once have I ridiculed anyone for not understanding what WOT means or what a TPS is etc etc. Sometimes these forums kill me. I'm just looking for advice guys. Please feel free to offer me some of your experience and advice, but please refrain from heckling me for making the fatal "NOS" mistake. And if only Vin Diesel can say it, I can kick his ass, so I can too.

Seriously now, Nitrous or N2O help would be appreciated. With that babble being said these are my questions.

1- What does the heater do? Does nitrous (wet I'm assuming) have freezing probmlems?

2- Are the stock injectors enough with a BAP or upgraded fuel pump sufficient for 600HP?

3- Can I just pull some timing per the rule of 2 degrees per every 100HP or should I go ahead and have it tuned?

4- When drag racing, at WOT, how quickly does nitrous deplete if I were using the 150HP jetting? Or how often do you have to fill a tank (10lb)?

Thank you.

[axis]

This is the bolt-on section. We have a FI section that includes nitrous. If you search in there, you'll find all the info you could possibly want. This ought to get you started. Hint, Nitro dave knows a little about nitrous.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...hlight=nitrous

[SixGracing]

Originally Posted by axis

This is the bolt-on section. We have a FI section that includes nitrous. If you search in there, you'll find all the info you could possibly want. This ought to get you started. Hint, Nitro dave knows a little about nitrous.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...hlight=nitrous

Thank you. Yeah after I posted I realized by another poster that the FI section was for Nitrous. I have been checking out that section too. Thanks for the info.

[Texas2SS]

Originally Posted by SixGracing

That's ok. Because in the world of cars and Camaro's I'm about as hardcore as they come. Just because I've invested ZERO time before now in learning and understanding what nitrous will do for me, doesn't make me someone to laugh at . If someone new to a type of technology is laughed at simply because they didn't know the correct lingo, then by all means, keep walking. I've given plenty of advice to newcomers on these cars and never once have I ridiculed anyone for not understanding what WOT means or what a TPS is etc etc. Sometimes these forums kill me. I'm just looking for advice guys. Please feel free to offer me some of your experience and advice, but please refrain from heckling me for making the fatal "NOS" mistake. And if only Vin Diesel can say it, I can kick his ass, so I can too.

Seriously now, Nitrous or N2O help would be appreciated. With that babble being said these are my questions.

1- What does the heater do? Does nitrous (wet I'm assuming) have freezing probmlems?
The heater is used to build pressure, that's where you fer you're consistency. Actually, when filling a bottle is get quite hot, I always freeze mine before getting filled. I prefer a NANO system but not the route to go if looking to save $.
2- Are the stock injectors enough with a BAP or upgraded fuel pump sufficient for 600HP?
are you planning a wet shot or dry shot?
3- Can I just pull some timing per the rule of 2 degrees per every 100HP or should I go ahead and have it tuned?
that is a general rule if thumb. Many cases differ. I would recommend a complete tune once nitrous is installed.
4- When drag racing, at WOT, how quickly does nitrous deplete if I were using the 150HP jetting? Or how often do you have to fill a tank (10lb)?
At 150hp, you would be good for about 8 passes as long as you could keep pressure up.
Thank you.

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