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the barber · 08-20-2013, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Dtrimpi87

I run Stainless Works long tubes. To hell with CARB.

+1 cant wait to get my LTs

Dtrimpi87 · 08-20-2013, 06:42 PM

For some extra green backs at the right hole in the wall smog station, you can get anything to pass smog

axis · 08-20-2013, 06:44 PM

Unless you're going to pair the shorty's with high flow cats or catless, it's pretty much a waste of $$, from a performance standpoint. The ARH headers are probably the only ones that have shown a definitive performance increase and it wasn't much. Add to that, they cost as much their LT's and the price/hp goes WAY up. If you just want some shiney tubes in your engine bay, by all means, go for it.

axis · 08-20-2013, 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dtrimpi87

For some extra green backs at the right hole in the wall smog station, you can get anything to pass smog

The emissions glory hole,

litle88 · 08-20-2013, 06:50 PM

The TSP 1 7/8 headers or 2" run 460 bux!! They are easy as hell to put on and off of the stock system or catback! Just keep your system intact and slap them back on when its time to see the administrators of "The People's Republic of California"!

Cuda7050 · 08-20-2013, 11:32 PM

Technically you can't change anything on the exhaust system. But as I understand it the laws have changed to make the California smog check similar to many other states. No more sniffer test on post 2000 cars, just a visual and a check for engines codes.

mikeyg36 · 08-21-2013, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Dtrimpi87

I run Stainless Works long tubes. To hell with CARB.

and I don't even live there.

VR Baron · 08-21-2013, 12:04 AM

I have JBA shorties and their high flow cats setup. The shorties are carb legal in Cali, hiflows arent but can easliy swap out to stock to test at smog time in 4 years.Yes shorties arent worth alot by themselves but with hiflows to open it up I got about 20 hp, and another 12 with a tune, 32 in all.It isnt as much as LT'S but good if you dont want the hassle of lt's and Cali smog, or being stopped by the cops. Oh, the tune wont be detected as being different then stock either the way it is done and they cant tell anyway, no matter what they say(From a little birdie..lol)

RA1987 · 08-21-2013, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Dtrimpi87

I run Stainless Works long tubes. To hell with CARB.

^^^this

Get your smog certificate first before installing LT and CAI.

dixonk · 08-21-2013, 12:15 AM

Header swap takes about 3 hours with ramps and hand tools. Get long tubes and every few years just swap it out with the stock manifolds.

2010 4 DW · 08-21-2013, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by VR Baron

I have JBA shorties and their high flow cats setup. The shorties are carb legal in Cali, hiflows arent but can easliy swap out to stock to test at smog time in 4 years.Yes shorties arent worth alot by themselves but with hiflows to open it up I got about 20 hp, and another 12 with a tune, 32 in all.It isnt as much as LT'S but good if you dont want the hassle of lt's and Cali smog, or being stopped by the cops. Oh, the tune wont be detected as being different then stock either the way it is done and they cant tell anyway, no matter what they say(From a little birdie..lol)

32rwhp from JBA shorties and mids with a tune is almost as much as all Long Tubes on the market and you can remain legal in California except the mids. Those take 20 minutes to change out for testing in a few years.

Here is a build showing the gains of JBA shorties that are legal in California and you can make 620rwhp no issue.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...light=padre+ss

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...light=padre+ss

JDP Sales · 08-21-2013, 12:23 PM

ARH and JBA are the only shorty headers that I know of that are CARB legal. You still can't legally change the cats, but they are easy enough to swap out.

Best regards,

Tyler
888-308-6007

SSGUNNER · 08-22-2013, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by mikeyg36

and I don't even live there.

CARB sux. Thats what holding me back on LT's.

dixonk · 08-22-2013, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by SSGUNNER

CARB sux. Thats what holding me back on LT's.

You have about 3 of 4 more years before having to worry about it. Headers are one of the easier mods to do on these cars as well. 3 hours of work every few years...whats the hold up?

08-20-2013, 06:44 PM	#17
axis Search Ninja Drives: 2010 Black 2SS/RS A6 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Central Ark Posts: 7,183	Unless you're going to pair the shorty's with high flow cats or catless, it's pretty much a waste of $$, from a performance standpoint. The ARH headers are probably the only ones that have shown a definitive performance increase and it wasn't much. Add to that, they cost as much their LT's and the price/hp goes WAY up. If you just want some shiney tubes in your engine bay, by all means, go for it. __________________ 2010 Black 2SS/RS A6 Halltech CF 102 fed GPI modded intake manifold Bo (knows) White ported TB Kooks LT's/ Dynomax VT Pfadted (springs/sways) Dyno tuned by Rhino and GPI I once parallel parked a train.

08-20-2013, 06:50 PM	#19
litle88 V8 Lounge member #2 Drives: 2001 Ws6 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Burbank,IL Posts: 6,373	The TSP 1 7/8 headers or 2" run 460 bux!! They are easy as hell to put on and off of the stock system or catback! Just keep your system intact and slap them back on when its time to see the administrators of "The People's Republic of California"! __________________ 2001 ws6, 40k miles, Ls3 416 stroker, short block built by PER the rest by me. LPE Ls3 heads milled to 12-1 comp, FAST 102, NW 102, kooks 2", dual DMH cutouts, Magnaflow C/B, BTR cam + springs. Full UMI suspension.

08-20-2013, 06:42 PM	#16
Dtrimpi87 Banned Drives: 2010 2SS/RS A6 & 2011 1LT/RS Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 3,491	For some extra green backs at the right hole in the wall smog station, you can get anything to pass smog

08-20-2013, 11:32 PM	#20
Cuda7050 Drives: 2012 SS LS3 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: NorCal Posts: 818	Technically you can't change anything on the exhaust system. But as I understand it the laws have changed to make the California smog check similar to many other states. No more sniffer test on post 2000 cars, just a visual and a check for engines codes.

08-21-2013, 12:04 AM	#22
VR Baron SoCal Camaro5 Race Team Drives: 2021 Shadow Grey Camaro 2SS 1LE Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: SO CAL Posts: 14,298	I have JBA shorties and their high flow cats setup. The shorties are carb legal in Cali, hiflows arent but can easliy swap out to stock to test at smog time in 4 years.Yes shorties arent worth alot by themselves but with hiflows to open it up I got about 20 hp, and another 12 with a tune, 32 in all.It isnt as much as LT'S but good if you dont want the hassle of lt's and Cali smog, or being stopped by the cops. Oh, the tune wont be detected as being different then stock either the way it is done and they cant tell anyway, no matter what they say(From a little birdie..lol)

08-21-2013, 12:15 AM	#24
dixonk Drives: 2011 Audi Q7 Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Elk Grove, CA Posts: 1,084	Header swap takes about 3 hours with ramps and hand tools. Get long tubes and every few years just swap it out with the stock manifolds.

08-21-2013, 12:23 PM	#26
JDP Sales Drives: Chevys at the limit Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: SLC, UT Posts: 9,621	ARH and JBA are the only shorty headers that I know of that are CARB legal. You still can't legally change the cats, but they are easy enough to swap out. Best regards, Tyler 888-308-6007