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Nightmare2012 · 08-28-2013, 10:53 PM

That's a beautiful ride!!

thahemp · 08-28-2013, 10:54 PM

Pretty badass. Locals are a breath of fresh air from the internet morons.

Nightmare2012 · 08-28-2013, 11:00 PM

Tell me about it lol

litle88 · 08-28-2013, 11:00 PM

Lol nice!

TBone · 08-28-2013, 11:28 PM

NRE builds some wicked rides. When I win the lottery they will be one of the top ten calls.

T.

thahemp · 08-28-2013, 11:41 PM

Non-Recurring Engineering? My favorite product!

CHMSC · 08-28-2013, 11:44 PM

Love those 3rd gens

mp51998 · 08-29-2013, 12:45 PM

I haven't seen it covered so I was wondering if we could shed some enlightenment on the differences of return style and returnless fuel systems. I am considering Squash for an upcoming upgrade but appears they do not have a returnless system out yet. What are the pros and cons or limitations of each? Am I better off waiting for the returnless or just bite the bullet? My end goals are TT DD/road course car. Currently thinking 800-850 ish. Currently have cammed car at 490 ish. I know I'll need injectors and other supporting mods. More curious about the return/returnless systems. I know this is a bolt on thread but thought any discussion could help others. If not I'll have it moved. Thank you.

thahemp · 08-29-2013, 01:02 PM

I'd like to know a more about our fuel system too. I think for your power levels though people will recommend a return system since they keep a constant pressure regardless of engine load. There are several in here that can probably explain in great detail what you should do with your fuel system and why

... I'm not one of them.

Nightmare2012 · 08-29-2013, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by thahemp

I'd like to know a more about our fuel system too. I think for your power levels th!ough people will recommend a return system since they keep a constant pressure regardless of engine load. There are several in here that can probably explain in great detail what you should do with your fuel system and why

... I'm not one of them.

+1 I don't even know what injectors to get but I got 65lb/hr nevertheless and looking for a zl1 fuel pump

K32 Camaro · 08-29-2013, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by thahemp

Ok K32.. I think we'll be close on this one.

(V * 12.5) - 20.95

That puts us at -11 when the gauge reads -22.

(v*13)-32 is the closest we've gotten so far. Later today I'll hook up livelink to see how close it is. I don't know if it matches up on the top end either.

K32 Camaro · 08-29-2013, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightmare2012

+1 I don't even know what injectors to get but I got 65lb/hr nevertheless and looking for a zl1 fuel pump

I was told that with the programming they have now, you can't over injector. So go for the id2000! Haha.

BlaqWhole · 08-29-2013, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by mp51998

I haven't seen it covered so I was wondering if we could shed some enlightenment on the differences of return style and returnless fuel systems. I am considering Squash for an upcoming upgrade but appears they do not have a returnless system out yet. What are the pros and cons or limitations of each? Am I better off waiting for the returnless or just bite the bullet? My end goals are TT DD/road course car. Currently thinking 800-850 ish. Currently have cammed car at 490 ish. I know I'll need injectors and other supporting mods. More curious about the return/returnless systems. I know this is a bolt on thread but thought any discussion could help others. If not I'll have it moved. Thank you.

A return style system can support more hp than a returnless system. Return style can run a pressure regulator and an external fuel pump. Returnless cannot, but they have pressure sensors (obviously) and you can adjust the pressure through tuning. A return style also keeps a cooler supply of fuel coming through the lines to the engine. As far as when you need to switch over...I'm not sure at what power level you would need to. Especially when you can just run bigger fuel lines and fuel rails on a returnless system. I'm sure a returnless system can support around 800 or more hp considering that all vehicles from the factory are returnless. Years ago returnless systems were only good for around like 600 hp at which point you would need to switch over. Sometimes people had to switch over at even less...like 500 hp.

Nightmare2012 · 08-29-2013, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by K32 Camaro

I was told that with the programming they have now, you can't over injector. So go for the id2000! Haha.

Lol those are quite pricey!! I got some new ones from lsx master here.

08-28-2013, 10:54 PM	#5518
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08-28-2013, 11:00 PM	#5520
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08-28-2013, 11:28 PM	#5521
TBone Negative Camber Junkie Drives: 2010 1SS LS3/6MN ABM 1 of 23 Join Date: May 2009 Location: ChiTown, IL Posts: 1,824	NRE builds some wicked rides. When I win the lottery they will be one of the top ten calls. T. __________________ "Horsepower is something that looks great in a Magazine article, but suspension is what actually gets you around the track fast.." Jack Olsen The drag strip is like sniffing glue, it's cheap, it's a decent buzz, it doesn't last long and they are all the same. Road racing is like China White Heroin, the buzz is stronger, the high lasts for hours, it's extremely addictive and they are all different. I can't wait for my next Track fix. DA HAWKS OWN DA CUP!!!!!

08-28-2013, 11:41 PM	#5522
thahemp Geek Drives: 2012 Black LS3 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Derby, KS Posts: 4,343 View My Garage	Non-Recurring Engineering? My favorite product! __________________ 01000111011011110110111101100100001000000110110001 11010101100011011010110010000001110111011010010111 01000110100000100000011101000110100001101001011100 110010000001101111011011100110010100100001 x = ac97968bd3df8f968c8cd3df998a9c94d3df9c8a918bd3df9c 909c94df8c8a9c949a8dd3df92908b979a8ddf998a9c949a8d d3df8b968b8cd1 x = ~x

08-28-2013, 11:44 PM	#5523
CHMSC ROAD COURSE JUNKIE Drives: 2012 SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Somewhere Posts: 4,868 View My Garage	Love those 3rd gens __________________

08-28-2013, 10:53 PM	#5517
Nightmare2012 come find out;) Drives: stockish 2012 camaro ss Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: speed county Posts: 2,166 View My Garage	That's a beautiful ride!!

08-28-2013, 11:00 PM	#5519
Nightmare2012 come find out;) Drives: stockish 2012 camaro ss Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: speed county Posts: 2,166 View My Garage	Tell me about it lol

08-29-2013, 12:45 PM	#5524
mp51998 Drives: Black 2011 2SS/RS Join Date: May 2011 Location: S. Texas Posts: 1,817	I haven't seen it covered so I was wondering if we could shed some enlightenment on the differences of return style and returnless fuel systems. I am considering Squash for an upcoming upgrade but appears they do not have a returnless system out yet. What are the pros and cons or limitations of each? Am I better off waiting for the returnless or just bite the bullet? My end goals are TT DD/road course car. Currently thinking 800-850 ish. Currently have cammed car at 490 ish. I know I'll need injectors and other supporting mods. More curious about the return/returnless systems. I know this is a bolt on thread but thought any discussion could help others. If not I'll have it moved. Thank you.

08-29-2013, 01:02 PM	#5525
thahemp Geek Drives: 2012 Black LS3 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Derby, KS Posts: 4,343 View My Garage	I'd like to know a more about our fuel system too. I think for your power levels though people will recommend a return system since they keep a constant pressure regardless of engine load. There are several in here that can probably explain in great detail what you should do with your fuel system and why ... I'm not one of them. __________________ 01000111011011110110111101100100001000000110110001 11010101100011011010110010000001110111011010010111 01000110100000100000011101000110100001101001011100 110010000001101111011011100110010100100001 x = ac97968bd3df8f968c8cd3df998a9c94d3df9c8a918bd3df9c 909c94df8c8a9c949a8dd3df92908b979a8ddf998a9c949a8d d3df8b968b8cd1 x = ~x