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thahemp · 09-27-2013, 12:23 AM

Quadruple turbo. Santa is fat.

Nightmare2012 · 09-27-2013, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by thahemp

Quadruple turbo. Santa is fat.

Lol yea with open heads for that extra soumd

mp51998 · 09-27-2013, 05:31 AM

So back on the topic of these LS7 heads. I am running the NF cam. What kind of increase could I expect to see by upgrading to these? Everything I've seen says head upgrade is not worth the coin but I'd sure be interested to see about these LS7 heads. To be clear, heads, change map sensor connector, retune? Also I plan on TT down the road(spring). Would these be worth it or would I have to dump these like I will with my headers and CAI? Then what do I do about exhaust manifold? Will LS3 manifold work? Thx. I love this thread. It's like a forum inside a forum. But with relaxed rules.

Muddflap · 09-27-2013, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by mp51998

So back on the topic of these LS7 heads. I am running the NF cam. What kind of increase could I expect to see by upgrading to these? Everything I've seen says head upgrade is not worth the coin but I'd sure be interested to see about these LS7 heads. To be clear, heads, change map sensor connector, retune? Also I plan on TT down the road(spring). Would these be worth it or would I have to dump these like I will with my headers and CAI? Then what do I do about exhaust manifold? Will LS3 manifold work? Thx. I love this thread. It's like a forum inside a forum. But with relaxed rules.

From what I've been reading most aftermarket heads claim to increase hp by 30-40. Not sure how true this is..... I don't remember if it was the TSP heads or the Mast heads but they said they will work with a LS3 intake.

litle88 · 09-27-2013, 08:32 AM

If your going TT your gonna need a different cam, TSP's do require an Ls7 intake BUT the have a thicker deck for boost!

grocerygetter · 09-27-2013, 08:50 AM

Yeah I was reeeeeaaaaal close to buying heads...I just couldnt pony up the extra to that extent right now. Car is pd off and a hobby car, maybe next fall.

. BUT, I also know I'm flirting with the end of my fuel supply if this thing puts down what Rhino thinks it will as is. The beauty of FI. Low 600 range I will hit my stopping point for this street car until I break something and it needs replacing.

Muddflap · 09-27-2013, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by grocerygetter

Yeah I was reeeeeaaaaal close to buying heads...I just couldnt pony up the extra to that extent right now. Car is pd off and a hobby car, maybe next fall.

. BUT, I also know I'm flirting with the end of my fuel supply if this thing puts down what Rhino thinks it will as is. The beauty of FI. Low 600 range I will hit my stopping point for this street car until I break something and it needs replacing.

Have you heard how your build is coming? When do they expect to be done with it?

Nightmare2012 · 09-27-2013, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by mp51998

So back on the topic of these LS7 heads. I am running the NF cam. What kind of increase could I expect to see by upgrading to these? Everything I've seen says head upgrade is not worth the coin but I'd sure be interested to see about these LS7 heads. To be clear, heads, change map sensor connector, retune? Also I plan on TT down the road(spring). Would these be worth it or would I have to dump these like I will with my headers and CAI? Then what do I do about exhaust manifold? Will LS3 manifold work? Thx. I love this thread. It's like a forum inside a forum. But with relaxed rules.

Ls7 heads will pretty much out flow and out perform any ls3 head out there you might see around 510-530 rwhp with the night fury cam (spitballing of course) duskss got to 508 with his stock ported ones and supporting mods so I'm pretty sure 515-530 is a more realistic number

mp51998 · 09-27-2013, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by litle88

If your going TT your gonna need a different cam, TSP's do require an Ls7 intake BUT the have a thicker deck for boost!

Really? Lethal said it would work with AGP's TT kit. I know they use it with the SC's they install. In fact Nick was going to put one on his car. AGP said I should be able to put down 750-800 with that cam and their base kit. I've still got a few months before I pull the trigger so I can due lots of research. Just out of curiosity what would you recommend Litle? I always value your input. Also I know I'll need a stronger drivetrain. I'm already planning for that. Thx

Birm · 09-27-2013, 02:52 PM

You can use it, you can use just about any cam...just not maximizing what it could be with a properly spec'd cam specific for a TT setup......

axis · 09-27-2013, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Muddflap

Have you heard how your build is coming? When do they expect to be done with it?

I'm pretty sure it's done. Just got a few texts from him. I'll let him post up the final numbers. Very nice increase with no boost change.

mp51998 · 09-27-2013, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Birm

You can use it, you can use just about any cam...just not maximizing what it could be with a properly spec'd cam specific for a TT setup......

So leave some power on the table or have a cam speced. Any market for used cams? Don't see many on the boards.

Muddflap · 09-27-2013, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by mp51998

So leave some power on the table or have a cam speced. Any market for used cams? Don't see many on the boards.

Couldn't you run it with the cam now and see how it feel to you performance wise, and if you aren't happy with it then you could have one spec'd. It would suck going that route just because of the extra labor cost of going back in to add a different cam though.
On buying a used cam I personally wouldn't do it but there are people that buy them.

mp51998 · 09-27-2013, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Muddflap

Couldn't you run it with the cam now and see how it feel to you performance wise, and if you aren't happy with it then you could have one spec'd. It would suck going that route just because of the extra labor cost of going back in to add a different cam though.
On buying a used cam I personally wouldn't do it but there are people that buy them.

To be honest that would probably be the route I go. If it does make as much as AGP said it would I'll be happy. I'm not looking to be in 1000hp club. I still want to drive it on the street. I'll also have the added cost of drivetrain to work on so upgrading a cam that is working ok just to get a little more out of it would be down the road. Thx for everyone's input.

09-27-2013, 12:23 AM	#6119
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09-27-2013, 08:32 AM	#6123
litle88 V8 Lounge member #2 Drives: 2001 Ws6 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Burbank,IL Posts: 6,373	If your going TT your gonna need a different cam, TSP's do require an Ls7 intake BUT the have a thicker deck for boost! __________________ 2001 ws6, 40k miles, Ls3 416 stroker, short block built by PER the rest by me. LPE Ls3 heads milled to 12-1 comp, FAST 102, NW 102, kooks 2", dual DMH cutouts, Magnaflow C/B, BTR cam + springs. Full UMI suspension.

09-27-2013, 08:50 AM	#6124
grocerygetter instigator Drives: 2020 6.2 Trail Boss, 2022 XC90 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: 72034 Posts: 3,979 View My Garage	Yeah I was reeeeeaaaaal close to buying heads...I just couldnt pony up the extra to that extent right now. Car is pd off and a hobby car, maybe next fall. . BUT, I also know I'm flirting with the end of my fuel supply if this thing puts down what Rhino thinks it will as is. The beauty of FI. Low 600 range I will hit my stopping point for this street car until I break something and it needs replacing. __________________ -John S.

09-27-2013, 05:31 AM	#6121
mp51998 Drives: Black 2011 2SS/RS Join Date: May 2011 Location: S. Texas Posts: 1,817	So back on the topic of these LS7 heads. I am running the NF cam. What kind of increase could I expect to see by upgrading to these? Everything I've seen says head upgrade is not worth the coin but I'd sure be interested to see about these LS7 heads. To be clear, heads, change map sensor connector, retune? Also I plan on TT down the road(spring). Would these be worth it or would I have to dump these like I will with my headers and CAI? Then what do I do about exhaust manifold? Will LS3 manifold work? Thx. I love this thread. It's like a forum inside a forum. But with relaxed rules.

09-27-2013, 02:52 PM	#6128
Birm Drives: Florida Speed & Power Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Pinellas Park, FL Posts: 3,185	You can use it, you can use just about any cam...just not maximizing what it could be with a properly spec'd cam specific for a TT setup......