Times like this i wish i went LS3....

[SeaCompiler]

Originally Posted by Bell040

75,000 miles on my cam (145,000 on the car). stock clutch and no issues.

Bell040, I think I was looking at the same cam - nice lope and streetable. I keep going back and forth between that one, NF, Livernois,etc and then saw a post today where someone mentioned their NF wasn't loping as much anymore and was thinking their lobes were wore down. The cam I am looking for needs to go the distance and not wear out in 25K-40K miles. Your mileage post was helpful. What did yours dyno?

[Camarojt]

Originally Posted by Rhino79

For what it's worth, my ss4 cam in my l99 makes 509 Rwhp with stock heads.

That's impressive considering that it's much harder to reach 500 in a L99 and your not only beating 500 but doing it without aftermarket heads!

[Denis]

Originally Posted by Rhino79

For what it's worth, my ss4 cam in my l99 makes 509 Rwhp with stock heads.

Jesus...

[Muddflap]

Originally Posted by LS3 SS

I know the specs on the enforcer cam are way more radical than the PCM 545 cam, but LR making 500rwhp on an L99 with PRC 255's gives me hope that I can break 500rwhp on my LS3.

You should just call Rhino79 at GPI and tell them you want the Muddflap Custom Grind Cam!!!! Hahaha

[Denis]

Another question....would it be worth upgrading the injectors as well? Or would that not really matter with just a cam and some eventual head work?

[thahemp]

Originally Posted by Denis

Another question....would it be worth upgrading the injectors as well? Or would that not really matter with just a cam and some eventual head work?

You shouldn't need to upgrade injectors.

[Denis]

Well NEED is one thing. But can I benefit from it or would it be a waste of money?

[vroomapunk]

Originally Posted by Denis

Well NEED is one thing. But can I benefit from it or would it be a waste of money?

Fairly sure you would not see a benefit

[litle88]

If your duty cycle is at 80% when they are tuning it then yea. But no benefits really, I wouldn't waste money buying other injectors when you can just send yours to get resized. I sent mine to http://stiegemeier.com

[Denis]

Go ya, thanks for the info! You guys have been more than helpful.

[K32 Camaro]

Just think about this.. Cam essentials + labor = ~3500-4500, a short block is 4500, a Long block is 7500. Why not get a short block and switch over the intake and pulleys!?!?

Switching out blocks is alot easier than changing internals imo.

[ParisTNDude]

Originally Posted by Denis

so lately ive been pricing up cams...but i realize in order to do it right on an L99 you're easly looking at over 2 grand just in parts. you need the Cam ($430), in my case i want to keep the VVT so i need the AFM delete kit ($390), VVT Phaser limiter ($60), Torque Converter ($800) springs ($300), Trunion upgrade ($140), C6R Timing Chain ($150), Melling Oil Pump ($160) + Tuning.

i mean TSP offers a kit which inclused the cam, Springs, push rods, dod delete, and phaser limiter for 1200 bucks...saves you about 30 which is good.

so without the tune your looking at roughly $2500 just for a cam...that price includes doing it myself....forget about installation. its crazy...hence why my SS has remained cam-less for this long. if i had an LS3 it would have had a cam a long time ago. Now i know a lot of those things on that list are required whether its an LS3 or L99 but the AFM delete, phaser limiter and Torque converter are unique to the L99...but thats ~$1250 right there...cuts the price in half.

anyway...just ranting about it. trying to figure out how you guys afford it! you selling your kidneys or what? lol

I traded my good running, 2010 non cammed L99 for a 2012 LS3 and first time at the track with the same mods, I wished I had kept my L99. There were so many problems with wheel hop, I couldn't get close to my L99 ETs, and I did the whole bushing, toe rods, etc etc on the LS3. Before I put that much money in a cam, I would think hard about a Pro-Charger.

[vroomapunk]

Originally Posted by K32 Camaro

Just think about this.. Cam essentials + labor = ~3500-4500, a short block is 4500, a Long block is 7500. Why not get a short block and switch over the intake and pulleys!?!?

Switching out blocks is alot easier than changing internals imo.

Originally Posted by ParisTNDude

I traded my good running, 2010 non cammed L99 for a 2012 LS3 and first time at the track with the same mods, I wished I had kept my L99. There were so many problems with wheel hop, I couldn't get close to my L99 ETs, and I did the whole bushing, toe rods, etc etc on the LS3. Before I put that much money in a cam, I would think hard about a Pro-Charger.

Both great points/arguments.

Big differnece for me, is that I was able to get every part I wanted, great brands, upgrades, piece of mind lol, for right at 3k. And I will be installing my self.

If labor was a factor, I wouldnt be doing it at all, or I might be getting a blower. But even with a blower, I would still worry about stock rockers, timing chain, and AFM lifters.

So I would have to change those out anyway. It ends up being a no brainer for me to do the night fury cam, stall converter, and supporting mods, and install myself. Lethal will be updating my previous tune, making the tuning cost free.

But everyone has different plans for their cars. Some dudes just slap a blower on there and dont worry at all about parts breaking, I worry though lol.

[Denis]

Originally Posted by K32 Camaro

Just think about this.. Cam essentials + labor = ~3500-4500, a short block is 4500, a Long block is 7500. Why not get a short block and switch over the intake and pulleys!?!?

Switching out blocks is alot easier than changing internals imo.

Well the cam setup I can piece together at my own pace. A short block I'd have to just drop that coin all at once. Not to mention there won't be any labor since I'd do it myself.

Originally Posted by ParisTNDude

I traded my good running, 2010 non cammed L99 for a 2012 LS3 and first time at the track with the same mods, I wished I had kept my L99. There were so many problems with wheel hop, I couldn't get close to my L99 ETs, and I did the whole bushing, toe rods, etc etc on the LS3. Before I put that much money in a cam, I would think hard about a Pro-Charger.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love a pro charger. But 2500 for a cam package or 7000 for a pro charger? I think I'll stick with the cam for now.