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grocerygetter · 11-24-2013, 10:54 PM

if u buy used, buy one of the MT options. I think Padre is discussing selling all 4 of his tsw with tires too.

TBone · 11-24-2013, 11:07 PM

Firefighter, what have you done to your car so far? I am a road course guy too and I am just bolt ons (CAI, PTB, LT, HFC, Corsa;400RWHPish) and smoke a lot of guys at the track because of my suspension. I know someone who changed their rockers ratio when they did their cam and it did not help, in my opinion it hurt. These guys would know better but I would wait on that till you crack the engine and do your H/C/I.

Little, if I keep the car, yes you can cam it.

T.

Firefighter · 11-24-2013, 11:20 PM

TBone all I've done so far is a VMax TB and an ADM Race Intake (scoop) that's it for power the UDP and LT's will be on the way then a tune.

Suspension just a 1LE with CTS-V/ZL1 brake upgrade, For now...

As far as my goals long term is 500/500. I have Aero and Suspension stuff in the works...

TBone · 11-25-2013, 12:11 AM

FF,

Good choice on the LT's but the UDP is a personal choice that I would not choose. I don't think the gain is worth the loss of your accessories, if you use your AC in FL you will understand. You already gained HP by having the electric steering but again that's me. I just never liked UDP's.

The Brake upgrade is an EXCELLENT choice and one I am currently contemplating. I would also suggest Pedders bushings, minimum, and think about coilovers, optional. Since you live in a HOT state you should think about upgrading your radiator, oil cooler, trans cooler and some brake ducts.

Also, do not get hung up on HP/TQ numbers like everyone else if you are focusing on the RC stuff but more on a durable valvetrain and usable TQ to get you out of the corners. Think Brian Tooley type stuff, Goo Goo him.

With more and more folks focusing on Road Course and AutoX I kinda wish we had a section here on C5 dedicated to just that since it is kinda specialized. I am seeing more questions pop up here and there that could really populate it's own section.

T.

And since it is that time of year.....

GO HAWKS!!!!!!

litle88 · 11-25-2013, 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Firefighter

TBone all I've done so far is a VMax TB and an ADM Race Intake (scoop) that's it for power the UDP and LT's will be on the way then a tune.

Suspension just a 1LE with CTS-V/ZL1 brake upgrade, For now...

As far as my goals long term is 500/500. I have Aero and Suspension stuff in the works...

They are not really worth it IMHO.

Especially of you want to get to 500, you'll need a cam and the ramp rates on the newer cams will not play well with the 1.8's because they will need more spring pressure to control the valve if not you'll have all kinds of Valve float. Just stick to our 1.7 rocker ratio with trunion and you'll get there

Firefighter · 11-25-2013, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by litle88

They are not really worth it IMHO.

Especially of you want to get to 500, you'll need a cam and the ramp rates on the newer cams will not play well with the 1.8's because they will need more spring pressure to control the valve if not you'll have all kinds of Valve float. Just stick to our 1.7 rocker ratio with trunion and you'll get there

Well what if I run them to just get me through the next year? Then when I do my Heads/Cam/Poss. Intake I go back to the stockers with upgraded trunion bearings.

I'm just looking to get as much power as possible for right now.

I'll be selling my heads when the new ones get thrown on. The rockers will go with them...

jman17 · 11-25-2013, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by litle88

The parking lot at night is where all the fun is!!!

BUT were gonna make it fun at the track in MAY!!

I just hope that they have everything worked out by May...

http://www.competitionplus.com/drag-...to-remain-open

SolomonAKOO · 11-25-2013, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by jman17

I just hope that they have everything worked out by May...

http://www.competitionplus.com/drag-...to-remain-open

I heard that everything got worked out and they are going to remain opened.

jman17 · 11-25-2013, 10:34 AM

I hope so. There are some other issues I know that the track has to or had to deal with before NHRA would go back for the National event.

LS3 SS · 11-25-2013, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Firefighter

Well what if I run them to just get me through the next year? Then when I do my Heads/Cam/Poss. Intake I go back to the stockers with upgraded trunion bearings.

I'm just looking to get as much power as possible for right now.

I'll be selling my heads when the new ones get thrown on. The rockers will go with them...

You do realize you won't see 500 rwtq unless you have more cubes/compression or a VERY happy dyno right?

Firefighter · 11-25-2013, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by LS3 SS

You do realize you won't see 500 rwtq unless you have more cubes/compression or a VERY happy dyno right?

Well I was planning on running higher compression when the time comes to do the TFS GenX heads and everything part I pick I'm going for the ones that promote TQ example the Pfadt Tri-Y headers, and if one of these "Dual Plenum" intakes that are coming out show to be better for TQ then a FAST or Stocker that's what I will go for. Also a cam that promotes TQ will be picked and the tune will be geared for that.

If I don't hit 500/500 I want to get as close as possible... like I said it's a "goal"...

I'd prefer 475/475 over 500/450 for my use.

litle88 · 11-25-2013, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Firefighter

Well what if I run them to just get me through the next year? Then when I do my Heads/Cam/Poss. Intake I go back to the stockers with upgraded trunion bearings.

I'm just looking to get as much power as possible for right now.

I'll be selling my heads when the new ones get thrown on. The rockers will go with them...

You'd still need better springs because those rockers will need more spring pressure, we don't want valve float.

Firefighter · 11-25-2013, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by litle88

You'd still need better springs because those rockers will need more spring pressure, we don't want valve float.

This SLP set up has springs with titanium retainers. I find it odd though they don't include pushrods nor do they mention them in their instructions. I find that concerning. Also $1100 that is concerning... lol

http://www.slponline.com/product/501...s-Keepers.html

litle88 · 11-25-2013, 11:56 AM

Oh wow! Yea I'd pass! Lol

That's enough to get your heads done.

11-24-2013, 10:54 PM	#7407
grocerygetter instigator Drives: 2020 6.2 Trail Boss, 2022 XC90 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: 72034 Posts: 3,979 View My Garage	if u buy used, buy one of the MT options. I think Padre is discussing selling all 4 of his tsw with tires too. __________________ -John S.

11-24-2013, 11:07 PM	#7408
TBone Negative Camber Junkie Drives: 2010 1SS LS3/6MN ABM 1 of 23 Join Date: May 2009 Location: ChiTown, IL Posts: 1,824	Firefighter, what have you done to your car so far? I am a road course guy too and I am just bolt ons (CAI, PTB, LT, HFC, Corsa;400RWHPish) and smoke a lot of guys at the track because of my suspension. I know someone who changed their rockers ratio when they did their cam and it did not help, in my opinion it hurt. These guys would know better but I would wait on that till you crack the engine and do your H/C/I. Little, if I keep the car, yes you can cam it. T. __________________ "Horsepower is something that looks great in a Magazine article, but suspension is what actually gets you around the track fast.." Jack Olsen The drag strip is like sniffing glue, it's cheap, it's a decent buzz, it doesn't last long and they are all the same. Road racing is like China White Heroin, the buzz is stronger, the high lasts for hours, it's extremely addictive and they are all different. I can't wait for my next Track fix. DA HAWKS OWN DA CUP!!!!!

11-25-2013, 12:11 AM	#7410
TBone Negative Camber Junkie Drives: 2010 1SS LS3/6MN ABM 1 of 23 Join Date: May 2009 Location: ChiTown, IL Posts: 1,824	FF, Good choice on the LT's but the UDP is a personal choice that I would not choose. I don't think the gain is worth the loss of your accessories, if you use your AC in FL you will understand. You already gained HP by having the electric steering but again that's me. I just never liked UDP's. The Brake upgrade is an EXCELLENT choice and one I am currently contemplating. I would also suggest Pedders bushings, minimum, and think about coilovers, optional. Since you live in a HOT state you should think about upgrading your radiator, oil cooler, trans cooler and some brake ducts. Also, do not get hung up on HP/TQ numbers like everyone else if you are focusing on the RC stuff but more on a durable valvetrain and usable TQ to get you out of the corners. Think Brian Tooley type stuff, Goo Goo him. With more and more folks focusing on Road Course and AutoX I kinda wish we had a section here on C5 dedicated to just that since it is kinda specialized. I am seeing more questions pop up here and there that could really populate it's own section. T. And since it is that time of year..... GO HAWKS!!!!!! __________________ "Horsepower is something that looks great in a Magazine article, but suspension is what actually gets you around the track fast.." Jack Olsen The drag strip is like sniffing glue, it's cheap, it's a decent buzz, it doesn't last long and they are all the same. Road racing is like China White Heroin, the buzz is stronger, the high lasts for hours, it's extremely addictive and they are all different. I can't wait for my next Track fix. DA HAWKS OWN DA CUP!!!!!

11-25-2013, 10:34 AM	#7415
jman17 Drives: 2011 SS-2/1969 SS Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Wichita, Kansas Posts: 147 View My Garage	I hope so. There are some other issues I know that the track has to or had to deal with before NHRA would go back for the National event. __________________ 1969 SS: SS/DA 427 CI/Auto 2011 SS-2 LS3 M6 MODS: P1X ProCharger, Squash dual fuel pumps, ID fuel injectors, Cam: Pat G designed/EPS Ground (228/234 .629”/.629” 114 LSA +4 advance), Lethal Racing ported throttle-body and intake manifold, Kooks 1 7/8” Long Tube Headers, Dynomax Bullet Cat-Back System, Skip Shift Eliminator

11-25-2013, 11:56 AM	#7420
litle88 V8 Lounge member #2 Drives: 2001 Ws6 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Burbank,IL Posts: 6,373	Oh wow! Yea I'd pass! Lol That's enough to get your heads done. __________________ 2001 ws6, 40k miles, Ls3 416 stroker, short block built by PER the rest by me. LPE Ls3 heads milled to 12-1 comp, FAST 102, NW 102, kooks 2", dual DMH cutouts, Magnaflow C/B, BTR cam + springs. Full UMI suspension.

11-24-2013, 11:20 PM	#7409
Firefighter Drives: Black '13 2SS/RS/1LE w/NPP/NAV Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Tampa by way of Miami... Posts: 4,934	TBone all I've done so far is a VMax TB and an ADM Race Intake (scoop) that's it for power the UDP and LT's will be on the way then a tune. Suspension just a 1LE with CTS-V/ZL1 brake upgrade, For now... As far as my goals long term is 500/500. I have Aero and Suspension stuff in the works...