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avellanet.jr · 12-01-2013, 10:14 PM

Bolt on.

Lydon@Redline · 12-01-2013, 10:47 PM

No question a bolt on. He has simply slightly modified the snout to "accept" the NW 102. Not to mention the little porting he has done is negligible in power gains at his power level.

Supercharged SS · 12-01-2013, 10:48 PM

100% bolt on.

KalCorp · 12-01-2013, 11:20 PM

Bolt on

Modern07 · 12-01-2013, 11:59 PM

If the category is "Bolt On without Internal Engine Modification" then how exactly could this be something even causing a discussion...there's nothing "internal engine" about it?!

LS1 Fun · 12-02-2013, 12:45 AM

You can buy a ported blower and just "bolt it on", just like you can "bolt on" a ported TB.

tpower · 12-02-2013, 07:56 AM

100% bolt on, nothing was touched internal in the engine. Supercharger is a external bolt on

hognutz · 12-02-2013, 01:03 PM

my vote was no.by this logic ported heads or cam would be consitered bolt on as which most people would say no.

most people consider bolt on. headers, intake, catback, TB, pulley, etc.

I consider bolt on anyting I can complete in my shop in a day tops. anthing I have to remove and then either send out or spend another day modifiing I consider a modification to the car.

by this logic a blower swap car would be considered a bolt on car as well. most people would can a ZL1 with a 4.0L whipple modified.

it is kind of semantics though as all of this stuff bolts on ha ha. so theoretically any mod is a bolt on. Last time I put a NOS kit on a car I bolted it on.

the snout I could be swayed on though for sure. porting the blower to me is no different than porting the heads.

Lydon@Redline · 12-02-2013, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hognutz

my vote was no.by this logic ported heads or cam would be consitered bolt on as which most people would say no.

most people consider bolt on. headers, intake, catback, TB, pulley, etc.

I consider bolt on anyting I can complete in my shop in a day tops. anthing I have to remove and then either send out or spend another day modifiing I consider a modification to the car.

by this logic a blower swap car would be considered a bolt on car as well. most people would can a ZL1 with a 4.0L whipple modified.

it is kind of semantics though as all of this stuff bolts on ha ha. so theoretically any mod is a bolt on. Last time I put a NOS kit on a car I bolted it on.

the snout I could be swayed on though for sure. porting the blower to me is no different than porting the heads.

The snout was "opened up" just enough to clear the blade on the 102 mm TB, not a full on port job. If anyone calls that an "advantage" then thats hilarious. There is little to no gains from opening up that small amount to clear the blade. Comparing this to a fully ported set of heads seems like a giant stretch.

name taker

Stephen12ZL1 · 12-02-2013, 01:41 PM

I don't think it was stated anywhere that it was a large advantage and I agree with the hilarious part too. Because of the factory supercharger, we just need input as to what is a "bolt on".

hognutz · 12-02-2013, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lydon@Redline

The snout was "opened up" just enough to clear the blade on the 102 mm TB, not a full on port job. If anyone calls that an "advantage" then thats hilarious. There is little to no gains from opening up that small amount to clear the blade. Comparing this to a fully ported set of heads seems like a giant stretch.

name taker

I could buy off on that for sure. I was more thinking the whole superchager assemly. even though it does bolt on the mondern lingo of bolt on kind of comes down to each individuals perspective.

Honeslty I could care less about the whole bolt on argument. run what you brought has always been my thinking. I could car less about what is done but the modern car culture really addopted the thinking for sue. roll racing is wierd to me as races should have a set start and a finish but it is here to stay as well.

I grew up building cars so this whole internet culture where it is practially "cheating" to go inside a motor just makes me laugh. that's hotrodding plain and simple who cares.

tpower · 12-02-2013, 08:59 PM

the class we are chasing is called

10) ZL1 Camaro, Bolt-Ons without Internal Engine Modification

joes407 · 12-03-2013, 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tpower

the class we are chasing is called

10) ZL1 Camaro, Bolt-Ons without Internal Engine Modification

i feel the pain chasing this class as it is so broad that people with just tires and an intake are competing with people with thousands of dollars in mods. i myself am probably going to be stuck in the spot im in for a while as i don't have any plans to further mod and im not going to run skinnies and slicks on my daily driver to close the giant gap between myself and #6 (t-power) on that list. that said i still feel that the ported blower is a bolt on and there are shops out there with ported ones they send you that you bolt on and send back the core same as a throttle body

Stephen12ZL1 · 12-03-2013, 09:48 AM

Wow...the vote is really close. I really didn't know what to expect. I will put a ported snout on my car if it is deemed to be a "bolt on" for sure so don't think for a second I am mad about the vote.

View Poll Results: What is considered a ZL1 "bolt on"?
Blower case porting and snout porting is a "bolt on"	48	40.34%
Blower case porting and snout porting is NOT a "bolt on"	71	59.66%
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12-01-2013, 11:59 PM	#33
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12-02-2013, 12:45 AM	#34
LS1 Fun Drives: 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: CA, USA Posts: 128	You can buy a ported blower and just "bolt it on", just like you can "bolt on" a ported TB. __________________ 1974 Cadillac Coupe DeVille 2002 Camaro Z28 A4 \| 10.80 @ 131 \| 383ci, D1SC, 4L80E, 9" 2013 Camaro ZL1 A6 \| 12.62 @ 113 \| Stock SOLD 2017 Lexus GS350F*

12-02-2013, 07:56 AM	#35
tpower DBLCHBY III Drives: 15 1LE Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Team Canada Posts: 2,789	100% bolt on, nothing was touched internal in the engine. Supercharger is a external bolt on __________________

12-02-2013, 01:03 PM	#36
hognutz Drives: 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: tangent or Posts: 2,985	my vote was no.by this logic ported heads or cam would be consitered bolt on as which most people would say no. most people consider bolt on. headers, intake, catback, TB, pulley, etc. I consider bolt on anyting I can complete in my shop in a day tops. anthing I have to remove and then either send out or spend another day modifiing I consider a modification to the car. by this logic a blower swap car would be considered a bolt on car as well. most people would can a ZL1 with a 4.0L whipple modified. it is kind of semantics though as all of this stuff bolts on ha ha. so theoretically any mod is a bolt on. Last time I put a NOS kit on a car I bolted it on. the snout I could be swayed on though for sure. porting the blower to me is no different than porting the heads. __________________ 2016 2SS 2020 super duty on 37's

12-01-2013, 10:14 PM	#29
avellanet.jr Emerald Coast Camaros Drives: 2014 ZL1 #77 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Crestview, FL Posts: 824	Bolt on.

12-01-2013, 10:47 PM	#30
Lydon@Redline Drives: Cts-v Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Pompano Beach Posts: 20	No question a bolt on. He has simply slightly modified the snout to "accept" the NW 102. Not to mention the little porting he has done is negligible in power gains at his power level.

12-01-2013, 10:48 PM	#31
Supercharged SS Account Suspended Drives: 2010 Camaro Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Sandy Hook, CT Posts: 11,926	100% bolt on.

12-01-2013, 11:20 PM	#32
KalCorp Space Coast Camaros Drives: 2012 Camaro Vert Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Palm Bay , FL Posts: 1,281	Bolt on

12-02-2013, 01:41 PM	#38
Stephen12ZL1 Drives: '21 ZLE A10 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Mechanicsville, VA Posts: 6,824	I don't think it was stated anywhere that it was a large advantage and I agree with the hilarious part too. Because of the factory supercharger, we just need input as to what is a "bolt on". __________________ '21 ZLE A10 Wild Cherry PDR 2:00.78 VIR Full 10.68@131.69 1.68 60' '17 ZL1 A10 Mosaic Black PDR/Nav 2:03.08 VIR Full 11.003@129.2 1.75 (sold) '15 Z/28 #325 Black a/c & stereo. 2:10.1 VIR Full (sold) '12 ZL1 A6 Black 10.52@131 1.55 60' 2:13 VIR Full (sold)

12-02-2013, 08:59 PM	#40
tpower DBLCHBY III Drives: 15 1LE Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Team Canada Posts: 2,789	the class we are chasing is called 10) ZL1 Camaro, Bolt-Ons without Internal Engine Modification __________________

12-03-2013, 09:48 AM	#42
Stephen12ZL1 Drives: '21 ZLE A10 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Mechanicsville, VA Posts: 6,824	Wow...the vote is really close. I really didn't know what to expect. I will put a ported snout on my car if it is deemed to be a "bolt on" for sure so don't think for a second I am mad about the vote. __________________ '21 ZLE A10 Wild Cherry PDR 2:00.78 VIR Full 10.68@131.69 1.68 60' '17 ZL1 A10 Mosaic Black PDR/Nav 2:03.08 VIR Full 11.003@129.2 1.75 (sold) '15 Z/28 #325 Black a/c & stereo. 2:10.1 VIR Full (sold) '12 ZL1 A6 Black 10.52@131 1.55 60' 2:13 VIR Full (sold)