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grocerygetter · 12-12-2013, 11:43 PM

I also like LGs...had those on my ls1 vette.

mikeyg36 · 12-12-2013, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by litle88

Cause I don't have first hand experience with them, but ARH, kooks I do.
I can't say anything about then ya know?

Oh okay I thought you didn't like the Pfadt. Nevermind.

TBone · 12-13-2013, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by litle88

Kooks stepped or kooks
Second choice ARH

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Originally Posted by grocerygetter

This

Seconded.

In hindsight for mine the only thing I would do different is I would get mine coated.

T.

axis · 12-13-2013, 08:41 AM

Why are Kooks out of the question? I'm not sold on the stepped headers but the regular Kooks are good. Is TSP out of the question as well? Very nice for the price and getting them coated will be the cheapest option of them all.

grocerygetter · 12-13-2013, 09:49 AM

my ONLY issue with TSP is every now and then you are tweaking and dinging or moving a motor to get them to clear. Not always. I would guess it is a QC issue. That's why I didn't chance 'em. Not a HP issue at all.

Firefighter · 12-13-2013, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by axis

Why are Kooks out of the question? I'm not sold on the stepped headers but the regular Kooks are good. Is TSP out of the question as well? Very nice for the price and getting them coated will be the cheapest option of them all.

Personally I went with the Pfadts because they were cheaper than the Kooks "stepped" the two designs Stepped and Tri-Y both historically promote TQ. The Kooks (last time I checked) would have run just shy of $2K where I got the Pfadts on a Black Friday sale from JDP for $1199 then another $160 for coating.

I don't think anyone can argue with the Quality of the Pfadts and the theory between the design is sound to me but it can be debated by the Marketing Departments of the header companies while I'm burning gas.

Birm · 12-13-2013, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by mikeyg36

Well I'm about to pull the trigger on that and a tuner, and Matt said to go with Pfadt. Then I saw that thread about how Tri-Ys are pretty useless and now I can't decide

Different strokes for different folks brother. I like the Tri-Y's, I have seen them, installed them, and seen the power curves. They are all compariable. I likeTri-Y's personally, but you cannot go wrong AT ALL with either.

ARH are great as well. You are going to make the same compariable power out of all of them ARH/Kooks/Pfadt/SW. TO ME Pfadt is the sexiest, and from what I have PERSONALLY installed, were the best fitting.

(I have done 3 sets in my camaro club-TBC)

thahemp · 12-13-2013, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by grocerygetter

my ONLY issue with TSP is every now and then you are tweaking and dinging or moving a motor to get them to clear. Not always. I would guess it is a QC issue. That's why I didn't chance 'em. Not a HP issue at all.

That's true for all brands. Not sure I've seen anyone dicking with the Pfadts yet, but I'm sure if we give them some more time the threads will pop up.

jman17 · 12-13-2013, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Firefighter

Personally I went with the Pfadts because they were cheaper than the Kooks "stepped" the two designs Stepped and Tri-Y both historically promote TQ. The Kooks (last time I checked) would have run just shy of $2K where I got the Pfadts on a Black Friday sale from JDP for $1199 then another $160 for coating.

I don't think anyone can argue with the Quality of the Pfadts and the theory between the design is sound to me but it can be debated by the Marketing Departments of the header companies while I'm burning gas.

I paid right at $1200 for my 1 7/8" Kooks with cats.

Nightmare2012 · 12-13-2013, 11:18 AM

I had arh before I upgraded to 2" tsp and I loved my arh I was just not willing to pay that big price tag over again lol arch I didn't have to mess with the motor at all they just slid right in with the tsp I had to remove the steering shaft in order for them to clear, but once bolted up it seemed like a perfect fit no rubbing whatsoever they do hang a bit low so if you're lowered watch out for bumps.

SolomonAKOO · 12-13-2013, 12:06 PM

I didn't have any issues with my TSP headers. Really the only problem was I used a floor jack and didn't get the car high enough at first so I fought them but soon as I got it up a bit more they slid right in. I have plenty of clearance on both sides and haven't had a problem yet.

TornadoSS · 12-13-2013, 12:58 PM

I have no issues with my ARH. Great quality and dropped right in with no fitment issues. No tweaking anything to fit.

BlaqWhole · 12-13-2013, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by thahemp

That's true for all brands. Not sure I've seen anyone dicking with the Pfadts yet, but I'm sure if we give them some more time the threads will pop up.

I think it happens a little more often with the TSP 2 inch headers...but that is because they are 2 inch afterall. Even the other company that makes 2 inch (SW I think) had issues every now and then with fitment. Thats why I didn't get the TSPs my first time around. Next time I will.

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Originally Posted by Nightmare2012

I had arh before I upgraded to 2" tsp and I loved my arh I was just not willing to pay that big price tag over again lol arch I didn't have to mess with the motor at all they just slid right in with the tsp I had to remove the steering shaft in order for them to clear, but once bolted up it seemed like a perfect fit no rubbing whatsoever they do hang a bit low so if you're lowered watch out for bumps.

I read that someone else had to remove the steering shaft to get 2 inch headers in...or maybe that was just you in another thread, lol! But that is what impacted my decision not to get 2 inch.

Nightmare2012 · 12-13-2013, 02:40 PM

Lol no not me I haven't said anything bout my header install that was the easiest part of this whole stressful build ha.

12-12-2013, 11:43 PM	#7799
grocerygetter instigator Drives: 2020 6.2 Trail Boss, 2022 XC90 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: 72034 Posts: 3,979 View My Garage	I also like LGs...had those on my ls1 vette. __________________ -John S.

12-13-2013, 08:41 AM	#7802
axis Search Ninja Drives: 2010 Black 2SS/RS A6 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Central Ark Posts: 7,183	Why are Kooks out of the question? I'm not sold on the stepped headers but the regular Kooks are good. Is TSP out of the question as well? Very nice for the price and getting them coated will be the cheapest option of them all. __________________ 2010 Black 2SS/RS A6 Halltech CF 102 fed GPI modded intake manifold Bo (knows) White ported TB Kooks LT's/ Dynomax VT Pfadted (springs/sways) Dyno tuned by Rhino and GPI I once parallel parked a train.

12-13-2013, 09:49 AM	#7803
grocerygetter instigator Drives: 2020 6.2 Trail Boss, 2022 XC90 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: 72034 Posts: 3,979 View My Garage	my ONLY issue with TSP is every now and then you are tweaking and dinging or moving a motor to get them to clear. Not always. I would guess it is a QC issue. That's why I didn't chance 'em. Not a HP issue at all. __________________ -John S.

12-13-2013, 12:06 PM	#7809
SolomonAKOO Drives: 2011 2SS/RS Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Wyoming Posts: 1,210 View My Garage	I didn't have any issues with my TSP headers. Really the only problem was I used a floor jack and didn't get the car high enough at first so I fought them but soon as I got it up a bit more they slid right in. I have plenty of clearance on both sides and haven't had a problem yet. __________________ 1 7/8" TSP headers straight piped, Custom Tick Performance cam w/ supporting mods, 1" BMR springs and other BMR suspension mods. Tuned with HPtuners by Matt@FSP

12-13-2013, 12:58 PM	#7810
TornadoSS WICKDSS Drives: 2011 1SS/RS IOM LS3 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Wichita, Kansas Posts: 1,111 View My Garage	I have no issues with my ARH. Great quality and dropped right in with no fitment issues. No tweaking anything to fit. __________________ 2011 IOM SS/RS, M6. Look up our all generation Camaro club website at Heartland Camaros Gforce Engineering Drivetrain, ECS 1500 Supercharger, TSP Cam, Alky Controls Meth single nozzle. 91 octane, 698 RWHP 625 rwtq. 4200#+, Tuned by Justin "Justune" Kalwei 11.57 @ 126.8 mph with a crappy 1.80 60'.....still learning to drive....M&H DR's and skinnies on 17" Welds.

12-13-2013, 11:18 AM	#7808
Nightmare2012 come find out;) Drives: stockish 2012 camaro ss Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: speed county Posts: 2,166 View My Garage	I had arh before I upgraded to 2" tsp and I loved my arh I was just not willing to pay that big price tag over again lol arch I didn't have to mess with the motor at all they just slid right in with the tsp I had to remove the steering shaft in order for them to clear, but once bolted up it seemed like a perfect fit no rubbing whatsoever they do hang a bit low so if you're lowered watch out for bumps.

12-13-2013, 02:40 PM	#7812
Nightmare2012 come find out;) Drives: stockish 2012 camaro ss Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: speed county Posts: 2,166 View My Garage	Lol no not me I haven't said anything bout my header install that was the easiest part of this whole stressful build ha.