01-03-2014, 01:05 PM | #155 |
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The Z/28 is, after all is said and done, our one and only all mighty true performance "Superhero" model in the Camaro family.
We all cannot be a superhero nor can we all drive a superhero's car, but we all need a superhero to look up to and aspire to be like one if only just in our dreams. I dream of ZR1's and Z/28's in the same light, if I had the means, I would definitely pickup one of each. I need to play and WIN the lottery because I'm dreaming that dream again.LOL.
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01-03-2014, 01:05 PM | #156 | |
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01-03-2014, 01:10 PM | #157 |
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PRICING comparo...
OK, some historical perspective on Gen-5 Z/28 Pricing:
The closest possible version ALMOST available was the proposed (2 prototypes built, Black with Gold stripes) '69 COPO 9567. Here's what it would have been included: [EDIT from here - http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=55107 ] Standard options slated for production COPO 9567 ZL-1Special Camaros included: Tuxedo Black paint with Special Gold striping ZL-1 Street Detuned Engine Z22 Rally Sport M21 (M22 Optional) 4-spd manual or Heavy Duty M40 3-spd automatic transmission J52 Power Disc Brakes - Front only N40 Power Steering D55 Center Console U16 Tachometer F41 Special Performance Suspension ZN2 COPO 9567 Springs G80 Positraction (4.10 ratio w/M21 or 3.55 ratio w/M40) K85 61 Amp Generator K66 Transistor Ignition D80 Auxiliary Valance Panel (Rear Spoiler) Wider Front Bumper Valance Panel (Front Spoiler) VE3 Special Front Bumper (only Prototype “B” had this) Racing Type Mirrors (Only Prototype “B” had these? – Can’t tell from photos. Prototype “A” did not.) Exhaust Resonators Tail Pipe Extensions Special Steering Wheel F-70-15B Nylon Blackwall w/Gold Lettered Tires 15x7 Wheels (Prototype “B” had 15x8s in the rear) Special Hub Caps & Wheel Nuts Wheel Trim Rings Fender Splash Guards (Prototype cars did not have these) Special Striping, Decals for the Hood, Grille & Rear End Panel (The grille lettering was slightly different for each of the two prototype cars – see pictures below) Wheel Opening Mouldings Deleted (only Prototype “B” had these deleted) Special Instrument Cluster (for Transistor Ignition) Other Features of RPO L-78 except Fender Emblems The COPO 9567 cars were already slated to sell for $8581.60 for the (M21) 4-spd version and $8676.60 for the (M40) 3-spd automatic version. [M22 + $100] I believe that because there was more to the COPO 9567 ZL-1 Special Camaro than simply adding and deleting existing components (the process used for building a COPO 9560 Camaro), it required more lead-time within GM to make the car a reality. There was artwork to be done, badging to be made, and another batch of engines to produce, amongst other things. Given the reaction to pricing on the 9560 cars, the proposed price for a COPO 9567 was also too high. Exactly how close the COPO 9567 Camaro actually came to production is unknown, but from the documentation I’ve accumulated, it’s clear that Chevrolet was more than just considering building these cars. They had done a significant amount of planning, engineering, prototyping, and pricing of them to clearly show that the car was ready to go to production. NO 4WDB-CC/ABS/TC/StabiliTrak/Airbags/5mph bumpers/GG Tax/Crash Testing/P. Windows-Locks-Tilt-Cruise-forged alum. wheels-Radial tires etc. CPI - 1/01/1969 to 1/01/2014 = 6.50 X $8681.60 [M22] = $56,500. 4WDB (if available w/HD 12-bolt, which they weren't) @ $500 X 6.5 = $3,250 extra, theoretically... So, a '69 car without 4.5 DECADES of technological improvements @ $60Gs, today, MINUS a LOT! This makes a $75,000 all-in number very respectable. Not what I personally hoped for ($65-ish before Fr/GG, so off by 10%), but very respectable. Especially for a short production run... Last edited by LOWDOWN; 01-03-2014 at 01:55 PM. |
01-03-2014, 01:17 PM | #158 |
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I'm with LOWDOWN on this. Perfect post, point well taken and makes perfect sense all the way through. Nice find and good perspective.
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I wish you could opt out of the alleged $15,000 worth of brakes and wheels/tires. Put 1LE rolling stock and brembos on it (or even stock ss wheels/P-Zeros/brembos) to reduce the price by 15 grand and we'd all be lining up to buy one.
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01-03-2014, 01:30 PM | #160 |
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I hear you...but then it wouldn't be the Z/28 we're all about to experience...and, again, there are valid reasons why the car is equipped as it is...
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01-03-2014, 01:33 PM | #162 |
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Sweet. Im in.
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Yep, just like they did with the $54,995 662hp/200mph GT500 shortly after the ZL1 debuted. They love taking the wind out of our sails... you can bet they'll do it again.
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01-03-2014, 01:41 PM | #165 |
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Folks, it's a game of Leap Frog...we build, they build, we build...
Gen-6 is not all that far off, so whatever Dearborn has planned, you can be sure the midnight oil is blazing in Warren, too... Wait'll you hear about the Z06 @ NAIAS...and then just imagine some of that trickle-down tech on an Alpha-based Camaro... Last I heard, Stielow 'n co. haven't retired... |
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You will see it this year. 2015 is also the 50th anniversary of the GT350.
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