2014 Camaro Z/28 pricing announced at $75,000

[Angrybird 12]

Originally Posted by LOWDOWN

Don't be angry, Angrybird.

He didn't.

He does...

Re Z28 vs. Z/28: THIS one has a slash...

I misread his post notice I deleted mine.

[charlie46]

75 k plus another 1k for air conditioning = 76 k plus tax = 80 k, way too much money for a Camaro. Disappointing when you can buy a new vette with the Z51 package for the same money.

[mlee]

Originally Posted by charlie46

75 k plus another 1k for air conditioning = 76 k plus tax = 80 k, way too much money for a Camaro. Disappointing when you can buy a new vette with the Z51 package for the same money.

Not if you want a Camaro... the two are completely different cars. Wait until you see the price of the Z06.

The days of the vette always being top dog are over.

[E.T.]

Too much money, IMO. In this price range, it's competing with lots of cars that offer performance AND luxury. Even if it lost some weight, this thing is still too damn heavy.

[LOWDOWN]

Originally Posted by Angrybird 12

I misread his post notice I deleted mine.

I thought you might and, therefore, didn't "copy"...

[Col. Brain]

Originally Posted by mlee

Not if you want a Camaro... the two are completely different cars. Wait until you see the price of the Z06.

The days of the vette always being top dog are over.

the ZR1 and Z07 are still faster than the Z/28 around the ring (only thing to compare times with).

The Vette is the top dog. And the new Z06 will probably push 100k easily.

[mlee]

Originally Posted by Col. Brain

the ZR1 and Z07 are still faster than the Z/28 around the ring (only thing to compare times with).

The Vette is the top dog. And the new Z06 will probably push 100k easily.

Well there you go... the price is right. You can't go out and buy a vette with this much for the same price.

...as I said the Vette isn't ALWAYS top dog anymore like it used to be. Sometimes it is and you pay the price to get it.

Disappointing when you can buy a new vette with the Z51 package for the same money.

[LOWDOWN]

Although we're already on Page 8, and many folks have yet to have their say, I'm sure this thread will go on for awhile...and no doubt this post will get lost in the mists of 1st Amendment opportunities. So...

The Z/28 has been revealed (like it or not), and now the price has followed (ditto)...

1) A LOT of car, keeping with the added content...and the added S/L/A/S/H.

2) NOT designed for everyone...just as the original wasn't...

3) NOT priced for every budget...but fairly-priced, for content...

SS for the everyday person who wants style and performance for everyday usage

1LE for those who truly enjoy the driving experience, and who want "something extra"

ZL1 for those who want even "more", and can afford it, without sacrifice

Z/28 for those who won't compromise when it comes to all-out cornering capabilities, and who have the budget to back that up

What's left, this-Gen?

How about a 1LE-type V6?! My long-lamented "Z36" (slash optional). That's the only "hole" I see...

That might be a terrific edition to launch with the Gen-6...along with ALL the other fan-favorites...

[2cnd chance]

Originally Posted by LOWDOWN

OK, some historical perspective on Gen-5 Z/28 Pricing:

The closest possible version ALMOST available was the proposed (2 prototypes built, Black with Gold stripes) '69 COPO 9567. Here's what it would have been included:

[EDIT from here - http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=55107 ]

Standard options slated for production COPO 9567 ZL-1Special Camaros included:
Tuxedo Black paint with Special Gold striping
ZL-1 Street Detuned Engine
Z22 Rally Sport
M21 (M22 Optional) 4-spd manual or Heavy Duty M40 3-spd automatic transmission
J52 Power Disc Brakes - Front only
N40 Power Steering
D55 Center Console
U16 Tachometer
F41 Special Performance Suspension
ZN2 COPO 9567 Springs
G80 Positraction (4.10 ratio w/M21 or 3.55 ratio w/M40)
K85 61 Amp Generator
K66 Transistor Ignition
D80 Auxiliary Valance Panel (Rear Spoiler)
Wider Front Bumper Valance Panel (Front Spoiler)
VE3 Special Front Bumper (only Prototype “B” had this)
Racing Type Mirrors (Only Prototype “B” had these? – Can’t tell from photos. Prototype “A” did not.)
Exhaust Resonators
Tail Pipe Extensions
Special Steering Wheel
F-70-15B Nylon Blackwall w/Gold Lettered Tires
15x7 Wheels (Prototype “B” had 15x8s in the rear)
Special Hub Caps & Wheel Nuts
Wheel Trim Rings
Fender Splash Guards (Prototype cars did not have these)
Special Striping, Decals for the Hood, Grille & Rear End Panel (The grille lettering was slightly different for each of the two prototype cars – see pictures below)
Wheel Opening Mouldings Deleted (only Prototype “B” had these deleted)
Special Instrument Cluster (for Transistor Ignition)
Other Features of RPO L-78 except Fender Emblems
The COPO 9567 cars were already slated to sell for $8581.60 for the (M21) 4-spd version and $8676.60 for the (M40) 3-spd automatic version. [M22 + $100]

I believe that because there was more to the COPO 9567 ZL-1 Special Camaro than simply adding and deleting existing components (the process used for building a COPO 9560 Camaro), it required more lead-time within GM to make the car a reality. There was artwork to be done, badging to be made, and another batch of engines to produce, amongst other things. Given the reaction to pricing on the 9560 cars, the proposed price for a COPO 9567 was also too high.

Exactly how close the COPO 9567 Camaro actually came to production is unknown, but from the documentation I’ve accumulated, it’s clear that Chevrolet was more than just considering building these cars. They had done a significant amount of planning, engineering, prototyping, and pricing of them to clearly show that the car was ready to go to production.

NO 4WDB-CC/ABS/TC/StabiliTrak/Airbags/5mph bumpers/GG Tax/Crash Testing/P. Windows-Locks-Tilt-Cruise-forged alum. wheels-Radial tires etc.

CPI - 1/01/1969 to 1/01/2014 = 6.50 X $8681.60 [M22] = $56,500. 4WDB (if available w/HD 12-bolt, which they weren't) @ $500 X 6.5 = $3,250 extra, theoretically...

So, a '69 car without 4.5 DECADES of technological improvements @ $60Gs, today, MINUS a LOT!

This makes a $75,000 all-in number very respectable. Not what I personally hoped for ($65-ish before Fr/GG, so off by 10%), but very respectable.

Especially for a short production run...

Nice post!

I put the new Z/28 in the very same category as this COPO. It's an "exotic domestic". By the way that's trademarked.

[Mikebrinda]

The 2014-15 Z/28 will mimic the pricing pattern (in % terms) and ownership profile of the 2004 - 2006 Ford GT. As such, if you want to see the future of this Z/28, review the history of the Ford GT.

Note the greatest influence on Ford GT resale pricing was/is the state of the economy. So, if you do not get yourself a new Z/28 at MSRP, just hang around until the economy takes another dump.

[2cnd chance]

Originally Posted by LOWDOWN

Although we're already on Page 8, and many folks have yet to have their say, I'm sure this thread will go on for awhile...and no doubt this post will get lost in the mists of 1st Amendment opportunities. So...

The Z/28 has been revealed (like it or not), and now the price has followed (ditto)...

1) A LOT of car, keeping with the added content...and the added SLASH.

2) NOT designed for everyone...just as the original wasn't...

3) NOT priced for every budget...

SS for the everyday person who wants style and performance for everyday usage

1LE for those who truly enjoy the driving experience, and who want "something extra"

ZL1 for those who want even "more", and can afford it, without sacrifice

Z/28 for those who won't compromise when it comes to all-out cornering capabilities, and who have the budget to back that up

What's left, this-Gen?

How about a 1LE-type V6?! My long-lamented "Z36" (slash optional). That's the only "hole" I see...

That might be a terrific edition to launch with the Gen-6...along with ALL the other fan-favorites...

I'd like to see the SEMA V8 concept released as a 2LE option.

[el ess A]

Originally Posted by LOWDOWN

How about a 1LE-type V6?! My long-lamented "Z36" (slash optional). That's the only "hole" I see...

That might be a terrific edition to launch with the Gen-6...along with ALL the other fan-favorites...

I think that the "almost" 1LE package (wheels/tires) can be ordered for your non 1LE now, if I understand it correctly. And I'm not sure it's limited to V8, unless I'm wrong...which I am...a lot. Maybe that's a start.

[2cnd chance]

This also shows GM reaching for a new customer. And also competing with another level of performance car.

[mlee]

Originally Posted by LOWDOWN

Although we're already on Page 8, and many folks have yet to have their say, I'm sure this thread will go on for awhile...and no doubt this post will get lost in the mists of 1st Amendment opportunities. So...

The Z/28 has been revealed (like it or not), and now the price has followed (ditto)...

1) A LOT of car, keeping with the added content...and the added S/L/A/S/H.

2) NOT designed for everyone...just as the original wasn't...

3) NOT priced for every budget...but fairly-priced, for content...

SS for the everyday person who wants style and performance for everyday usage

1LE for those who truly enjoy the driving experience, and who want "something extra"

ZL1 for those who want even "more", and can afford it, without sacrifice

Z/28 for those who won't compromise when it comes to all-out cornering capabilities, and who have the budget to back that up

What's left, this-Gen?

How about a 1LE-type V6?! My long-lamented "Z36" (slash optional). That's the only "hole" I see...

That might be a terrific edition to launch with the Gen-6...along with ALL the other fan-favorites...

Great Post... GM Performance Parts covered the 1LE-V6 type car. In fact it's one of the biggest selling points of those particular parts. Albeit not factory installed but lots of add-ons are dealer options.

Bottom line is I think they covered it all with the 5TH GEN. Perfect Lineup..