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Old 01-19-2014, 09:43 PM   #57
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Sooo, what your saying is every bolt on L99 car that wants to run the quickest should get a generic off the shelf Yank SS 3200 and no custom built converter matched to the cars mods is going to run quicker? Bro, it looks as if you wasted $300 and probably your time with the converter company that speced it out for you. Hey everyone look, you can go ahead and forget those $1,100 converters because a run of the mill SS series Yank with only a 3200 stall will make your car the fastest . This bad ass converter will give you a staggering .1 tenth of a second in elapsed time and be the most efficient converter on the market. You will not run any faster with any other converter. If he couldn't have gone faster with a better converter matched for his car then that's pretty sad. I have a SS series Yank and it is not all that, trust me.

Terry, be honest. Do you think you could have gone faster with a custom built converter or is the Yank SS 3200 the be all end all?
A Yank will give you a better ET, so yeah Terry's car would run a slower ET but a better 60ft with a Circle-D. Dude you talk a lot of shit for someone running 12.40s in a cammed stalled car lol now that is SAD
If YOU haven't tested or a tech/tuner GTFO with your explanation replys you are making yourself look bad my friend
Talk to me when you run 11s
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Old 01-19-2014, 09:57 PM   #58
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Old 01-19-2014, 10:12 PM   #59
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A Yank will give you a better ET, so yeah Terry's car would run a slower ET but a better 60ft with a Circle-D. Dude you talk a lot of shit for someone running 12.40s in a cammed stalled car lol now that is SAD
If YOU haven't tested or a tech/tuner GTFO with your explanation replys you are making yourself look bad my friend
Talk to me when you run 11s
I'm not going to lie that my car is slow and sad and I ran just as quick as this one with a full bolt on 4th gen so this car is indeed pretty sad but I have never seen anything close to negative DA and have always been 100% full weight including the stock wheels. Have also gone a best of 12.2 with 4000 DA. Trust me when I say that 12.2 is about all your going to get when you are only able to trap 113mph with a 275/40R20 NT555R and a shitty track. I'm no Terry but I do know how to race. My tuner was the same as one of CamaroJT's as well. My converter is the same type as this supposedly super efficient Yank SS series as well. I don't like to make excuses but it is what it is. Plus that engine is gone with a new one in the works. I have no idea who you are (probably someone here on another account) but I'm sure you feel like a big man making fun of me/my car behind your computer with no way for me to know what car you have or have done or not done with it.

It's amazing how I try to compliment a guy on his accomplishment but then others get all butt hurt by it. Sorry your thread got F'ed up Terry.
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Old 01-19-2014, 10:26 PM   #60
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A Yank will give you a better ET, so yeah Terry's car would run a slower ET but a better 60ft with a Circle-D. Dude you talk a lot of shit for someone running 12.40s in a cammed stalled car lol now that is SAD
If YOU haven't tested or a tech/tuner GTFO with your explanation replys you are making yourself look bad my friend
Talk to me when you run 11s
your crazy, IMO I think that a yank will give a better ET I don't have a way of showing it but I personally think a Circle-D will give out a better 60ft but thats my guess.
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Old 01-19-2014, 10:30 PM   #61
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I'm not going to lie that my car is slow and sad and I ran just as quick as this one with a full bolt on 4th gen so this car is indeed pretty sad but I have never seen anything close to negative DA and have always been 100% full weight including the stock wheels. Have also gone a best of 12.2 with 4000 DA. Trust me when I say that 12.2 is about all your going to get when you are only able to trap 113mph with a 275/40R20 NT555R and a shitty track. I'm no Terry but I do know how to race. My tuner was the same as one of CamaroJT's as well. My converter is the same type as this supposedly super efficient Yank SS series as well. I don't like to make excuses but it is what it is. Plus that engine is gone with a new one in the works. I have no idea who you are (probably someone here on another account) but I'm sure you feel like a big man making fun of me/my car behind your computer with no way for me to know what car you have or have done or not done with it.

It's amazing how I try to compliment a guy on his accomplishment but then others get all butt hurt by it. Sorry your thread got F'ed up Terry.
There's a lot of factors really, JT ran 11.90s @ 3600+ DA @ 104* this summer. Just need the right tire combo to get a great time IMO. Bet if you ever make a trip to a different track your times would be way different.
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Old 01-19-2014, 11:19 PM   #62
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I never said anything about if you two traded converters what it would run. I said I feel confident his car would run faster with a better converter and that's why I thought his trap speed and ET were so damn impressive. I never even meant to compare you two until you did it.

Sooo, what your saying with me being crazy is every bolt on L99 car that wants to run the quickest should get a generic off the shelf Yank SS 3200 and no custom built converter matched to the cars mods is going to run quicker? Bro, it looks as if you wasted $300 and probably your time with the converter company that speced it out for you. Hey everyone look, you can go ahead and forget those $1,100 converters because a run of the mill SS series Yank with only a 3200 stall will make your car the fastest . This bad ass converter will give you a staggering .1 tenth of a second in elapsed time and be the most efficient converter on the market. You will not run any faster with any other converter. If he couldn't have gone faster with a better converter matched for his car then that's pretty sad. I have a SS series Yank and it is not all that, trust me.

Terry, be honest. Do you think you could have gone faster with a custom built converter or is the Yank SS 3200 the be all end all?
To end this discussion about locked vs unlocked, or Yank vs Circle D, the bottom line is....there is not 1 correct answer! The Yank 3200 is definitely not the END ALL converter. It's just a converter that he's running. The reason why it's a good converter for his set up is Bc it is a good match for his combination.
It doesn't matter if its my converter or just A converter that he swaps too. My point was that by just having a triple disc locked, you don't automatically gain avg 2mph over his 3200 yank just Bc he was single disc and unlocked.

It's called a trade off. you get less efficient thru the gears to gain a little more efficiency on the top end. So what you gain by being locked up top, you have already traded it off by losing some momentum or mph thru the first 1/8.
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Old 01-19-2014, 11:30 PM   #63
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JT,

Now you did it....... since you have been beat, I will leave this for you....

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Don't mess with the MASTER of the MONKEY !!!!!

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JT,

Now you did it....... since you have been beat, I will leave this for you....

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Don't mess with the MASTER of the MONKEY !!!!!

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Lol I hope my Monkey pic made you proud!!
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Old 01-20-2014, 12:01 AM   #65
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I can appreciate Vader's passion for this stuff, but unless you can go quicker than these guys, you are a student just like me.

For all of my 4th gen experience (I co-founded LS1Tech) I will tell you that Rhino and a few other guys really have a handle on this NA 5th gen stuff. I'm also a fan of Rick Crawford who's been making G8's fast and now some Camaros too.

For all the converters I've had over the years (Circle D; Yank; Precision; ATI; etc) I can't make any generalizations on the 5th gen. I'm frankly grateful to have gotten so much advice from Jeff (Camarojt), Ryan (Rhino), Rick, Dan (white zl1) and Motion from Canada. I like Terry too I've certainly asked you a lot of questions over the last year and a half.

I've got a buddy who went 10.8x with a LS3 A6 auto C6 with bolt-ons, so I always figured the L99s would go 11.7's maybe .6's, but .44 in negative DA I'm still surprised. I still don't get where all the MPH is coming from but I like it.

Let's all have fun.

Now I kinda want to see someone bag an 11.39.
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I build the engine and crew chief for a X275 Drag Radial car and have been racing sense the late 70's. We test transmissions and converters all the time. At the end of last season for the biggest race of the year we changed the trans. and converter 5 times to get it right and we ran low ET of eliminations (4.59 @ 156.75 in the 1/8) mile and won the race! So yes my car could run faster with a different converter but that's the converter I put in it to have good street manners! But the Yank SS3200 has done well for what it is it has ran a 1.57 60ft. And for my N/A set up the better converter would not be a triple disk!!
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Thing that was making me nuts was I helped with a 315 ODR car and it's gone 1.19 but I couldn't get my car to go better than 1.66 I kept spinning most of the time. My 1.70 12.06 was me stalling it up and rolling out like I was racing on the street. 62nalide kinda said he lauched a hair above idle and when he stalled it up he would blow the tires off.

I'll try my car as is in April and try other launches but if it doesn't work I'm getting slicks.
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Thing that was making me nuts was I helped with a 315 ODR car and it's gone 1.19 but I couldn't get my car to go better than 1.66 I kept spinning most of the time. My 1.70 12.06 was me stalling it up and rolling out like I was racing on the street. 62nalide kinda said he lauched a hair above idle and when he stalled it up he would blow the tires off.

I'll try my car as is in April and try other launches but if it doesn't work I'm getting slicks.
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Thing that was making me nuts was I helped with a 315 ODR car and it's gone 1.19 but I couldn't get my car to go better than 1.66 I kept spinning most of the time. My 1.70 12.06 was me stalling it up and rolling out like I was racing on the street. 62nalide kinda said he lauched a hair above idle and when he stalled it up he would blow the tires off.

I'll try my car as is in April and try other launches but if it doesn't work I'm getting slicks.
This was today BTW, launched between 800-1000rpms. This was another 1.61 60ft but on a 27" tire
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Thing that was making me nuts was I helped with a 315 ODR car and it's gone 1.19 but I couldn't get my car to go better than 1.66 I kept spinning most of the time. My 1.70 12.06 was me stalling it up and rolling out like I was racing on the street. 62nalide kinda said he lauched a hair above idle and when he stalled it up he would blow the tires off.

I'll try my car as is in April and try other launches but if it doesn't work I'm getting slicks.
We go 1.12 to 1.14 60fts on the 275's!
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