Help me rebuild ......... what to buy ... what to re-use... etc.

[PQ]

That is using my current rods and pistons and crank.

[Supercharged SS]

Originally Posted by PQ

That is using my current rods and pistons and crank.

Buy new forged rods and pistons. They aren't a lot of money. Then you are done for gd.

Have the machine shop build the short block then you reinstall it. It'll be half your 8k guesstimate.

[PQ]

Originally Posted by Supercharged SS

Now I'm confused. Put it back together with forged pistons and rods. Using your block and your crank. That won't cost much plus it will handle more boost than your blower can make.


Don't reinstall anything but the crank. A machine shop could assemble and do the machine work for not a ton of cash.

You can have a built ls3 for a couple of bucks. Not 8 grand.

Well the whole picture is that my whole valvetrain and all already have 100k miles on them. While it's down I just figured to get new stuff in would make sense. Then I could take my time and rebuild the other engine in the garage.

I don't think I can put it back together with forged internals, new cam and valvetrain components and have my block cleaned and honed for under 4 or 5k.

Unless I"m missing something. I've priced the parts and work.

[PQ]

I guesstimated having my block readied, buying forged pistons and rods and new bearings and having the crank turned plus the new cam and valvetrain components with the heads reworked to be around 6k anyway.

You think it can be done cheaper?

I honestly don't know, if so then great but I had done the research a while back.

[Supercharged SS]

Originally Posted by PQ

Well the whole picture is that my whole valvetrain and all already have 100k miles on them. While it's down I just figured to get new stuff in would make sense. Then I could take my time and rebuild the other engine in the garage.

I don't think I can put it back together with forged internals, new cam and valvetrain components and have my block cleaned and honed for under 4 or 5k.

Unless I"m missing something. I've priced the parts and work.

Originally Posted by PQ

I guesstimated having my block readied, buying forged pistons and rods and new bearings and having the crank turned plus the new cam and valvetrain components with the heads reworked to be around 6k anyway.

You think it can be done cheaper?

I honestly don't know, if so then great but I had done the research a while back.

I think that it's doable but if you've done the leg work then who am I to argue. I'm going to pm you something. You might find it interesting.

[PQ]

Originally Posted by Supercharged SS

I think that it's doable but if you've done the leg work then who am I to argue. I'm going to pm you something. You might find it interesting.

Ok.


Ya, now the valvetrain and head work can be reused later but the money I'd spend on the block work is between 3 and 4k. It all needs to be redone anyway so I figured why not do it now.

I was thinking the Livernoise set up would be worth the extra 3 to 4k to have it all done at once but that's just out of my price range right now. After injectors, fuel pump and tune I'd be over 11k. I'd just as soon do it now for 8k if I can. If these crate engines are not a good idea then maybe I shouldn't do it.

Which is why I post it to ask.

[PQ]

I did not consider the cam specs.

Grrrrrrrrr...........................

[Matt @ FSP]

My head hurts after talking to Jamie too much today...

PQ if you need any info man just give me a quick PM

[PQ]

Originally Posted by Matt @ FSP

My head hurts after talking to Jamie too much today...

PQ if you need any info man just give me a quick PM

Ok.

[10aSSee D]

As far as compression goes my 417 is 9.5:1 and have good results with it. I run nothing but 93 pump gas and no meth so it's more of a safety factor for me being mainly a street car. I know a lot of people like more compression but ADM told me 9.5:1 so I said ok, no problems here.

[f5journal]

Originally Posted by PQ

I did not consider the cam specs.

Grrrrrrrrr...........................

Posted that in COTW....just found this thread again

I'm thinking you might be disappointed with the cam and not have quite the power you did have. Thats fine and dandy as long as you know up front

[PQ]

Originally Posted by 10aSSee D

As far as compression goes my 417 is 9.5:1 and have good results with it. I run nothing but 93 pump gas and no meth so it's more of a safety factor for me being mainly a street car. I know a lot of people like more compression but ADM told me 9.5:1 so I said ok, no problems here.

Your blower has more volume though. That's my biggest fear. Can my 2.3 keep up without heat issues.

Plus that extra .5.1 squeeze is going to help you too.

Of course if you can do that with a 417 then the less volume of a 376 would make up for much of that on mine.

Originally Posted by f5journal

Posted that in COTW....just found this thread again

I'm thinking you might be disappointed with the cam and not have quite the power you did have. Thats fine and dandy as long as you know up front

I could end up with more if my blower can keep up and even more if I can get the boost to 13 and 14 psi being forged. That's my only thing. I'd certainly have less NA. But I dont' know if the Maggie can keep up.

You are right though. Not knowing what cam it has kind of puts a damper on it. It would be easy enough to do a cam swap as it sits on my engine stand. But that would defeat two of the purposes of the crate motor. 1, plug and play and 2, saving money.

[f5journal]

I found the specs...not sure what they really mean as I don't know what stock is...seems more than stock LS3 though

Camshaft - 204/211 Duration .551”/.522 Lift Hyd Roller

[PQ]

Originally Posted by f5journal

I found the specs...not sure what they really mean as I don't know what stock is...seems more than stock LS3 though

Camshaft - 204/211 Duration .551”/.522 Lift Hyd Roller

Nope. That is a stock cam.