Solo hfc or Mace Ported IM

[lscamaro]

Originally Posted by Apex Chase

Long tube headers are only about a 2 hour install. It should be more like a $175-250 install. Between the two, Solo high flow cats will give you much greater gains.

There is no way it's a 2 hour install on the v6. The v8 yes easily. The v6 no. It might take you 2 hours to do just the passenger side on the v6, if you're lucky.

Originally Posted by Mvp_Me

This is why i dont have them yet. im not trying to give them a bad name but to me they made the price so high because no one else has them on the market. but since my local shops are acting like they have never touched headers before i was left with this option. im going to pull the trigger and get them next month. after i saw those vidz i was ok with the exhaust note. i just remembered one shop i haven't checked yet so ill talk to them this week. my plan is to go S/C or do a custom front mount single turbo build by the end of this year. when i talk to the shop if the turbo build is a go ill hold off on the hfc because i might not use them with the turbo build. the one thing that sucks with a turbo build is that i have to wait for HPT so i can do some real tuning. UUGHH too many choices!

also if i do go with the HFC's ill make some real vidz, those were way too short but it was just enough for me to make up my mine because the vidz with the solo catback i dont like.

If you're even considering some form of a turbo build, I'd wait a bit. Because if you go turbo, the cats might be a waste of money. I have long tubes ready to install but I'm waiting for hp tuners so that I can 1. get a real tune with them, and 2. see what options I have for a turbo now that local shop can build the car since they have a real tuning suite. But I've got all the time in the world so I can wait for hptuners

[pgustavson]

Originally Posted by Mvp_Me

SOLO hfc's will yield more power than longtubes? I thought it was the other way around?

I believe it has been said that the gains from long tubes are likely due predominately to the HFCs used with them or the elimination of cats altogether. There is a thread on here where the Solo HFCs yielded something around 15hp; which is on par with the reported gains from LTs on LLTs, I believe.

[Mvp_Me]

Originally Posted by lscamaro

There is no way it's a 2 hour install on the v6. The v8 yes easily. The v6 no. It might take you 2 hours to do just the passenger side on the v6, if you're lucky.



If you're even considering some form of a turbo build, I'd wait a bit. Because if you go turbo, the cats might be a waste of money. I have long tubes ready to install but I'm waiting for hp tuners so that I can 1. get a real tune with them, and 2. see what options I have for a turbo now that local shop can build the car since they have a real tuning suite. But I've got all the time in the world so I can wait for hptuners

yea thats why im going to talk to the shop to see if they are willing to do the turbo build, i surly dont want to waste $700. i have trifecta but all this talk on how bad they are wants me to switch to HPT ASAP. i have a friend that can get me a free dyno pull or two, i want to check the afr on this tune because i drive her pretty had at times and i dont want my baby to go BOOM

[Mvp_Me]

Originally Posted by pgustavson

I believe it has been said that the gains from long tubes are likely due predominately to the HFCs used with them or the elimination of cats altogether. There is a thread on here where the Solo HFCs yielded something around 15hp; which is on par with the reported gains from LTs on LLTs, I believe.

[KMPrenger]

Actually, if you are considering any form of forced induction, you may want to forget about doing the HFCs. Not that the SOLOs are bad quality (I believe they are good quality) there have been some V6 owners here running FI and have shown signs of their cats collapsing, which if that's gets too bad can cause serious damage to your engine.

My opinion, but I think if I were to go with forced induction, I'd either stay with stock cats, delete the cats, or go with catless headers.

At least talk with SOLO about it, or start a thread in the FI section about FI with SOLO cats. There may already be a thread hidden in there somewhere as I know the topic has come up before.

[Mvp_Me]

Originally Posted by KMPrenger

Actually, if you are considering any form of forced induction, you may want to forget about doing the HFCs. Not that the SOLOs are bad quality (I believe they are good quality) there have been some V6 owners here running FI and have shown signs of their cats collapsing, which if that's gets too bad can cause serious damage to your engine.

My opinion, but I think if I were to go with forced induction, I'd either stay with stock cats, delete the cats, or go with catless headers.

At least talk with SOLO about it, or start a thread in the FI section about FI with SOLO cats. There may already be a thread hidden in there somewhere as I know the topic has come up before.

I will do that, thanks for the heads up i might have time to pass by the shop tomorrow and ill see what they say. if they make a big deal, hfc's if not, turbo by the end of the year.
its funny though; if i get the hfc's it'll probably yield more power than my trifecta tune

[bionick]

Originally Posted by Mvp_Me

For my tax return treat i would like to do one of these mods. what i would like to know from peoples personal experience is which one would yield more power?
the only thing that i am worried about for the hfc is that i already have a magnaflow catback and it sounds perfect and i am a little worried that the hfc will bring out the rasp or just obnoxious exhaust note on my setup. As for the IM i already have a isolator and ported TB so adding the ported IM would complete that setup. from others personal experience which would be better to go with.
Before you say why dont i get bbk headers for the same price for the hfc, i decided this is the best way because the hfc is a "simple" bolt-on part. shops are telling me $500-600 to install headers.....no thanks.

if you have any sound clips feel free to post the link please.

This is horrible.. I did to have anything required for the install of my high flow cats and I paid like 150$. I felt like 150 was even too much since it was just bolt on, but 5-600 is completely a rip

[bionick]

Originally Posted by KMPrenger

Actually, if you are considering any form of forced induction, you may want to forget about doing the HFCs. Not that the SOLOs are bad quality (I believe they are good quality) there have been some V6 owners here running FI and have shown signs of their cats collapsing, which if that's gets too bad can cause serious damage to your engine.

My opinion, but I think if I were to go with forced induction, I'd either stay with stock cats, delete the cats, or go with catless headers.

At least talk with SOLO about it, or start a thread in the FI section about FI with SOLO cats. There may already be a thread hidden in there somewhere as I know the topic has come up before.

This is true. IPF told me they recommend using factory cats with their SC'er

[Mvp_Me]

Originally Posted by bionick

This is true. IPF told me they recommend using factory cats with their SC'er

Or just go catless. No muffler shop in my area wants to do it though

[rtcat600man]

Originally Posted by Mvp_Me

Or just go catless. No muffler shop in my area wants to do it though

Of course they don't, it is illegal for them to remove them for you.

Add a set of OBX headers, do it your self and you wll be catless.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...&highlight=obx

[kuzman89]

Originally Posted by KMPrenger

Actually, if you are considering any form of forced induction, you may want to forget about doing the HFCs.

This makes absolutely no sense to me. A good quality set of METAL core catalytic cat converters should not be collapsing. Full stop.

[Mvp_Me]

Originally Posted by rtcat600man

Of course they don't, it is illegal for them to remove them for you.

Add a set of OBX headers, do it your self and you wll be catless.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...&highlight=obx

this setup sound very nice, no rasp with the long tubes is a miracle

[rtcat600man]

Originally Posted by Mvp_Me

this setup sound very nice, no rasp with the long tubes is a miracle

Thank - you, I have had many a compliments from all walks of life about how good a V6 can sound with the right set-up.