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Denis · 02-20-2014, 02:41 PM

got me a shiny new carbon fiber piece in the mail (hopefully) as we speak...and i havent seen anyone one with it on here yet....could be wrong though. stay tuned....

The Stig · 02-20-2014, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Denis

goe me a shiny new carbon fiber piece in the mail (hopefully) as we speak...and i havent seen anyone one with it on here yet....could be wrong though. stay tuned....

What is it?

Rideskinz · 02-20-2014, 06:49 PM

Just a FYI for you guys who want to know more about carbon fiber parts...

Basically there are three different types of resins (or clear glues) that can be used when producing carbon fiber parts. Having worked a lot with composites (carbon fiber/fiberglass/kevlar) in the past, I can tell you the best carbon fiber/epoxy resin parts are made for Formula One racing.

Here are the differences in the three different types of resin:

Epoxy resin is extremely flexible. The flexibility allows a carbon fiber product to absorb a high level of impact force without breaking. Epoxy resin does not spider-crack. When epoxy reaches its maximum bending potential, it will form only a single crack at the stress point. Epoxy resin has a transparent finish that allows the deep, black 3D appearance of the carbon fiber to show through. Epoxy resin does not shrink and is 100% UV resistant.

Polyester resin is what a lot of aftermarket companies use because of the low cost. Polyester has a blueish finish instead of a clear finish, is inflexible and will spider-crack at the mere thought of bending. Excessive amounts of polyester resin need to be used during the molding process. This adds considerable weight to the product and defeats the purpose of purchasing lightweight carbon fiber. Polyester resin will shrink over time and alter the shape of the final product, resulting in installation headaches and additional modifications for fit. Polyester resin is not UV resistant and will turn yellow over time.

Vinyl-ester resins are midway between polyesters and epoxy resins. Vinyl-esters are more tolerant of stretching than polyesters. This makes them more able to absorb impact without damage. They are also less likely to show stress cracking. Vinyl-esters are less sensitive to ambient conditions (temperature and humidity) than are polyesters.

SSTG · 02-20-2014, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Rideskinz

Just a FYI for you guys who want to know more about carbon fiber parts...

Basically there are three different types of resins (or clear glues) that can be used when producing carbon fiber parts. Having worked a lot with composites (carbon fiber/fiberglass/kevlar) in the past, I can tell you the best carbon fiber/epoxy resin parts are made for Formula One racing.

Here are the differences in the three different types of resin:

Epoxy resin is extremely flexible. The flexibility allows a carbon fiber product to absorb a high level of impact force without breaking. Epoxy resin does not spider-crack. When epoxy reaches its maximum bending potential, it will form only a single crack at the stress point. Epoxy resin has a transparent finish that allows the deep, black 3D appearance of the carbon fiber to show through. Epoxy resin does not shrink and is 100% UV resistant.

Polyester resin is what a lot of aftermarket companies use because of the low cost. Polyester has a blueish finish instead of a clear finish, is inflexible and will spider-crack at the mere thought of bending. Excessive amounts of polyester resin need to be used during the molding process. This adds considerable weight to the product and defeats the purpose of purchasing lightweight carbon fiber. Polyester resin will shrink over time and alter the shape of the final product, resulting in installation headaches and additional modifications for fit. Polyester resin is not UV resistant and will turn yellow over time.

Vinyl-ester resins are midway between polyesters and epoxy resins. Vinyl-esters are more tolerant of stretching than polyesters. This makes them more able to absorb impact without damage. They are also less likely to show stress cracking. Vinyl-esters are less sensitive to ambient conditions (temperature and humidity) than are polyesters.

Good info.

Denis · 02-20-2014, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by The Stig

What is it?

I'll let you guys know when I get it. Don't wanna go getting excited about it before I even receive it.

chevy 3 · 02-20-2014, 07:45 PM

I kinda like cf a little.
Just have to get the decals off the hood and I'm good

SS Joey · 02-21-2014, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by HawkGirl

Sexy, and a decent amount of HP!

Where did u get the carbon fiber front bowtie? I am looking to get all cf emblems, (back SS, front bowtie and possibly back bowtie but I have LED back bowtie from aac so not sure if I can do that)...but where can I go to get all carbon fiber exterior and interior pieces to match my hood?

Denis · 02-21-2014, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SS Joey

Where did u get the carbon fiber front bowtie? I am looking to get all cf emblems, (back SS, front bowtie and possibly back bowtie but I have LED back bowtie from aac so not sure if I can do that)...but where can I go to get all carbon fiber exterior and interior pieces to match my hood?

http://www.rpidesigns.com/shop/item.aspx?itemid=2018

Rickeyp21 · 02-21-2014, 02:23 PM

Personally, I think CF looks great on a Camaro, as long as it's the right color. CF needs to kind of pop out, or to me it looks like you replaced a stock part and didn't bother painting it. If I had a red, blue, or car, I'd want the CF hood, trunk, and splitter in CF.

My SS is black with IOM stripes and interior, so I don't think CF will look good with the exterior black. Now the interior though...I'm looking for trim kits right now lol. I think it looks sweet inside with the IOM.

mbrusco103 · 02-28-2014, 12:39 PM

Considering how many high end cars are being built with carbon fiber i think its safe to say theres nothing cheap about it. I dont like the hydro dipped carbon fiber that looks fake and ive seen that and the vinyl wraps on some "rice" cars. But real carbon fiber looks great i get more compliments on my cf hood and spoiler than anything else ive done so far.

Diode Dynamics · 02-28-2014, 12:43 PM

Your car looks pretty sweet to me!

I'd say CF is awesome on almost anything, as long as it's real

Nick C.

Denis · 02-28-2014, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Diode Dynamics

Your car looks pretty sweet to me!

I'd say CF is awesome on almost anything, as long as it's real

Nick C.

02-20-2014, 02:41 PM	#43
Denis Drives: 2010 SS Join Date: May 2012 Location: Yorktown Heights, NY Posts: 7,695 View My Garage	got me a shiny new carbon fiber piece in the mail (hopefully) as we speak...and i havent seen anyone one with it on here yet....could be wrong though. stay tuned.... __________________ Last edited by Denis; 02-20-2014 at 07:29 PM.

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mbrusco103 Drives: 2011 2SS/RS (M6) 427 Twin Turbo Join Date: May 2008 Location: NJ Posts: 1,090 View My Garage	Considering how many high end cars are being built with carbon fiber i think its safe to say theres nothing cheap about it. I dont like the hydro dipped carbon fiber that looks fake and ive seen that and the vinyl wraps on some "rice" cars. But real carbon fiber looks great i get more compliments on my cf hood and spoiler than anything else ive done so far. __________________ 2011 Camaro 2SS/RS ERL 427 M6 TT -AGP Twin Turbo 55/57 .83ar \| ERL 427ci \| Squash Fuel System \| Stainless Works Chambered 3" \| Mcleod RXT \| Factory Hurst Short Throw \| Black Forgestar F14s \| CTS V 6 Piston Brembo \| VIS AMS Carbon Fiber Hood \| Anvil Carbon Fiber Spoiler

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Diode Dynamics Drives: Camaro Lighting Experts Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 2,429	Your car looks pretty sweet to me! I'd say CF is awesome on almost anything, as long as it's real Nick C. __________________ John C. Diode Dynamics Follow Us: FB // IG // YT // TikTok

02-20-2014, 06:49 PM	#45
Rideskinz Drives: SS, ZL1, V6 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: So Cal Posts: 836	Just a FYI for you guys who want to know more about carbon fiber parts... Basically there are three different types of resins (or clear glues) that can be used when producing carbon fiber parts. Having worked a lot with composites (carbon fiber/fiberglass/kevlar) in the past, I can tell you the best carbon fiber/epoxy resin parts are made for Formula One racing. Here are the differences in the three different types of resin: Epoxy resin is extremely flexible. The flexibility allows a carbon fiber product to absorb a high level of impact force without breaking. Epoxy resin does not spider-crack. When epoxy reaches its maximum bending potential, it will form only a single crack at the stress point. Epoxy resin has a transparent finish that allows the deep, black 3D appearance of the carbon fiber to show through. Epoxy resin does not shrink and is 100% UV resistant. Polyester resin is what a lot of aftermarket companies use because of the low cost. Polyester has a blueish finish instead of a clear finish, is inflexible and will spider-crack at the mere thought of bending. Excessive amounts of polyester resin need to be used during the molding process. This adds considerable weight to the product and defeats the purpose of purchasing lightweight carbon fiber. Polyester resin will shrink over time and alter the shape of the final product, resulting in installation headaches and additional modifications for fit. Polyester resin is not UV resistant and will turn yellow over time. Vinyl-ester resins are midway between polyesters and epoxy resins. Vinyl-esters are more tolerant of stretching than polyesters. This makes them more able to absorb impact without damage. They are also less likely to show stress cracking. Vinyl-esters are less sensitive to ambient conditions (temperature and humidity) than are polyesters.

02-21-2014, 02:23 PM	#51
Rickeyp21 Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: May 2012 Location: Longview Posts: 10	Personally, I think CF looks great on a Camaro, as long as it's the right color. CF needs to kind of pop out, or to me it looks like you replaced a stock part and didn't bother painting it. If I had a red, blue, or car, I'd want the CF hood, trunk, and splitter in CF. My SS is black with IOM stripes and interior, so I don't think CF will look good with the exterior black. Now the interior though...I'm looking for trim kits right now lol. I think it looks sweet inside with the IOM.