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Angrybird 12 · 02-04-2014, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by KILLA BEE

Well normally yes. BUT I know how my car sounds in first. it wasnt first I can only hit 30 ,35 before i have to shif in 2nd. ......it stayed in third from stop and was still pulling hard as hell at 50 with eaeseeee..im just saying mine must not be the norm

Just saying you cannot put it in third when stopped with the normal tap shift, it won't even let you select third gear. Can you also select 4 or 5 when stopped? If you can you do not have the normal tap shift.

KILLA BEE · 02-05-2014, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Angrybird 12

If yours indicated it was in 3rd while you were stopped then yours is not the normal tap shift, you just selected the top gear it would shift to, it still started out in first. It would have been very sluggish if it had started out in 3rd.

But the again I see what your saying now. Shit I don't know as long as I can dyno it. If its gonna be a waste of money then I ma just do a trifecta tune.

Rabbitlfx · 02-06-2014, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by 911medic

I just happened to have an appointment this morning to get my bubbling leather dash panel replaced at a local dealer, and while there checked this out.

There is indeed a difference in the lower grille on the 2LS. In the pictures that follow, there is a gray 2LS parked next to a black LT. The lower grille on the 2LS has plastic that narrows to much smaller slits/openings instead of the gaping holes on the LT.

Learn something new every day! Thanks, RallySportRand! This info will be added to the OP, even though it's only a minor difference.

I would think that if the grills on the 2ls improved aerodynamics all the cars would have got them. My guess is the change is ti force air to the transmission cooler on the automatics. If the makes a noticeable differance in aerodynamics I think this would be my first mod. Just thinking out loud here.

911medic · 02-07-2014, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Rabbitlfx

I would think that if the grills on the 2ls improved aerodynamics all the cars would have got them. My guess is the change is ti force air to the transmission cooler on the automatics. If the makes a noticeable differance in aerodynamics I think this would be my first mod. Just thinking out loud here.

First, welcome to the forum!

I see what you're saying, but if that were the case, then the LT automatics would have this lower grille difference as well, but they do not (I have one). ONLY the 2LS has it.

Any guesses (including mine) as to reason for the grille's difference in the 2LS are definitely just that: guesses, since we have no official word as to why. However, seeing the other changes Chevy made to this particular model to boost the fuel economy number, I think aerodynamics make some sense.

Besides, look closely at the openings in the black LT's lower grille. They're huge. It's difficult to see, but the 2LS lower grille has only narrow slits. If anything, there's less air getting through there.

BlackoutLFX · 02-07-2014, 10:07 AM

I never noticed the lower grill. I like the lt better...as far as TUTD and ERS differences...I found a way to add sport and manual mode to the 2ls using hp tuners

911medic · 02-07-2014, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackoutLFX

I never noticed the lower grill. I like the lt better...as far as TUTD and ERS differences...I found a way to add sport and manual mode to the 2ls using hp tuners

I will follow your other thread about this, and definitely add the info to this thread once all the questions that are being asked shake out.

Gimc323 · 02-09-2014, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 911medic

Yes, thank you. Someone else pointed it out, and the first post has been corrected.

Hey guys I went out and tried the M mode on my 2013 2ls.
I put the car in M and with the up shift i selected M6. And went for a ride. The car felt so much more responsive than before. It also had a faster take off and faster gear changes. By selecting M6 means that the car will automatically change the gears, but at a higher rpm depending how you're driving. Even though it doesn't show an S on the DIC the car is still has a sporty feel to it compared to driving in D. The car downshifts and up shifts so there is no risk of damaging the engine. I reccomend all 2ls owners to try it. You guys will notice the difference

KILLA BEE · 02-10-2014, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Gimc323

Hey guys I went out and tried the M mode on my 2013 2ls.
I put the car in M and with the up shift i selected M6. And went for a ride. The car felt so much more responsive than before. It also had a faster take off and faster gear changes. By selecting M6 means that the car will automatically change the gears, but at a higher rpm depending how you're driving. Even though it doesn't show an S on the DIC the car is still has a sporty feel to it compared to driving in D. The car downshifts and up shifts so there is no risk of damaging the engine. I reccomend all 2ls owners to try it. You guys will notice the difference

Tried it coming home...DAMN YOUR RIGHT. .

BlackoutLFX · 02-10-2014, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by KILLA BEE

Tried it coming home...DAMN YOUR RIGHT. .

it's because m has different shift pressures, shift times, and shift speeds.

2LS14 · 02-17-2014, 03:30 AM

I originally preferred the 2013 model over the 2014 model, but the dealer didn't have anymore 2013 models at the time. Rather than spending money on new rims, halo lights, sunroof, a tune, and new gears I can just trade in for the 2013 RS.

DSX_Camaro · 02-17-2014, 11:56 AM

Just food for thought... in an automatic V6 with tapshit, you have the ability to start in first or second. Second gear gives a bit of a "lugging" feel, naturally, since it's a higher gear than first. Is it possible that using the "manual mode" feature of a 2LS, when starting from a stop with any gear other than first selected, it actually starts in second, which, when compared to a V6 with the 3.27 gears, would feel like it's rather bogged down?

RayZ28 · 02-23-2014, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by RacnJsn95

Try this... "shift" into 3rd gear from a stop... Drive until your car shifts up into 3rd doing appx. 40mph... Now floor it, it will down shift to first and accelerate hard... If it doesn't and seems like it accelerates slowly, you have some freak of nature...

The dyno graph above was actually started in third gear, upon flooring the go pedal for the dyno run, the car down shifted to first, and then shifted to 2nd, then 3rd gear and run until it finally hit the speed limiter @ ~118 IIRC, I never even hit max rpm at the end of the run. I even tried to SLOWLY roll onto the throttle to keep it from downshifting into first, but it will still do it.

I took mine to dyno yesterday.. They started out wanting to run in 4th which all others were running as well (couple other v6's were LTs so of course they had normal dyno runs) ..the same thing happened once it got to 4th it downshifted and killed the run at about 4300 RPM but dyno was set to top out at 5500.. Never made it to 5500.. And never hit the ~118 MPH it was usually 97-99 MPH it stopped at.. They tried 3rd gear runs as well and same downshifting problem and it also threw off the numbers on the dyno so much so that they had to try random gear ratios to align the tach on the car to the tach readings on the dyno.. Sucks to know can't get a true dyno run with accurate numbers.. :(

KILLA BEE · 02-23-2014, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by RayZ28

I took mine to dyno yesterday.. They started out wanting to run in 4th which all others were running as well (couple other v6's were LTs so of course they had normal dyno runs) ..the same thing happened once it got to 4th it downshifted and killed the run at about 4300 RPM but dyno was set to top out at 5500.. Never made it to 5500.. And never hit the ~118 MPH it was usually 97-99 MPH it stopped at.. They tried 3rd gear runs as well and same downshifting problem and it also threw off the numbers on the dyno so much so that they had to try random gear ratios to align the tach on the car to the tach readings on the dyno.. Sucks to know can't get a true dyno run with accurate numbers.. :(

You should have IF you used HPT, had the tune shop match your settings to an LT model which it does allow you to do,and by doing so you would have sport and manual mode like the LT and SS models, Getting mine done wednesday I will let you know how it goes. But definetly read the thread on this its very informative and even has a pic tutorial

Jason@JacFab · 02-23-2014, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DSX_Camaro

Just food for thought... in an automatic V6 with tapshit, you have the ability to start in first or second. Second gear gives a bit of a "lugging" feel, naturally, since it's a higher gear than first. Is it possible that using the "manual mode" feature of a 2LS, when starting from a stop with any gear other than first selected, it actually starts in second, which, when compared to a V6 with the 3.27 gears, would feel like it's rather bogged down?

Still starts in first gear.

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Originally Posted by KILLA BEE

You should have IF you used HPT, had the tune shop match your settings to an LT model which it does allow you to do,and by doing so you would have sport and manual mode like the LT and SS models, Getting mine done wednesday I will let you know how it goes. But definetly read the thread on this its very informative and even has a pic tutorial

Some people don't want to void their warranty by tuning.

02-07-2014, 10:07 AM	#117
BlackoutLFX Drives: 2012, Black 2LS Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Florida Posts: 490 View My Garage	I never noticed the lower grill. I like the lt better...as far as TUTD and ERS differences...I found a way to add sport and manual mode to the 2ls using hp tuners __________________ Nytrex 100 hp nitrous triple threat system, NytrexAccu-pressure bottle heater, HP tuners, K&N Typhoon CAI, MACE 6mm MI, Solo Performance high flow cats, Flowmaster American Thunder cat back exhaust system, BMR subframe connectors, BMR tunnel brace, BMR lowering springs, BMR Xtreme Anti-roll bar rear, Hotchkins Strut brace, SS/LS3 3.45 LSD, Axles, and hubs, Elite Engineering catch can, B&M Supercooler transmission cooler, FTI 3200 Stall.

02-17-2014, 11:56 AM	#123
DSX_Camaro Drives: 2013 SW 2LT/RS LFX/AY6 Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 1,741	Just food for thought... in an automatic V6 with tapshit, you have the ability to start in first or second. Second gear gives a bit of a "lugging" feel, naturally, since it's a higher gear than first. Is it possible that using the "manual mode" feature of a 2LS, when starting from a stop with any gear other than first selected, it actually starts in second, which, when compared to a V6 with the 3.27 gears, would feel like it's rather bogged down? __________________ K&N CAI, 1LE Strut Tower Brace, Elite Engineering Catch Can and Clean Side Separator, Apex Scoop w/ Washer Relocation Kit, CTS Front Calipers and Rotors, JacFab Ported Intake Manifold, JacFab Intake Manifold Spacer, 80mm Overkill Throttle Body, SS Brake Lines, Ideal Garage Master Cylinder, Monster Twin Disc Clutch, NPP Retrofit w/ Magnaflow Resonated X, ARH Catless Downpipes, JRE Built 3.45 Diff, 1LE Axles, 1LE Hubs, Overkill Tuned, BMR Anti Wheel-hop Kit Stage I, ACS TL1 Hood Insert, ZL1 Spoiler

02-17-2014, 03:30 AM	#122
2LS14 Drives: 2014 2LS Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: ATL Posts: 134	I originally preferred the 2013 model over the 2014 model, but the dealer didn't have anymore 2013 models at the time. Rather than spending money on new rims, halo lights, sunroof, a tune, and new gears I can just trade in for the 2013 RS.