zl1 or 1le

[X25]

Originally Posted by SSRS55

Well let me give you the real short answer ..
Because for 35k plus the 15k ish I have in my 2ss 1LE, so 50k. About 6 - 8 k cheaper then The ZL1 I have something that's better in every way then a stock ZL1 for 7K less. Stronger parts you say, lol , I bet ya mine lasts just as long as yours!!

Oh and I 100 percent wasn't trying to make my car a ZL1 , all that would of taken is a Cam.

With all that said I do love the ZL1!!



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I respectfully disagree. ZL1 has upgraded driveline parts, including a virtually indestructible and expensive rear diff to take all the punishment and a very advanced magnetic suspension. The engine is also built for the FI in mind, and is stronger at wherever it needs. I'd actually pay *less* than what I'd pay for a stock car, if I see a heavily modified 1LE with major power mods.

Personally, I'd go with the 1LE. It is a great performer at a reasonable price. For the price you'd pay for the ZL1, I'd much rather get a C7 Z51.

[Front Runner]

Originally Posted by SSRS55

Well let me give you the real short answer ..
Because for 35k plus the 15k ish I have in my 2ss 1LE, so 50k. About 6 - 8 k cheaper then The ZL1 I have something that's better in every way then a stock ZL1 for 7K less. Stronger parts you say, lol , I bet ya mine lasts just as long as yours!!

Sounds like you've built a real beast. Cool.

I differ with some of your statements though. You purchased your SS/1LE at a good price (35k+) so I would assume its decently (not fully) optioned, most (if not all) ZL1's are loaded with every option available expect the sunroof. You've spent 15K+ in mods so now your car can perform on the same level (if not slightly better) than a stock ZL1. So you have 50K+ in your car which in many cases is not 6-8K cheaper than a ZL1. I purchased mine for 53K OTD and it's a fully loaded coupe with sunroof. So, you've got me by 3K.

3K isn't much difference when taking about this kind of money but my car is:
1. completely stock
2. worth more in value
3. performs just as well/better
4. has a very, very comfortable ride IMO (mag suspension)
5. still has a full warranty
6. I'm sure there others but too lazy to keep list going

So, to say "The ZL1 (I assume you meant 1LE) I have something that's better in every way then a stock ZL1 for 7K less." is truly a matter of your personal opinion which I respectfully disagree with.

IMO, what you have is a good performing car that you've heavily modified to make it a better performer that's worth even less to the market now.

Pretty sure your ride is awesome in it's own right, so this is not an attack on you or your ride.

Originally Posted by X25

I respectfully disagree. ZL1 has upgraded driveline parts, including a virtually indestructible and expensive rear diff to take all the punishment and a very advanced magnetic suspension. The engine is also built for the FI in mind, and is stronger at wherever it needs. I'd actually pay *less* than what I'd pay for a stock car, if I see a heavily modified 1LE with major power mods.

Personally, I'd go with the 1LE. It is a great performer at a reasonable price. For the price you'd pay for the ZL1, I'd much rather get a C7 Z51.

I agree with all said about the ZL1 & that the SS/1LE is a great performer at a reasonable price.

The C7 Z51 is an awesome car also for those who can comfortably fit in them. Unfortunately, I'm not one who can.

Originally Posted by 1LEMayhem

The problem with trying to convert a regular SS to a 1LE is some of the changes are in the software, like abs, yaw sensor, fuel pump control and then you would have to change the transmission gears. So you could never really make a complete 1LE out of an SS.

Since the 1LE is a performance package on a SS, why not? Just wondering.

Originally Posted by Todd in Vancouver

Can someone tell me how much changes from an SS to make it a 1LE?

I know the ZL is approx. 30% different from an SS and has a number of driveline upgrades but is seems to me if you are going to buy a 1LE and mod it to get more like a ZL then as already stated just get the ZL to begin with.

I thought I read where the GM guy on the forum stated 40% parts difference from the SS, little less on the SS/1LE since some ZL1 parts have been put on it also.



All said, as stated before, the OP can't go wrong with either car. I like'em both. Just a matter of personal preference.


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[NJ Drive]

I think people really need to look at what checking the 1LE box does to a standard SS. It's a HUGE list, and the least of it is wheels and shocks. Bar none, the best damn bargain performance car on the market right now IMO.

I personally feel like it's a gift from Chevy trying to make up for years of suck.

[StoutSnout]

Originally Posted by X25

I respectfully disagree. ZL1 has upgraded driveline parts, including a virtually indestructible and expensive rear diff to take all the punishment and a very advanced magnetic suspension. The engine is also built for the FI in mind, and is stronger at wherever it needs. I'd actually pay *less* than what I'd pay for a stock car, if I see a heavily modified 1LE with major power mods.

Personally, I'd go with the 1LE. It is a great performer at a reasonable price. For the price you'd pay for the ZL1, I'd much rather get a C7 Z51.

+1 Without the driveline, mag ride, and PTM, I can't see how it is better in every way.

[CRTZL1]

Originally Posted by StoutSnout

+1 Without the driveline, mag ride, and PTM, I can't see how it is better in every way.

Not going to start a huge debate because this topic is beat so hard to death in multiple threads and there is many posts with actual fact to support my claims. The ZL1 guys will always think there stock Zl1 is better versus the modified 1LE, they need to justify there purchase and that makes them feel all warm and squishy inside.
The fact of the matter is, for example, will take my car...
Quarter mile = My car
0-60 = My car
Around any track = My car (no real hard data but come on, obviously)

Those are the things I care about not Prestige by saying I have A ZL1.

You say suspension, actually the ZL1 suspension is not better then the 1Le stock for stock. The only thing that mag ride is good for is to give you that caddy feel when your driving and I purchased a muscle car not a Cadillac. Believe me when I tell ya, The 1Le is a track KING and is way better balanced. Thee ONLY thing getting that ZL1 around any track faster then a stock 1LE is it's added power. That goes for it's quarter mile times against a stock 1le as well. (which really are not far off of either anyways)...

Fast forward to my car, Better blower, even better suspension then the stock 1LE...AND ALL THE AMENTIES INSIDE THE CABIN (That's right FrontRunner, FULLY LOADED)( except sunroof, which I could care less about ). So I ask you how could my car not be better? Simple answer... It is in every way except maybe not having the ZL1 rockers ( I did add those tough )

Funny story before I modded my car so heavily I was tossing the idea around of trading in for the ZL1 and I actually found one at a decent price and very low mileage. It was a 2013 with 3k miles on it and it had the more expensive optioned 5 spoke wheels on it ( I couldn't believe those were more money then the black Zl1 wheels by the way),,and I showed my wife the car and she was like why would you down grade to that car, I laughed and said actually it's suppose to be and upgrade, she said ewww gross, your car is ten times better looking.

Now the ZL1 guys will chime in a million times stating why there cars are so much better with some bull shit like are mag ride or our LSA motor and if that makes them feel better then so be it, but at thee end of the day I bet you not one Stock ZL1 wants to race for Pink slips.

Now the 6th gen ZL1 as long as they don't make it Fugly like the new mustang will be the one to have. That may be a different story......

Again not wanting to start yet another debate, because frankly I have better things to do, so ZL1 guys go nuts....

[CRTZL1]

Originally Posted by X25

I respectfully disagree. ZL1 has upgraded driveline parts, including a virtually indestructible and expensive rear diff to take all the punishment and a very advanced magnetic suspension. The engine is also built for the FI in mind, and is stronger at wherever it needs. I'd actually pay *less* than what I'd pay for a stock car, if I see a heavily modified 1LE with major power mods.

Personally, I'd go with the 1LE. It is a great performer at a reasonable price. For the price you'd pay for the ZL1, I'd much rather get a C7 Z51.

Originally Posted by Front Runner

Sounds like you've built a real beast. Cool.

I differ with some of your statements though. You purchased your SS/1LE at a good price (35k+) so I would assume its decently (not fully) optioned, most (if not all) ZL1's are loaded with every option available expect the sunroof. You've spent 15K+ in mods so now your car can perform on the same level (if not slightly better) than a stock ZL1. So you have 50K+ in your car which in many cases is not 6-8K cheaper than a ZL1. I purchased mine for 53K OTD and it's a fully loaded coupe with sunroof. So, you've got me by 3K.

3K isn't much difference when taking about this kind of money but my car is:
1. completely stock
2. worth more in value
3. performs just as well/better
4. has a very, very comfortable ride IMO (mag suspension)
5. still has a full warranty
6. I'm sure there others but too lazy to keep list going

So, to say "The ZL1 (I assume you meant 1LE) I have something that's better in every way then a stock ZL1 for 7K less." is truly a matter of your personal opinion which I respectfully disagree with.

IMO, what you have is a good performing car that you've heavily modified to make it a better performer that's worth even less to the market now.

Pretty sure your ride is awesome in it's own right, so this is not an attack on you or your ride.



I agree with all said about the ZL1 & that the SS/1LE is a great performer at a reasonable price.

The C7 Z51 is an awesome car also for those who can comfortably fit in them. Unfortunately, I'm not one who can.



Since the 1LE is a performance package on a SS, why not? Just wondering.




I thought I read where the GM guy on the forum stated 40% parts difference from the SS, little less on the SS/1LE since some ZL1 parts have been put on it also.



All said, as stated before, the OP can't go wrong with either car. I like'em both. Just a matter of personal preference.


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[2cnd chance]

Originally Posted by SSRS55

Go back and read posts 40, 41 , and 47 and repeat as needed!

I see Pfadt listed. What have you done to the suspension? Thanks.

[cornerspeed92]

I dont want to start a new thread,so since it's a 1LE/ZL1 question this should work.Will a 2013 ZL1 rear spoiler fit our 2013 1LE?

[Blueclyde]

These threads always get out of control. The only way to compare cars in a meaningful relative manner is stock vs stock. Anything else doesn't count.

I personally feel the 1LE is the best value in the line and the restyled 14 is awesome looking. This is truly a great car for $3500 over the SS.

That said, stock vs stock the ZL1 is faster at every track they were ever compared at by considerable margin. That is the only way to look at it.

[1LE801]

As an owner of a 1LE , let me just say, anyone who says they would take a 1LE over a ZL1 is just helping themselves cope with the fact that they couldn't afford the ZL1. Myself included ;-)

ZL1 IS the mecca

[shawn18]

Originally Posted by 1LE801

As an owner of a 1LE , let me just say, anyone who says they would take a 1LE over a ZL1 is just helping themselves cope with the fact that they couldn't afford the ZL1. Myself included ;-)

ZL1 IS the mecca

Well this statement just isn't true... It may be for some but not all. I personally can afford a ZL1 with ease if I wanted one. I chose the 1LE for a number of reasons but mostly because of its incredible value plus it is naturally aspirated. I am just not a fan of forced induction or all of the fancy ride control...Not knocking the car at all..It is an awesome car and is faster than mine at every track and that is ok. I bought the exact car I wanted and wished everyone on this forum could/would do the same. That way the comparsion threads may....May diminish....A little.

[Blueclyde]

Originally Posted by shawn18

Well this statement just isn't true... It may be for some but not all. I personally can afford a ZL1 with ease if I wanted one. I chose the 1LE for a number of reasons but mostly because of its incredible value plus it is naturally aspirated. I am just not a fan of forced induction or all of the fancy ride control...Not knocking the car at all..It is an awesome car and is faster than mine at every track and that is ok. I bought the exact car I wanted and wished everyone on this forum could/would do the same. That way the comparsion threads may....May diminish....A little.

I agree with what you say here and believe many purchase the 1LE for the same correct reasons that you did.

[Front Runner]

Originally Posted by shawn18

I bought the exact car I wanted and wished everyone on this forum could/would do the same. That way the comparsion threads may....May diminish....A little.

Originally Posted by Blueclyde

I agree with what you say here and believe many purchase the 1LE for the same correct reasons that you did.

Well stated.

[Msmall143]

Originally Posted by WHAMMO

Just no tune ...

Good luck having a cammed car with no tune!